they are on itune, in english
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So much jp smut/fanservice games are localized in recent years, what changed?
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they are on itune, in english
Omg I remember that logo lol.I still think the best localization thing ever was with Cho Aniki for the PSP in the USA.
That logo.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Because I'm old enough to buy them now.
SolidSnakex
Member
Tons of text to translate.
Giolon
Member
Music rights is probably more likely to be the issue.
Because lol Bamco
I still think the best localization thing ever was with Cho Aniki for the PSP in the USA.
That logo.
Took me a while to see that. At least 4 glances. I feel like a prude now.
PepsimanVsJoe
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And we're still never going to get Final Fantasy Type O.
Just gotta laugh, or else there's nothing but crying.
Just gotta laugh, or else there's nothing but crying.
KojiKnight
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A lot of people are thinking localizers are suddenly on board... but I think it also has to do with Japanese developers being more open to the prospect of their games going international as well.
A lot of Japanese developers in the past had very little interest in the prospect and charged ridiculous amounts for localization rights. This was partly because many didn't want to "go back" to a game to aid in the work necessary for it (try having your English programmers debugging code commented in Japanese)... but you can see even more niche titles opening up in recent years.
For example, I'd never ever thought we'd have seen a game like Corpse Party make it international, but we not only saw it but one of the sequels to it.
A lot of Japanese developers in the past had very little interest in the prospect and charged ridiculous amounts for localization rights. This was partly because many didn't want to "go back" to a game to aid in the work necessary for it (try having your English programmers debugging code commented in Japanese)... but you can see even more niche titles opening up in recent years.
For example, I'd never ever thought we'd have seen a game like Corpse Party make it international, but we not only saw it but one of the sequels to it.
Crash Station
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Digital distribution really opened up the floodgates for that kind of stuff. At this point, everything is fair game except for the stuff that's borderline illegal.
You joke about this, but it's sad how things seem like this to people who don't know better. Some of the greatest games made in the last ten years are just not getting localized or have been in the process for many years, and a lot of the Compile Heart garbage that gets dumped on our shores is actually reviled by the Japanese too and has pretty low sales. Gotta remember it was the Japanese that came up with the nickname 'Idea Fuck' for Idea Factory.
Admiral Woofington
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why thank you.
Giolon
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No, you really can't.
WickedLaharl
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Standards have reached rock bottom. It's why companies like NIS/aksys have stayed afloat and now xseed (sadly) wants a piece.
Psycho_Mantis
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No way. In what society lol
Says you! One or two more years of XSEED kusoge localizations and I'll unleash my eroge knowledge on NeoGAF and be voted in as new administrator.
Well I was just kidding but just replace eroge with lewdge and it's sort of true. I don't think it has always been the case where simply showing a senran kagura box art would lead to pages of replies that are just jacknod.gif "xseed plzZZ" "day 1" "waifu for laifu preordering CE thank you based japan" etc. but now that's common enough.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Everyone always wanted waifus, but now everyone gets a waifu! It's a glorious time!
Admiral Woofington
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Not necessarily that standards have reached rock bottom, but people are more open with their tastes and desires now since today's society is much more open with acceptance than it was before. We still have a long way to go, but with nerds being the new cool in movies and media, it's not surprising that other similar cultures have become more well known. Anime is making another wave back into western cultures. With that comes interest into manga. Not to mention jrpg lovin' in the west seems to have grown, but I have no proof on numbers there just what I've seen with the internet.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I know you guys are just joking, but it amazes me how some people think Japan only does waifu games these days.
These games are considered a high grade import product, and the demand for Eastern Moe/Waifu Products has not been met by the market.
The Western countries can't produce these products internally, and the best way to get these products is to import it from a country that can efficiently create them.
So Japan decides to export and increases the supply of moe to meet the demand of the Western market.
High profit, low cost for Japan.
Basically, economics 101.
I am partially serious too...
The Western countries can't produce these products internally, and the best way to get these products is to import it from a country that can efficiently create them.
So Japan decides to export and increases the supply of moe to meet the demand of the Western market.
High profit, low cost for Japan.
Basically, economics 101.
I am partially serious too...
zerokoolpsx
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Digital Distribution has definitely made an impact for the niche titles. More people are open to those genres too.
chickdigger802
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Depends. Even Nintendo been pimping out Rosalina everywhere.
Everything is waifu bro
ambientmystic
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Not the only thing they do, but they're the only ones who do it. And do it well.
Who else is going to fullfill the desires of that demographic of gamers if not the glorious Nippon-jin.
That is the one thing Japan still has that is grossly lacking amongst the big ticket Western devs who've got all gritty and dark in the past decade with fucking shooters (FPS/TPS/platformers that are disguised as TPS) and realism.
Diversity is never a bad thing, and localizations of all kinds should be applauded.
OldKingDoran
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Yeah, and i'm sure some people aren't joking and actually believe that.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The funny thing is there not even popular in Japan.
UltraGunner
Banned
The Japanese wanted some of them Forever Alone US dollars.
Yep. basically the niches in each country can more easily be addressed as a whole via digital distribution at low cost, so the opportunity cost to support is low enough to make it viable.
Honestly, a ton of games coming out in the east have those elements, these days.. so it's hard to seperate them from the genre. I love rpgs, and I'm able to tolerate some fan service if it means there are enjoyable aspects like good combat, customization, and character growth. I'm personally not huge on the ecchi/fanservice, but I did buy Demon Gaze and Conception 2. Senran Kagura get's a big no from me though, I'm not that desperate.
Quite a few classics have scenes that are fanservicey; like Lunar, Final Fantasy X-2, and Tales of Symphonia. I think it's always been there, but its becoming more prominent now because anime culture has changed. It's a bit disappointing, but I don't think games like this are complete lost causes.
I noticed that a lot of animes are going this route as well. Seems like the medium has become a niche inside a niche, with a more grounded show coming out every now and then-- but certainly not as often as they used to.
chickdigger802
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Isn't that battleship moe game more popular than Obama?
fatgamecat
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I don't care that hentai-like games with little or no gameplay value exist (Idea Factory, Compile Heart, NIS, etc).
I'm just disappointed some of my favorite series/genres are either disappearing or turning into those kinds of games. Advance Wars, Front Mission, Fire Emblem, Valkyria Chronicles, etc.
I'm just disappointed some of my favorite series/genres are either disappearing or turning into those kinds of games. Advance Wars, Front Mission, Fire Emblem, Valkyria Chronicles, etc.
KojiKnight
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With current gen games getting more expensive, and localizations of portables getting cheaper and cheaper, we are seeing exactly that. There are less AAA shooters, and there are more wacky Japanese games which inevitably contain fanservice of one kind or another... Hell, even Nintendo is feeling fit to get in on it, though of course in their own way (Tomodachi Life).
It's not just "eroge", but titles like 999, Danganronpa, etc.
Let's be honest, A isn't the cause of B here. Also, Fire Emblem just got a new title not that long ago... it's not going anywhere, in fact it's in the best position it has been in the west since it's inception.
Psycho_Mantis
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Admiral Woofington
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The recent Fire Emblem was damn good though. I thought it was easily the most popular one, and still had a lot of complexity. You also weren't forced to do the relationship mechanics. Persona in general proved that people really enjoy this.
Many are probably testing the market for these sort of games with these sort of things. Persona's delving into this really is a side thought when you get down to the game, but the community garnered from it specifically can't be ignored. I wouldn't be surprised if the surge in popularity for Persona over recent years made people think there might be a notable enough market to sell to here. Though this is a hypothesis, at best.
Psycho_Mantis
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Fire Emblem and VC are damn good games.
The waifu thing in FE was totally pandering to that audience and VC has started doing something like that as well iirc so I can see where your coming from.
Persona sets it apart from other games in a really good way that many people seem to enjoy. Social links are the way forward!
OldKingDoran
Banned
you can buy them on ios for like $55 each
br0ken_shad0w
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They never sold well. Publishers just realized localizing isn't that expensive and also tapered their sales expectations. (ie you can make profit just selling 100k like Neptunia)
I heard it was actually a semi-decent game.....but yeah. Japan is weird.
It's a pretty great game
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
I think the advent of services like Crunchyroll making anime more accessible to a wider audience has grown the market for this type of content. Combined that with the cost savings of digital distribution and you get a financially profitable business model.
Personally I'd take this kind of game over the absolutely disgusting acts you can commit in GTA or the mindless shootbang of other "mainstream" games any day.
Personally I'd take this kind of game over the absolutely disgusting acts you can commit in GTA or the mindless shootbang of other "mainstream" games any day.
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