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SNES Classic Club: Super Punch-Out!!: Complete goals to earn stamps! (Oct 16th-31st)
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Gipsy Danger
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What is the difference between a body blow and uppercut to the opponent? Are some opponents weaker to one than the other?
Also, is the achievement supposed to be Sandman or Super Macho Man? Because it says 3/4 of the way through the game but Sandman is half way and Macho Man is 3/4.
Also, is the achievement supposed to be Sandman or Super Macho Man? Because it says 3/4 of the way through the game but Sandman is half way and Macho Man is 3/4.
Piston Hyundai
Member
just wanted to let you guys know that you're really fucking up my search results for replies
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I believe I had meant Super Macho Man, my apologies, I'll fix that. (But anyone who submitted for Mr. Sandman can keep the stamp)
Yes, some take more damage to the body. Also some leave their body more open than their head.
I'm currently stuck on Aran Ryan again. Timing throws me off lol.
So this may sound crazy, and I know the comparison is done to death in general, but I really feel like playing all the Punch Out games when I was younger helped me play through Bloodborne and all the Souls games. I just always got the feeling when I was playing through bosses in Souls that it was very similar, especially not taking the bait on hesitations.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Sorry, what's that, you want the blindfold stamp to be beating the whole game blindfolded? *ducks rain of shoes thrown at his head*
(I wouldn't actually do this... or would I?)
Is this gonna be your hardest one for a star goal? Or is F Zero gonna make me cry :/
Actually beating SMK on 150 in first will probably break me.
Also Contra 3.
Oh God you sadist you started with Mario to lull us into a false sense of security
QUOTE=Gipsy Danger;252082130]What is the difference between a body blow and uppercut to the opponent? Are some opponents weaker to one than the other?
Also, is the achievement supposed to be Sandman or Super Macho Man? Because it says 3/4 of the way through the game but Sandman is half way and Macho Man is 3/4.[/QUOTE]
You better not have gotten the stamp for sandman before posting this
Man, this game might be not for me... I'm having a save state before 'Bald Bull' and I just can't beat him for life! This is getting frustrating and I'm slowly losing my motivation.
Up until this point I won't deny that there is this sense of progression and rhythm to the game (it's a great feeling to beat the first opponent within 25 seconds and without getting hit once) and I can get to Bald Bull now no problem even with 5 lifes, but after that... no way.
I am just not able to read the choppy animations correctly and it is so frustrating to only take a pixel of his health, while he has me down with 3-4 punches... Also, it feels like this game is too combo heavy. If you can't land a final Super Punch and get hit, you have to get another combo going, since your P-bar is already empty at that point again. Sorry, I'm mad as hell right now -.-
Up until this point I won't deny that there is this sense of progression and rhythm to the game (it's a great feeling to beat the first opponent within 25 seconds and without getting hit once) and I can get to Bald Bull now no problem even with 5 lifes, but after that... no way.
I am just not able to read the choppy animations correctly and it is so frustrating to only take a pixel of his health, while he has me down with 3-4 punches... Also, it feels like this game is too combo heavy. If you can't land a final Super Punch and get hit, you have to get another combo going, since your P-bar is already empty at that point again. Sorry, I'm mad as hell right now -.-
I think that's just how the game works. With low latency, good reflexes, and tons of practice, you can win, but otherwise for a new player it's a slog. I failed about an hour straight at the luchador before giving up and I can only imagine there are like 15 boxers after that before the very first goal.
El Pescado
Member
I think that's just how the game works. With low latency, good reflexes, and tons of practice, you can win, but otherwise for a new player it's a slog. I failed about an hour straight at the luchador before giving up and I can only imagine there are like 15 boxers after that before the very first goal.
The next fight is Mr. Sandman. Theres only 16 boxers in the whole game.
I looked at the Passport Stamps for Super Punch-Out and thought, Man, these are easy... but I guess I didnt take in to account that Ive been playing this game almost yearly for over 20 years.
Hmm, I guess that's 5 more boxers to go. I might get that by the end of the month, thanks.
Fix-It Felix. Jr.
Member
Gave it one more shot, and actually won. Guess I'm going farther down the rabbit hole.
davidwhangchoi
Member
going to join and play punch out with everyone this week =)
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
That thumbnail is awfully suspicious. Hmmmmm.
Actually I need someone here who is extremely good at F-Zero to help balance the star goal -- I'm not good enough to do so. I'm looking for the star goal to be getting a time on Mute City that's close to the world record, but I don't know how close is too hard and I can't get anywhere near it.
Actually I need someone here who is extremely good at F-Zero to help balance the star goal -- I'm not good enough to do so. I'm looking for the star goal to be getting a time on Mute City that's close to the world record, but I don't know how close is too hard and I can't get anywhere near it.
If you call them out but it turns out the picture is legitimate, can we force you to do the blindfolded challenge?
I cant figure out Imgur on mobile!
Heres another one with the link it gives:
https://imgur.com/a/CwWkz
Completed on og SNES so definitely no save states!!!
https://imgur.com/a/1RwzU
#tko
#wvba
Will try the last one over the next couple of weeks
https://imgur.com/a/1RwzU
#tko
#wvba
Will try the last one over the next couple of weeks
Robin64
Member
Back when we had a NeoGAF Virtual Console Leaderboards thread going on, we had these times submitted. And they were damn good times.
El Pescado
Member
The F-Zero goals should be along the lines of:
1. Press Start on the Title Screen
2. Select the Blue Falcon
Star Goal: Win any race on Easy
You guys think Super Punch-Out is hard? Just wait until you try and play F-Zero.
1. Press Start on the Title Screen
2. Select the Blue Falcon
Star Goal: Win any race on Easy
You guys think Super Punch-Out is hard? Just wait until you try and play F-Zero.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Play with headphones and your eyes open, pay attention to audio cues, use save states to practice one opponent again and again. I'd also focus on memorizing quick kill strategies; you're way more likely to be able to make progress if you focus on memorizing some very basic patterns to nuke them quickly than if you actually try to play the game blind.
YES! Finally beat Bald Bull and had some sort of reliable strategy for him, so for my honor I restarted the entire circuit (I had a save state just in front of the last fight) to beat everybody in the row and managed to beat him on my first try!
Is it two more Circuits - so 8 more opponents - for the first stamp?
Is it two more Circuits - so 8 more opponents - for the first stamp?
Harbinger of War
Member
So Rick Bruiser is actually a bit of a push-over once you memorize his moveset, although I suppose that could be said for everyone in the game. Finally beat him three times in a row with relative ease. Gotta connect with the body blows after he finishes a sequence to set up the jabs, and dodge timing on his one-hit KO move is crucial. I feel like once you get your dodge timing down he becomes a piece of cake.
I imagine some enemies are easier if I looked up strategy for them, but it feels like such cheating that I'm forcing myself to learn every enemy the hard way, playing the game for the first time.
Unfortunately this means I don't know stuff like, is there any difference between dodging and counterpunching? Is it always safer to dodge? WHO KNOWS! And if someone tells me isn't that basically cheating and ruining the challenge for me?!
*edit* And some moves for example feel unblockable but I'm guessing I could counterpunch? But I basically have no idea whether I should be training myself to counterpunch or training myself to dodge them other than trying the same thing 50 times. And I don't know if I'm wasting 30 minutes trying to time my punches to match enemy punches, or whether that's totally the wrong approach.
Unfortunately this means I don't know stuff like, is there any difference between dodging and counterpunching? Is it always safer to dodge? WHO KNOWS! And if someone tells me isn't that basically cheating and ruining the challenge for me?!
*edit* And some moves for example feel unblockable but I'm guessing I could counterpunch? But I basically have no idea whether I should be training myself to counterpunch or training myself to dodge them other than trying the same thing 50 times. And I don't know if I'm wasting 30 minutes trying to time my punches to match enemy punches, or whether that's totally the wrong approach.
Rick is harder than Nick. He may be telling the truth that he let his brother win
I let that gray-haired guy win a game by sitting and doing nothing because I felt bad for him. It took a while though. "Yay!"
Now that I've beaten Sandman, which is probably the last boss that's POSSIBLE for normal humans to beat, until Stump gave in purely on the argument of fractions rather than difficulty, someone please spoil the fight for me. Is there any way to block the head wobble right right left (or is it random?) punch pattern?
Now that I've beaten Sandman, which is probably the last boss that's POSSIBLE for normal humans to beat, until Stump gave in purely on the argument of fractions rather than difficulty, someone please spoil the fight for me. Is there any way to block the head wobble right right left (or is it random?) punch pattern?
The only thing I ever found to do was just eat the first punches and duck the final strong one. Attempting to counterpunch or block never did anything at all, and dodging early means you eat the final punch.
thepenguin55
Member
Wow so the first circuit and Bob Charlie were no problem but Dragon Chan was like hitting a brick wall. I still cant figure him out
He was so much easier for me than the other fighters around him. If you want spoiled:
Almost all of his moves are very slow and hugely telegraphed. If he does a flying kick, you have plenty of time to duck under it. If he does the nearby kicks, you have to react quickly but you can dodge to the opposite side. For anything else, you just need to get him to start sliding, and then you're guaranteed a 3-hit punch combo minimum once you dodge after he starts dodging. Any time you see him doing the slow slide is almost guaranteed hits for you once you dodge.
Professor Beef
Banned
Reading this thread has me wondering how people will react to Narcis Prince if they're having trouble with Bald Bull of all boxers.
Aran Ryan is another example. His moves are basically easy to counter with one exception which is an infinite duration guaranteed kill.
Obviously there is some way to avoid this, which I haven't figured out from the main menu tutorial, but instead of feeling like I'm improving, I feel like my choices are to cheat by asking online / in the thread, or just do the same thing for 45 minutes until I randomly find the basic game mechanic I'm not understanding.
Instead of feeling like the challenge comes from timing, I feel like the challenge comes from not understanding the game mechanics. :/
*edit* Another example: On the "grab him" example, one time I
and had one outcome. Other times I've
and had a different outcome. I have no idea if it's because of my start / end timing, if it's RNG, if I'm not spamming fast enough, if I need to combo with another button, or what.
*edit2* Yup, turns out it was two missing game mechanics.
Obviously there is some way to avoid this, which I haven't figured out from the main menu tutorial, but instead of feeling like I'm improving, I feel like my choices are to cheat by asking online / in the thread, or just do the same thing for 45 minutes until I randomly find the basic game mechanic I'm not understanding.
Instead of feeling like the challenge comes from timing, I feel like the challenge comes from not understanding the game mechanics. :/
*edit* Another example: On the "grab him" example, one time I
spammed two buttons
spammed the same two buttons
*edit2* Yup, turns out it was two missing game mechanics.
Even though it appears that his punches are mostly on a level plane, one of them is considered low, so you actually have to block low/high/low/high rather than dodging or counterpunching or dodging and then attacking. If you do the blocks, it also conveniently cancels the infinite damage mechanic.
And about him trying to grab, it turns out if you just punch him in a 3-hit combo before he actually tries to grab you, this completely cancels his special move. Why? Who knows! I thought I was supposed to dodge special moves instead of trying to cancel them.
And about him trying to grab, it turns out if you just punch him in a 3-hit combo before he actually tries to grab you, this completely cancels his special move. Why? Who knows! I thought I was supposed to dodge special moves instead of trying to cancel them.
thesurfshop19
Member
I love this game and can still do a perfect 16-0 run but the third goal is behind my grasp! #tko #wvba
DassoBrother
Member
Thats awesome. Im still stuck on Major Circuit. Do those leaderboards not count towards the Quick Kills requirement?
I asked the same question earlier and if I understand correctly the implied answer was yes.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
RE rules:
1. For the first goal, you can use save states (use your conscience to avoid cheesing your way out of every punch)
2. For the second goal, it explicitly says not to use save states.
3. For the third goal, you can use save states (but if you do the blindfolded run, you'll have to use the savestates blindfolded)
For the Quick Kills, I didn't have an exact amount of time in mind -- just the idea that you go and learn world record type strategies, get KOs for anyone where it's possible, get fast TKOs for everyone else, get the top of the leaderboards, really demonstrate complete mastery of the game. If you feel comfortable that you you're, like, a Super Punch-Out!! expert and you've really put the game through the ringer and you've got the top leaderboard times and you're confident you can't improve except marginally, then by all means turn it in.
1. For the first goal, you can use save states (use your conscience to avoid cheesing your way out of every punch)
2. For the second goal, it explicitly says not to use save states.
3. For the third goal, you can use save states (but if you do the blindfolded run, you'll have to use the savestates blindfolded)
For the Quick Kills, I didn't have an exact amount of time in mind -- just the idea that you go and learn world record type strategies, get KOs for anyone where it's possible, get fast TKOs for everyone else, get the top of the leaderboards, really demonstrate complete mastery of the game. If you feel comfortable that you you're, like, a Super Punch-Out!! expert and you've really put the game through the ringer and you've got the top leaderboard times and you're confident you can't improve except marginally, then by all means turn it in.
Breezed through the first circuit & had some close calls in 2nd, but made it through. It's amazing to me that although I haven't played this for years, some of the timing and tricks are still in the old brain-box somewhere.
The name of my first wall is Heike Kaguro, who TKO'd me without my even managing a single down on him. But the little tippy-tap dance he does while you're down actually makes me laugh, so I can't stay mad. The work begins!
(Side-note about the Classic Club; I finished my SMW goals fairly early and had time to wait until SPO. Even though we knew this game was next for a while, I didn't let myself tackle it until this post went up. The anticipation actually felt good and fun, like I was waiting for the game to release all over again. I encourage y'all to savour these games if you can!)
The name of my first wall is Heike Kaguro, who TKO'd me without my even managing a single down on him. But the little tippy-tap dance he does while you're down actually makes me laugh, so I can't stay mad. The work begins!
(Side-note about the Classic Club; I finished my SMW goals fairly early and had time to wait until SPO. Even though we knew this game was next for a while, I didn't let myself tackle it until this post went up. The anticipation actually felt good and fun, like I was waiting for the game to release all over again. I encourage y'all to savour these games if you can!)