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SOCOM 4 |OT|
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LittleTokyo
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Wow, some of you people... an entire MONTH delay on a patch? WOW, the sky is falling.
My God, patience is a virtue folks.
My God, patience is a virtue folks.
BobTheFork
Member
Yeah, it's pretty lame they even launched the game without the one feature people wanted most. Not being able to get it in withing a few months afterwards makes it kind of embarrassing. It's a shame the PSN outage is taking such a heavy hit on the game, I just hope they don't think that's the only reason for the games sales when they looks back on it.
With as much appreciation and praise I have for the game/series, forgive me for being pissed that a key promised feature (and a reason why lobbies were scrapped) hasn't made it into the game yet.LittleTokyo said:
If you make a community-driven game based entirely on matchmaking, a party system should've been one of the first things on the list while in development.
LittleTokyo said:
I'm 50/50
I can wait. But then again, Sony themselves should be working on a unified party system that all their first parties online games could use and maybe even a system that they can request third party publishers use for ps3 games.
There is also no reason for an developer of an online game to not begin to implement a party system at the beginning stages of development.
They wanted to do something different. Fine.
Stray away from traditional socom. Fine.
Tweak the game as the community builds up after release. Fine.
But as someone who is pretty much Pro Socom 4, I do think this is a major misstep on zipper's part.
Match Making.
Friend Invites.
Join existing friends in game.
Mic System.
Lobbies.
etc etc etc.
I can't see how an online game developer would wait for the last minute to implement these things.
I can deal with it but I can definitely appreciate everyone else's frustration with this.
No specifics on features/how it's going to be implemented, but in general it will allow you to play with friends and clan mates outside of the clan challenges.mr stroke said:
Right now you have to manually try to get into the room your friends are in by using your friend/clan list, and coupled with how fast matchmaking refills the rooms once there are spots it's tough to get people in. And then on top of that, once you're in the room with your friends there's no way to easily switch teams so that you're on the same side.panda21 said:
Zipper really has disappointed me here this time. I'm shocked an innovator in console online gaming from last gen, and who has a party system in their other flagship game this gen, can not get this party-system out there. We shouldn't have waited until June, we shouldn't have had to wait a few weeks after launch. This should have been there DAY ONE. It's one of the single-most important features to have in the game, and there's no excuse, none, to overlook it.
Between this patching stuff and the PSN disaster, S4 is probably not going to do too hot this time around. Which is a shame as outside of the party system non-sense, it's a brilliant game. But no party system + not being able to play the game = hurt on sales.
Between this patching stuff and the PSN disaster, S4 is probably not going to do too hot this time around. Which is a shame as outside of the party system non-sense, it's a brilliant game. But no party system + not being able to play the game = hurt on sales.
No, it doesn't reset. Once you're in a room you'll play the same people until they leave, and then matchmaking/people manually trying to join will fill the slots as it happens. The issue is that matchmaking usually keeps the rooms full before you can gather everyone you want to play with. The party system will cut out the need to manually join rooms and allow you to play as a group instead of a bunch of individuals trying to make their way in one at a time.mr stroke said:
The one big plus for the lobby system in previous games was that it allowed you to find an empty room (or create one) and fill it with who you wanted to play with.
There is some good news to consider with the psn down time (glass is half full). Many of the people that don't like socom most likely will not be returning. Their time to hate on the game in game will have passed I hope and they will go back to playing other games.
Hardcore fanatics will probably return but may be more open to playing socom 4 than before. Some will just be happy to be back like the rest of us.
So for the most part, I do expect that the majority of the people to play socom 4 are those that like it and less of the haters from before.
With that said.
PSN ID: LordRaoh
Invite me to the clan.
I just want Zipper to bring back custom taunts
"Don't run, You'll Only Die Tired."
Hardcore fanatics will probably return but may be more open to playing socom 4 than before. Some will just be happy to be back like the rest of us.
So for the most part, I do expect that the majority of the people to play socom 4 are those that like it and less of the haters from before.
With that said.
PSN ID: LordRaoh
Invite me to the clan.
I just want Zipper to bring back custom taunts
"Don't run, You'll Only Die Tired."
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Guess you guys can start with me, traded in my copy and paid off 'Brink'. S4 personally wasn't my cup of tea. My ID is MemoryCure. You can kick me out of the clan (obviously).
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
lolalr1ghtstart said:
Zipper trained them b4 takin Osama down
BattleMonkey
Member
This sucks, played the MP for a day and was loving it. The SP isn't bad but it isn't anything special and has lots of issues, but damnit I bought this for MP.
So badass:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr...441467&Signature=0C0sMQeWJaVcbmtjoaNHAwVaYuI=
(the navy seals that took him down)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr...441467&Signature=0C0sMQeWJaVcbmtjoaNHAwVaYuI=
(the navy seals that took him down)
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Socom 3 had a good SP, probably the best in the seriesSporran said:the iront of this game is since its inception, start at Socom i have never played the SP, honest guv. For me socom was always about the online and team play.
Since PSN has been down, guess what, yes im playing the SP
It aint that bad!!
have'nt played 4 yet so.
supermackem
Banned
I dont get the issues with the friends thing, zippers other game mag is fucking perfect in every aspect of playing with friends and clan mates.
valentine71
Banned
bob page said:
Probably the Naval Special Warfare Development Group.
I love the Trophy thumbnails.
I wish Zipper would have thought about implementing a way to just play on a multiplayer map without any enemies for the sake of exploring and tactics. Like a training mode that loads a map you want and you can select if you want to play alone and explore or bring in some bots.
Also, Harvester would be awesome in Socom 4.
I wish Zipper would have thought about implementing a way to just play on a multiplayer map without any enemies for the sake of exploring and tactics. Like a training mode that loads a map you want and you can select if you want to play alone and explore or bring in some bots.
Also, Harvester would be awesome in Socom 4.
Finished the campaign in about 6ish hours. Overall it was cool and pretty fun. I wish there were better opportunities to issue commands to your teammates. The maps were a little bottlenecked usually and meant spreading your team out wasn't that easy. The stealth missions were cool at first but then got a little cheesy later on IMO. Either way, it felt nice to play a full-fledged SOCOM game again instead of the online-only Confrontation.
Can't wait for PSN to be up so I can spend the rest of my days in multiplayer.
I put like 20 hours into the beta, which is more than I ever put into a beta...I'm addicted!
Can't wait for PSN to be up so I can spend the rest of my days in multiplayer.
I put like 20 hours into the beta, which is more than I ever put into a beta...I'm addicted!MustacheBandit_
Member
Persona7 said:
tell your friend to contact amazon, they might honor the new price if he bought it the day before the change.
*edit* just checked, the price is $45.99, not $40
Do you mean going into red dot when you zoom? If so hit R3 and then it will go to an over the shoulder instead. Any time you hit R3 and go into red dot it will go into that view when you zoom unless you hit R3 to back out of it. Slightly annoying at first but after awhile you learn how to deal with it.Jtrizzy said:
I wish you could disable that...is that supposed to make it more realistic somehow?W1SSY said:
I just wish they would give us custom controls...no one does it in console games and it fucking annoys me. X would be better as the prone button too...you hardly use the jump/vault button anyway.
Nah, I doubt it's for realism - probably just the easiest way they thought to combine 2 views to a single button. Using the OTS view is pointless in SP, so it's probably best to have the sights on as default anyways.Jtrizzy said:
I definitely agree with the custom controls though. The jump button mapped to X makes sense when you're playing online because it's used frequently, but I'd love to remap the run button off L3. For how often you have to use the button, constantly pressing it seems to ruin the sticks.
I would love to hear why devs can't just give us the pre sets, but also allow for re mapping. It used to be in sports games and shooter, but now you never see it...so frustrating...I hate aiming and having to click out of my sights most of all...let us toggle that please Zipper!
Giriath_89
Member
Jtrizzy said:
I too think it's stupid that developers don't give us fully customizable controls anymore. They can still stick to developing the game with certain pre-sets in mind. Of course many configurations you could make will make playing difficult, but people won't be retarded and make those.
mr stroke said:I just got this and its been sitting all week since the single player blows. I am itching to play multi WTF SONY!
Sony should consider making Socom PC and PS3 from now on. Let SOE handle the online for PC. Its only more money in their pockets.
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I would pay loads for this.
Game beaten... love the combat missions...I really liked the first and the last mission.
I prefer the game had small missions for you and your team, or at least non controllable friendly AI. Its kind of ridiculous that your team of 5 can take on an entire army at times.
Hate hate hated the stealth missions though...too many of them...slowed the game down and if you were spotted, it was fucking game over.
I prefer the game had small missions for you and your team, or at least non controllable friendly AI. Its kind of ridiculous that your team of 5 can take on an entire army at times.
Hate hate hated the stealth missions though...too many of them...slowed the game down and if you were spotted, it was fucking game over.
Giriath_89
Member
mr stroke said:
Good question. Probably there will be considerably less players, especially if any good shooters release soon or have released during the PSN downtime.
The sad thing is that they made a ton of changes to cater to a new audience, and those are the same people that are going to ditch the game once the next big thing comes out. It wouldn't be an issue if they attracted enough attention soon after the game's launch, but the PSN being down really cut into the time they could capitalize before some other titles released.
I'm sure anyone who purchased the game already is pretty excited to get back online regardless of how long PSN stays down, but they definitely missed out on some people that were on the fence.
I'm sure anyone who purchased the game already is pretty excited to get back online regardless of how long PSN stays down, but they definitely missed out on some people that were on the fence.