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[Tagyhag]

So during the conference they mentioned that 1080p and 4K outputs will have different settings for the Pro.

I really hope most of those 1080p settings allow for 60fps.

I want one, but now I'll probably just wait to see what more devs decide to do, especially since the 4K isn't native 4K.

 

[Aaronrules380]

since it's completely up to the devs what they use the additional power for there should be no problem for devs to use it for higher FPS.

Since it's up to the devs, I expect most games to barely take advantage of the extra power on a 1080p tv at all tbh. And the ones who are (mostly the huge games where I could see Sony paying them to take more advantage of it) are the type that are unlikely to prioritize frame rate anyways

 

[MADGAME]

No UHD player is a massive disappointment for me.

Please answer this for me, GAF. I heard Cerny say PS4 pro will deliver 4k and HDR on those sets, and the PS4 Pro will add additional effects, lighting, environmental density, etc on 1080p sets.

My question - Do you also get the additional effects allowed on the 1080p sets on the 4K sets? Or on the 4K sets is it one or the other?

I appreciate the info, but please don't answer if you're guessing

 

[Danlord]

Looks like Sony has a new camera coming;

Taken from Hollie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/HollieB/status/773609740534415360

 

[FinalStageBoss]

In for 1 pls

 

[Requeim]

This is not what they did shown. Games were still 30 fps.

They should have shown it, but that doesn't mean that it's not a thing. Developers can use extra power as they choose (which should mean better performing 1080p games)

 

[Hesemonni]

Is the Pro going to be more powerful than my i7 6700k/980 Ti PC?

Lol no.

 

[IvanJ]

Sorry for the double post, GAF is spazzing out on my side.

 

[BONKERS]

HDR blah blah HDR blah blah.
As if an expanded color gamut and wider range of brightness is going to solve underlying issues with display technology and improve image quality like they claim.
Unlike actually improving IQ with higher quality AA, improved texture filtering, draw distances and higher precision buffers.

ME:A all that extra power, and still using shitty HDAO. CoD, low res shadows, but maybe they will actually hit 60FPS in campaign for once!

PS4 Pro looks like 3 slabs of Dollar Tree floor tiles glued together. And why add that stupid lightbar on the front of the controller? Just another thing I have to put tape over.

Also notice how when showing off games they never once mention that games are running at 4k. They only say "it's running at much higher resolution"
As if anyone could actually expect them to hit native 4k easily with just a small GPU upgrade and CPU clock boost.

PS4 Pro has much more interesting potential for 1080p TVs, because IQ and performance should be massively improved.
I hope i'm not disappointed in FFXV's Pro upgrade at 1080p. 1080p minimum, solid 30FPS, increased draw distances, higher quality shadows, higher res rendering with better AA, 16xAF. PLS Squeenix, don't disappoint
PLS Square Enix

 

[dakun]

Is the Pro going to be more powerful than my i7 6700k/980 Ti PC?

yeah. Even the PS4 as it is right now destroys the collection of garbage hardware you call a PC

 

[gundamkyoukai]

the price is right .
even on 1080 sets games going to better and that was all i wanted.

 

[whiteape]

PlayStationDE says every game will get a better framerate with PS4 Pro:

Wer kein 4K hat kann sich trotzdem über stabile Framerates bei 1080p für ALLE #PS4 Games freuen! #PS4Pro #PlayStationMeeting

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Can't wait to trade my OG for a PRO.

 

[Willy Wanka]

I won't be upgrading my TV any time soon so I don't really feel a need to replace my current PS4. UK price is better than expected though. Hopefully Digital Foundry will do some thorough comparisons between PS4 Poor and PS4 Pro versions of games because it was hard to tell the difference from that conference footage.

 

[Alchemist]

Day one.

Dat price!

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Good price at $399 (probably $499 CAD), but I didn't really think they gave me a good reason to upgrade, especially considering I don't have a 4K TV and probably won't have one anytime soon. I might just upgrade my computer over this.

Was waiting till this conference to decide whether to get a Neo or upgrade my CPU and GPU to an i5-6500 and GTX 1060 from an i3-2100 and GTX 960.

I was unimpressed with the Pro, so I'll be putting that money into the computer.

 

[jett]

Rigby wasn't right at all, fools. He insisted on the regular PS4 playing Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. That's something else. That wasn't even mentioned for the PS4 Pro, was it?

 

[Kraq]

They needed to show footage of PS4 graphics against the PS4 Pro. I noted some better lighting but I'm putting that down to HDR, which means nothing if you don't have a 4K HDR ready TV. Otherwise, I couldn't tell the graphical difference.

Suspicious lack of mentioning 60fps either, which is never a good sign.

 

[Creaking]

Good price at $399 (probably $499 CAD), but I didn't really think they gave me a good reason to upgrade, especially considering I don't have a 4K TV and probably won't have one anytime soon. I might just upgrade my computer over this.

Yeah, they didn't do enough to show off the benefits to standard HDTV users.

 

[alr1ght]

Well, at least it's pretty cheap. Doesn't really entice me to go out and get one. It's pretty ugly.

Will only be interested if devs continually support higher framerates.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Is the Pro going to be more powerful than my i7 6700k/980 Ti PC?

Are you being an ass on purpose or legitimately asking?Because the answer is no.

 

[vpance]

ZhugeEX was right. No spec bump, Nov launch. Credibility stays solid.

 

[Hawk269]

they didn't mention UHD discs, did they?

Came into the thread to mention this. It is very odd that there was no mention of a UHD drive, just streaming 4k content. MS was also not as forward, but they did say it did UHD disks, they just were not talking about it a lot. I am sure the Pro has to have it, but very odd with all the talk of 4k and HDR and the benefits that they don't say at all that it has or does not have a UHD drive.

 

[Trago]

Will be gaming at full HD with the Pro. The advantages seem better. stable frame rates.

 

[Alienous]

So I'm supposed to believe that 2x power can quadruple the fidelity?

 

[Zurick]

The price is so good yet nobody has it for preorder yet wtf

 

[Pineapple]

Also it's not true 4k so don't go thinking you'll get true 4k gaming for $400 on your newly bought 4k tv.

So what is actually take place?

If we have a 4K TV, and a regular PS4, the TV is upscaling the image to 4K - so what would the PS4 Pro offer in terms of improving the picture?

 

[JaggedSac]

How many flops?

 

[H4r4kiri]

SO if my normal Display can't show the colors of an HDR picture, how can I see the difference in the Example pictures ?

Btw. Does really Premium HDR not require HDMI 2.0 ? The normal one does not have it.

 

[StoopKid]

What a piece of shit.

Neogaf.gif

 

[Sanjuro]

These frauds didn't even tell us how much better No Man's Sky would perform on it. It's like they were hiding something.

 

[Cake Boss]

will pick up PS4slim and wait out for a proper upgrade 3 years from now (PS5).

 

[GodofWine]

The price point saved the show, but I'm confused about consoles for the first time ever, and never have I been so interested in PC gaming

 

[Bubba77]

so does it have a 4k blu ray player?

 

[bomberman447]

If this is $430 cdn like the OG PS4 then I am very interested, but if it is $550 like the PSVR, then no bueno.

 

[Pathfinder]

A new toy for my new 4K TV to play with.

I wish they would have stuck with "Neo" though. "Pro" sounds so bland.

 

[Alcotholic]

PS4 Pro is for Professionals!

 

[UberTag]

Good price at $399 (probably $499 CAD), but I didn't really think they gave me a good reason to upgrade, especially considering I don't have a 4K TV and probably won't have one anytime soon. I might just upgrade my computer over this.

"Only $499 CAD? But the current exchange rate values $399 US at $514.68. And because Canadians are suckers who deserve to be fleeced and their colorful money will undoubtedly drop in value over the next year, let's price it at $549 instead. Plus 13% tax. So make it an even $620. Sound better? Now, go buy some $55 digital Vita games, you suckers."

This is how I believe Sony Canada thinks of us right now.

 

[Sanpei]

What about multiplayer ?

PS4 and PS4 Pro players can play together

But what if a game on ps4 is 30fps ? Then i assume ps4 pro version will be 30fps then...
Right ?

 

[panama chief]

Design looks lazy as fuck. Damn Sony. I'm buying one at some point but it won't be at release. Hit me with the pro/VR combo around xmas please.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

So basically everybody was right to think a stop gap console was unnecessary when the new of the Neo first leaked.

 

[BumRush]

Can someone tweet Sony and ask if UHD bluray support will be included in the Pro?

 

[royalroyal]

is that a new headset?

 

[Pooya]

4.2TF confirmed?

They didn't talk at all about specs, which is odd for Cerny. It gotta be same as leaks and they feel they shouldn't brag about it.

 

[The Argus]

The price is so good yet nobody has it for preorder yet wtf

I want to go get lunch, but I don't want to miss the probably 5 min pre-order window

 

[thenexus6]

Pro is the Neo.

I know, it just doesn't feel like it. I expected something big which would wow me.

 

[boredandlazy]

So they didn't mention UHD blu-ray... But surely it's included? So disappointed if it isn't...

 

[Plinko]

I guess I'm not seeing the point for people without 4K TVs.

 

[EASTC0AST_GH05T]

So no led strip on the PS4 Pro? I think the original looks better.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

No UHD bluray support is the most wtf thing ever though...