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[Metalmurphy]

Those red boxes aren't anywhere close to the same size.

They're also pretty irrelevant as we don't know they actually match the size of the disc.

 

[panty]

Seems accurate, good job.

There's the drive slot.

High-res http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/9011342661/

 

[PFD]

a software company lacking in hardware. what a surprise.

sony will always come out on top when its about this stuff.

MS has been making hardware for over a decade. What kind of excuse is this?

 

[dragonelite]

Doesn't GDDR5 use less power draw, therefore it can run cooler? Might be another reason they can make it so small.

B3D said it is hotter then ddr3.

So im impressed with sony if they dont have a ylod for ps4.
Because microsoft is having heating issues and a big box.

 

[Odrion]

I sure hope that I won't have problems fitting third party devices into those usb slots.

I don't know why I'd ever need to, but it sure is a pain when it happens with my PC.

 

[Orayn]

Nib, what feature did you use to make these scaled photos? If people are arguing about the disc drives, you should pick something like a USB port to be absolutely sure.

 

[synce]

Very impressive job by Sony with the design. We're back to 2001 where Xbox was hueg.

 

[Evil Beaver]

Xbox One must be so big because it is full of Don Mattrick's and Phil Harrison's bullshit, no other possible explanation.

....or all the TV/DVR components that are tacked on the Xbone is what made it so bulky.

 

[benny_a]

MS has been making hardware for over a decade. What kind of excuse is this?

We don't know how their profile is when running. One might run hotter and more louder. It's not just about the size.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Me gusta.

 

[LiK]

Just measure the actual disc slot and not the red boxes.

 

[Viruz]

Those red boxes aren't anywhere close to the same size.

Look again, don't just count the pixels on the red boxes, I did it quickly for comparison purpose. I'ts not pixel precise.

 

[Kazerei]

Now I understand why that image doesn't make sense to me. It's smaller in volumne and in width, but the PS4 is longer than wide.

Ahh, this is what I thought. The bottom half of this image shows the XBO is taller and wider. But the top half shows the PS4 is longer.

Basically the PS3/360/XBO/PS4 is as flattering to the PS4 as possible

 

[LeleSocho]

I've added the wiiu too using the width of the disc slot as a parameter of the scaling, it might not be perfect but it's not too distant from the truth



That's what Nintendo got for using the shamefully old 45nm production a console that technically is a gen behind for a size that's barely smaller than the most powerful one that crushes it power wise.

 

[Whiteshirt]

Just measure the actual disc slot and not the red boxes.

Basically this, come on guys if you have decent monitors you can see that both disk slots are functionally the same size.

 

[dubq]

I'm sorry what? Are we seeing the same pic? Cause the PS3 was bigger than Xbox 360

Bigger yes. Also more aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Crisco]

I mean, it was probably more a conscience decision for MS than anything else. They wanted a quiet, nondescript design that fit in with set top boxes from cable and satellite companies. They could have made it smaller, but why bother, their target audience isn't going to be putting it in their dorms/bedrooms.

 

[Deadstar]

The more I see it, the more I'm learning to like the Rhombus. :3

Should have called it the PlayStation Rhombus. PSR.

 

[dubq]

Basically this, come on guys if you have decent monitors you can see that both disk slots are functionally the same size.

It's okay. They're in denial.

 

[rakkadakka]

Behold, the physical manifestation of a company who lost millions (billions?) due to heat issues..

 

[scar tissue]

Hated the PS3 designs. Loved the Xbox 360 designs.
Funny how it's exactly the opposite now. PS4 is one of my all-time favorite console designs. Comparatively small and oh so slick.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

From the other views, it seems the PS4's length is more than its height, so the comparison image really puts the PS4 in the best light. But the PS4's planform area is still smaller than Xbone's, and it's not as wide.

As someone mentioned in another thread, it's a good idea to have it deeper than wide. On a shelf usually you have limited width space but extra deepness* space. The only thing you'd be competing with back there is cords or on a small skinny shelf it's probably best not to put a console on it, and you can just stand it up and turn it sideways probably (still wouldn't be as long as XB1). WiiU is deep too, maybe the Japan devs realize shorter but deep is just better for shelf space.

 

[i-Lo]

Even though the PS4 is longer, overall, it's far more aesthetically pleasing to eye for many here. It looks something out of the future (well it kind of is). And the Xbone in comparison looks as industrious as ever.

Had I never seen the PS4, the Xbone design would have grown on me.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I wonder if the size of the Xbox One is indicative of it being rushed. Like, they didn't have time to design it for a smaller case, said screw it, and just made it huge.

I had that thought as well. The Xbox One - on shape as well as seeing the innards - looks like a desktop PC. Not really a lot of engineering behind the form factor.

 

[Ace Harding]

If the scale is right that is pretty incredible. I would very much like to see the inside of that thing.

 

[Jotaka]

I always forget that House is a short fella. That's why people thinking the ps4 is bigger.

 

[Brashnir]

Look again, don't just count the pixels on the red boxes, I did it quickly for comparison purpose. I'ts not pixel precise.

Basically this, come on guys if you have decent monitors you can see that both disk slots are functionally the same size.

Just did the slots alone. It's still off by 12 or so pixels.

I wish these companies would just release the dimensions.

 

[Alebrije]

PS4 longer but it seems will include the POWER UNIT inside , and the XB ONE will have a brick.

PS4 seems a product that has been planed with the japanese minimalism touch.

 

[Maximus.]

It's amazing how its smaller, more powerful and has an internal psu compared to the Xbox one.

 

[Jotaka]

Just did the slots alone. It's still off by 12 or so pixels.

I wish these companies would just release the dimensions.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf

 

[DieH@rd]

SOMEBODY needs to take those 3D models of both consoles and create Oculus Rift virtual showroom.

 

[Fourth Storm]

B3D said it is hotter then ddr3.

So im impressed with sony if they dont have a ylod for ps4.
Because microsoft is having heating issues and a big box.

The RAM isn't going to make a huge difference. GDDR5 is a bit hotter, but we're talking a few watts.

 

[CaptNink]

Truly unbelievable -- what a marvelous design! Goddamn, I want this thing so bad!

 

[Avinexus]

I can't be the only one who doesn't care how big these things are. I'm just going to put them on a shelf and never think about them again no matter how big they are.

 

[KZObsessed]

Can't wait for the inevitable PS4 Slim.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

There's got to be a catch to the PS4 design. I mean, it's more powerful than the X1 and has an internal PSU, yet it's considerably smaller. I don't understand.

 

[Killah]

It's nice that its smaller than the Xbone but major concern right now is if it will be hot and will it be loud?

The PS3 fat was so loud when it started up and or whenever the fans kicked in. I'm hoping this isn't the case with the PS4.

 

[uncharted86]

If the scale is right that is pretty incredible. I would very much like to see the inside of that thing.

The scale is probably completely accurate because the volume difference is massive:

PS4 - 27.5x30.5x5.3cm = 4445 cm2

Xbox One - 34.3x26.3x8cm = 7217 cm2

Edit: woops, cubic of course.

 

[m.i.s.]

PS4 longer but it seems will include the POWER UNIT inside , and the XB ONE will have a brick.

PS4 seems a product that has been planed with the japanese minimalism touch.

Talking of Japan, I hope the PS4 can keep the console flame alive in the land of the rising sun. It'd be a shame if all consoles tanked there.

 

[Liha]

wow not bad

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Behold, the physical manifestation of a company who lost millions (billions?) due to heat issues..

I think MS estimated the cost of the warranty extention at 2 billion.

I guess they wanted to be reaaaaaly sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[Alebrije]

The scale is probably completely accurate because the volume difference is massive:

PS4 - 27.5x30.5x5.3cm = 4445 cm2

Xbox One - 34.3x26.3x8cm = 7217 cm2

Yep , and also the Kinetik seems bigger than current , it will be a problem for some people to find a place to put it...

 

[sixteen-bit]

Sony's hardware design & architecture skill is astounding.

What was their excuse for the PS3's design?

PS4 looks great. Evocative of the Slim PS2.

 

[Ashes]

Nib, what feature did you use to make these scaled photos? If people are arguing about the disc drives, you should pick something like a USB port to be absolutely sure.

I remember someone in the Xbox one reveal thread did that. They measured usb, and I went off the size of the controller. They were 5 to 6 cm off, and I was 1 cm off.

 

[watership]

You literally can't even tell that that is where the PS4 disc is supposed to go...

To be honest, this is no surprise to me. Microsoft is primarily a Software company - not a Hardware company - and they don't even do that particularly well.

The 360 skews the truth I think. Other than the Xbox 360 first model's failure rate, Microsoft has a pretty damn great track record on hardware, both design and function. Well not the first Xbox's design. Ugh. I never liked that. But the surface, arc mouse, natural keyboard, going back to old Sidewinder joypads and god tier Force Feedback Sidewinder Pro.. all awesome.

 

[Orayn]

Alright, here's my attempt at a to-scale picture, based on the size of the HDMI ports. Xbone picture was perspective cropped from a shot someone took of the box, since I can't find an official high res picture of the back.

 

[Izick]

There's got to be a catch to the PS4 design. I mean, it's more powerful than the X1 and has an internal PSU, yet it's considerably smaller. I don't understand.

As long as it doesn't overheat and we run into another RROD issue, then it's just a beautifully designed box. Smaller, more powerful, and an internal power source. My only concerns besides heating would be how quiet it is.

 

[Ashes]

There's got to be a catch to the PS4 design. I mean, it's more powerful than the X1 and has an internal PSU, yet it's considerably smaller. I don't understand.

Maybe they are at different manufacturing levels?

 

[TekGryphon]

I can confirm this. The red boxes are not the same size.


Too bad this isn't high res enough to say for sure.

You guys figured it out.

Sony's massive engineering department designed a disk tray that's too small to fit disks.

Xbone success assured.

 

[Rashid]

Come on guys I thought everyone would've sussed it by now. The xbone is made purposely huge, it has vast amounts of empty space inside. It has a banana to check for the 1 year warranty, and so to prevent the smell getting out as it ripens and rots thy have a big ass fan.

In 18 months when the xbone slim comes out, MS can then make it much smaller by cutting down the empty space and then even smaller from making the parts smaller. Then they can say "GUYS LOOK THE NEW XBONE SLIM IS NOW 4X SMALLER" and people will buy it in droves.