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Sonic 3 is the best 2D sonic game, right?
- Thread starter entremet
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Why would you do that?
Member
I think SEGA confirmed it after he died. They mentioned something about the various partnerships he had with them.
Might be wrong, though.
entremet
Member
Hey man, without Sonic 3 you couldn't save your SK games! So you gotta give it more credit.
PowderedToast
Junior Member
sonic 1 megadrive and sonic 1 game gear are my favs
by 3 it all gets too complex and frustrating for me
by 3 it all gets too complex and frustrating for me
entremet
Member
How are the Game Gear Sonics? Are they based on the Master System versions. I think they're on the VC, so I might pick them up. I'm doing a Sonic run of late.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Despite some contradictory statements made by former Sega of America employees of that time, it was pretty much confirmed by one of Michael's collaborators of that period that he did write some of Sonic 3's songs.
There's even a clip of rapper Heavy D saying "Jam!" in Carnival Night Zone.
Red Chocobo
Banned
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
They're OK, but stay away from the GG version of Sonic 2. The small screen on the GG made some of the bosses and levels a nightmare compared to the MS version.
PowderedToast
Junior Member
don't know if they're unique or not. i've only played the first but it's quite simple and has a decent recreation of the megadrive physics (still has better platforming than modern sonic)
as someone who isn't very good at the series i enjoy it a lot, but it might not hold up for others as anything more than an interesting relic.
This guy gets it. Most levels, best graphics, best music, plus Hyper forms for all three characters! Super Chaos Emeralds are so satisfying to get.
True. Sonic 3 on its own is, on the other hand, probably the worst of the Mega Drive Sonic games. For me at least. I still remember what a let down that game was back in the day.
Let§s not forget the Doomsday level. Plus the bonus special stages (when you put Sonic 1 in S&K), I played those on and on until I became really good. I even had a table with the passwords.
SuperChoco
Member
Other than Marble Zone, I always did like Sonic 3. Both it and S&K have the best level design out of the classic series imo. The one advantage of Sonic 3 over the lock on is that in S&K;
Sonic 3 has multiplayer, a different invincibility music, a save mechanic, and the "first" 6 zones. You can play as Sonic and/or Tails.
Sonic and Knuckles has the "last" 7 zones. You can play as Sonic or Knuckles.
you lose the ability to go Super Sonic once you reach Mushroom Hill and can't transform until you beat all the blue sphere games
Sonic 3 has multiplayer, a different invincibility music, a save mechanic, and the "first" 6 zones. You can play as Sonic and/or Tails.
Sonic and Knuckles has the "last" 7 zones. You can play as Sonic or Knuckles.
No, you can just avoid all the rings and skip the super emerald stuff.
you can actually avoid this by just never going into a special stage again
Poimandres
Member
I never really liked Sonic 3. It was pretty disappointing to me. Only 6 zones, and half of them are kind of lame.
Angel Island - Superb
Hydrocity - Water? Bleh
Marble Garden - Boring
Carnival Night - Already had my fill of this with Casino Night
Ice Cap - Rad
Launch Base - Pretty good
And that's the game! Pretty weak at the end of the day. I liked Sonic and Knuckles much more.
Angel Island - Superb
Hydrocity - Water? Bleh
Marble Garden - Boring
Carnival Night - Already had my fill of this with Casino Night
Ice Cap - Rad
Launch Base - Pretty good
And that's the game! Pretty weak at the end of the day. I liked Sonic and Knuckles much more.
You can use Knuckles in the Sonic 3 levels, the levels are a bit different and the game is harder when playing as Knuckles.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Sonic 2 is my favorite.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Banned
No, Sonic 2 is.
Sonic 3 is overlong and has incredibly repetitive level design. That Marble whatever level is probably the worst Sonic level ever.
Sonic 3 is overlong and has incredibly repetitive level design. That Marble whatever level is probably the worst Sonic level ever.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
The people who think that Sonic 2 is better than Sonic 3 & Knuckles must be the same sort of people who like Dr. Mario more than Tetris and Super Smash Bros. Brawl more than Melee. But hey, it's OK to like inferior things.
Warm Machine
Member
Sonic 3 is the ugliest one. It threw away much of the beautiful geometric landscape and art style. The levels also go on forever.
Sonic 2 is the best of them followed by 1.
Sonic 2 is the best of them followed by 1.
S3&K is the best. Massive, glorious game with one of the more memorable final battle.
Yeah, I think Sonic CD is a mess. Level design is haphazard at best, time travel gimmick is under-utilized, boss battles are straight up bizarre, and for a game that came out after Sonic 2, it looks worse. Oh, and the music sucks.
I honestly don't get the Sonic CD love.
Yeah, I think Sonic CD is a mess. Level design is haphazard at best, time travel gimmick is under-utilized, boss battles are straight up bizarre, and for a game that came out after Sonic 2, it looks worse. Oh, and the music sucks.
I honestly don't get the Sonic CD love.
entremet
Member
Gotta admit that Sonic 3 had the best Sonic sprite.
SuperChoco
Member
There are a couple spots in Mushroom Hill where you are forced to go through a ring. I believe it's through a transition in Act 2.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Frankly, I think Sonic's sprite in S3&K looks like rancid poop compared to the Sonic 1/2/CD sprite.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles has both Carnival Night Zone and Sandopolis Zone, both of which are rather annoying long levels. Sonic 2 might've had the annoying Metropolis Zone, but at least it was right near the end of the game.
DigitalRicket
Member
Hands down. As a kid I felt that all gaming had led to that one moment when you could hook them up together. Also not to mention if you tried to insert the first Sonic and you'd get the bonus stages to play through... never did find out if it was an endless mode or not though.
Every time I replay S3&K on whatever compilation disc or digital rerelease, I always have fun as much as I did when I played it being a kid. Not to mention it a good amount of the music was great (Hydrocity Zone Act 2 yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees. Plus it goes great with the Fresh Prince theme.)
Sonic 2 is still great, especially since that's how I got into the series, but I feel S3&K wins just slightly. Probably due to the fact you had 3 different characters that played differently, one allowing for alt paths and even boss battles, and the ability to save.
Dorimukyasuto
Member
Well, considering I haven't played the Sonic 3 & Knuckles combo yet, I will say Sonic CD until I can see if Sonic 3/Sonic 3 & Knuckles is better. The worst game of them all is Sonic 4 Part 1, though.
Arkage
Banned
Sonic 3&Knuckles is my favoirte over just sonic 3, just cause of that bad ass case
When I got the game for Christmas I was like "MAN THIS CASE IS BADASS!"
And so was the game with Sonic 3 locked on. I literally filled every save slot with every character combination with all chaos emeralds. I also love the soundtrack in the game. Beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxlqTpZ-24
tkscz
Member
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is the completely game, and is a much more satisfying game. The knuckles sections of the sonic 3 levels were fun to explore and unlocking
Hyper sonic, Hyper knuckles, and super tails
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
That extra shading and rounder, more appealing look. Ugh. Sonic should have stayed in 1992.
So....large, open areas with plenty of hidden nooks and crannies is a bad thing?
Aaron Strife
Banned
Yeah but S&K has Sandopolis which is infinitely worse than any of those.
It is a fixed number, but there's no way anyone would actually get through them. 134,217,728 to be exact.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Sonic 4 Ep. 1 is garbage, but there are definitely far worse Sonic games out there. Like Sonic Blast or Sonic Labyrinth.
Sonic 3&Knuckles is my favoirte over just sonic 3, just cause of that bad ass case
I still have my cardboard box of this game from when I was a kid, and it's one of the few boxes that is absolutely trashed because I played it so goddamn much.
uncledonnie
Banned
This. Sonic 2 is close though.
This. This is my problem with it! I didn't play Sonic CD until Sonic Gems Collection about a decade ago, and I didn't like it much. What you've said is a great way of explaining a big reason why I didn't like that game. There are no landmarks. It feels like I'm just pressing on until I reach the end marker. In all the Genesis Sonics, it felt like I was actually exploring places.