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[Zeed]

Source for that? And don't say starman.net.

I know that IGN has next-to-no credibility here but it's the best I got at the moment:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/810/810757p1.html

The hero and main character of Mother 3 (of what Americans know as the EarthBound series), Lucas was originally intended to replace Ness in the Smash Bros. roster during the development of the last installment, Melee. His debut game, though, got unceremoniously dumped – the original version of Mother 3 was to appear on the Nintendo 64, but the project was scrapped.

 

[Jiggy]

Source for that? And don't say starman.net.

Wikipedia points to this:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0717/index.html
I have no idea what it says, but I do see the "MOTHER3" in there.


Edit: Okay, okay, Google translation.

To tell the truth at the beginning, it was the schedule which is modified in the protagonist of MOTHER3, but there being a variety, while detouring, it was settled in the original sheath.

Seems right on to me.

 

[Haunted]

I know that IGN has next-to-no credibility here but it's the best I got at the moment:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/810/810757p1.html

Good enough for me, thanks.
also thanks, Jiggy. seems legit.


Hm, I predicted earlier that all of the original characters would return, so maybe Earthbound/Mother will get a second character with Lucas this time around? On the other hand, the JP-only Lucas would go against the notion that they're trying to make Brawl as international as possible... ah well, wait and see, I guess.


Oh man, just imagine them announcing Lucas as a Brawl character and the US release of Mother 3 in conjunction - Ami's gonna flip.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I think its fair for both characters to be in the game. Ness is already part fo the franchise and recognized by non-Earthbound fans while Lucas can be used to see how much interest there is in more Mother games.

Or maybe Lucas will be replaced with Ness in NA.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Oh man, just imagine them announcing Lucas as a Brawl character and the US release of Mother 3 in conjunction

I would have a heart attack of pure joy.

 

[grandjedi6]

I would have a heart attack of pure joy.

And then we would all wake up

 

[Golden Darkness]

I don't believe for a minute that Starman.net got super exclusive secret information from NOA, who have no hand in developing the game anyway, but I do think it likely that Lucas is going to be in. Allegedly Sakurai's been considering replacing Ness with Lucas since before Melee.

Why wouldn't they get info from NoA? Some of the forum members did get to visit the HQ and the visit was referred to in Nintendo Power. Getting such info shouldn't be a stretch. Besides, some of these same folks are working on the Mother 3 fan translation, and are taking this info serious enough to getting the translation finished before Brawl's release, since another tidbit involves

Spoiler

Mother 3's primary villian Pokey and the final area of the game

being featured in some form as well.

And while NOA may have no hand in developing the game, wouldn't they have to localize it for release, hence they must have access to the material to know who's in the game already.

 

[Jiggy]

I'm expecting both Ness and Lucas, personally. I could see how they could have justified swapping Ness out for SSBM since he'd only had one appearance before, but by now he's got twice the precedent for being an "expected" Smash character.


Then again, I haven't played Mother 3, so I have no idea how similar or different Lucas is. >_>

 

[Zeed]

Why wouldn't they get info from NoA? Some of the forum members did get to visit the HQ and the visit was referred to in Nintendo Power. Getting isuch nfo shouldn't be a stretch.

Starman, or at least Jonk, also claimed he knew that the Franklin Badge was coming and on what day (after the fact, mind you). Why anyone outside of Sakurai's web staff would know the updates a week in advance is beyond me, but in any case I simply don't believe that Jonk had anything concrete at all. Even if he did, though, the way he tried to present his information and how he reacted to skepticism is what ticked me off. Everything Starman said is fairly obvious, except perhaps the bit about Pokey.

 

[Haunted]

Then again, I haven't played Mother 3, so I have no idea how similar or different Lucas is. >_>

Same here. I never played Mother 3, so I only know Lucas (and Flint, who seems to be 'the badass' character) from pictures and summaries of the game. Makes it hard for me to get excited for either of them.

I'm expecting both Ness and Lucas, personally. I could see how they could have justified swapping Ness out for SSBM since he'd only had one appearance before, but by now he's got twice the precedent for being an "expected" Smash character.

Exactly. This also ties back nicely to my Marth theory, by the way.

 

[Servbot #42]

i predict an item update of some kind.

 

[Zeed]

I'm still going with my stage prediction, it's been a while since we've gotten one of those.

Anyway, this is now my 750th post in this thread. That's enough for now, I'm off until Japan Time. See ya.

 

[PunjabiPlaya]

I'm guessing there's gonna be a "How to Play" update. There hasn't been one in ages.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

its almost 2 months before release.

Shouldnt we be getting hands on impressions yet?

and oh , I predict another retarded pokemon! worse than piplup

 

[Golden Darkness]

Well, Jonk was one of the few Starmen.net members that did get to visit NoA, according to this: http://starmen.net/forum/?t=msg&th=37241

And he wasn't the only one hinting this: http://mother3.fobby.net/2007/08/10/38/

Now are you saying the top passionate fans of Earthbound/Mother are big fat liars, intent on exploting their community?

 

[Firestorm]

its almost 2 months before release.

Shouldnt we be getting hands on impressions yet?

and oh , I predict another retarded pokemon! worse than piplup

 

[Jiggy]

its almost 2 months before release.

Shouldnt we be getting hands on impressions yet?

Unnecessary, because Reggie's September surprise is a playable Brawl de--

:lol Nah, I can't even joke about that with a straight face.




Edit:

Well, Jonk was one of the few Starmen.net members that did get to visit NoA, according to this: http://starmen.net/forum/?t=msg&th=37241

And he wasn't the only one hinting this: http://mother3.fobby.net/2007/08/10/38/

Now are you saying the top passionate fans of Earthbound/Mother are big fat liars, intent on exploting their community?

Again, it wasn't even what he said so much as how he said it. His general attitude, and a sort of surprise that people wouldn't trip over themselves for the sake of believing him.

 

[Somnid]

Is it just me or does the word "dioramas" in the title seem like it changes spelling every time you look at it?

 

[Golden Darkness]

Again, it wasn't even what he said so much as how he said it. His general attitude, and a sort of surprise that people wouldn't trip over themselves for the sake of believing him.

Who said anything about Jonk? I was referring to the other Starmen.net figures.

 

[Jiggy]

Who said anything about Jonk? I was referring to the other Starmen.net figures.

Ah, sorry. Somehow I passed over Zeed's posts questioning Starmen, so I missed that they were even in doubt in the first place...

 

[Oblivion]

I hope you can change the backgrounds on the whole menu and interface as well. I like the one that they have for this recent update.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

perfect

Its Big Pink Shit!

Eggs = Items = Really?


another useless pokemon

 

[timmy]

Next update will be Master Chief as a playable character.

Well.... If it was ever going to happen, it would be today.

 

[GhettoGamer]

CAPT FALCON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MrNibbles]

The dog dude from contact to replace Mr Saturn

 

[grandjedi6]

The dog dude from contact to replace Mr Saturn

But Mr. Saturn has already been shown

 

[Datrio]

perfect

Its Big Pink Shit!

Eggs = Items = Really?

I can see that exact text on the update page for this Pokemon.

Well, there are 493 Pokemon in total, I'm sure some more will get included in the game...

 

[mCACGj]

The dog dude from contact to replace Mr Saturn

Why the hell would Mr. Saturn be replaced?

 

[MrNibbles]

Becase, it's Mr. Saturn.

 

[Iam Canadian]

The dog dude from contact to replace Mr Saturn

Don't even joke about that.

 

[Firestorm]

Why the hell would Mr. Saturn be replaced?

Because Mother is a dead franchise nobody cares about.

 

[Iam Canadian]

Because Mother is a dead franchise nobody cares about.

Only outside Japan.

 

[mCACGj]

Becase, it's Mr. Saturn.

Yeah, and he's totally awesome.

 

[Zeed]

Well, Jonk was one of the few Starmen.net members that did get to visit NoA, according to this: http://starmen.net/forum/?t=msg&th=37241

And he wasn't the only one hinting this: http://mother3.fobby.net/2007/08/10/38/

Now are you saying the top passionate fans of Earthbound/Mother are big fat liars, intent on exploting their community?

I think that something was probably said at that meeting which they blew out of proportion until it became "Lucas CONFIRMED!!!"

You'll note that no reputable news source is willing to take these "top passionate fans" at their word.

I don't think I've ever implied that they're liars intent on exploiting their community - for all I know they've convinced themselves that what they're saying is the gospel truth. True, my opinion may be tainted by the fact that Jonk was their sole representative here, but the fact that they chose to retroactively claim knowledge of the Franklin Badge makes me highly skeptical of anything else they've said.

Precedent gives me absolutely no reason to trust them, and so I won't.

 

[Firestorm]

Dammit. Hurry up update. I want to go to bed. Early class tomorrow.

 

[Jiggy]

Japan Time hurries for no one.

 

[Testicular Sound Express]

please don't be an item, pokemon, or assist trophy -_-.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

how many late nights of no sleep are left for me?

 

[Jiggy]

how many late nights of no sleep are left for me?

Counting tonight, 49.

 

[kirbutashi]

FINAL SMASH RARGH

sooner or later.

 

[fusoya59]

Prediction time!

Snake Final Smash.

 

[QuickKick89]

Come on, Nintendo. Give us a Megaton to pull our asses away from Halo 3.

 

[sprsk]

I think it's about time we got a new stage.

 

[Firestorm]

f5f5f5

 

[Stop It]

Last second prediction: Assist trophy for some obscure old game, or something

 

[MrNibbles]

Sep. 25 Tue. 2007

Diddy Kong: Final Smash

<Rocketbarrel Barrage>

The weapons Diddy Kong wields are his Peanut Popgun and his Rocketbarrel Boost.

His Final Smash makes superb use of both of these weapons!

He has popguns in both hands! And his rocketbarrels are firing!

He flies majestically through the sky!

Wow! The controls make it feel like you’re flying with a rocket pack! It’s really fun. Tilt his body left and right to move.

It’s a popgun barrage! Explosions everywhere!

The Peanut Popgun fires straight down, so you change the peanut firing angles by tilting Diddy left to right. I highly suggest mastering this.

When time runs out, the rocketbarrels explode!

Plus, you can gobble up the peanuts that fall to the ground.

Will you be enjoying some? No? Well, your opponents can eat the peanuts, too. So when your shots don’t hit, your opponents end up recovering damage instead of taking it.

 

[jj984jj]

Crappy Kong's Final Smash

 

[Jiggy]

Well, at least a bunch of us were right about the final smash part.

 

[Firestorm]

Diddy Kong Final Smash. Damn. Seems to be tha tmove from DK64

 

[fusoya59]

Bah!

I wanted Snake-u's