OldJadedGamer
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Agnates said:If you don't want them limited by tech then you should wish for the PC motion solutions to catch on, not this. This thread is turning into more fanboy wars for no reason....
As a Mac user for over 13 years who only games on consoles... why would I care about this? All this waggle stuff is built for multiple people in front of the TV. Good luck getting mom, grandma, and your uncle at thanksgiving all huddled around your computer monitor ready to play some virtual bowling.
Vinci said:Marketing expense won't be enough. MS and Sony are going to need to pay for the development of prettyprettyprincessstick and Natal games. 3rd parties don't have any inherent need to support these things when what they're doing is either working or failing fine on its own, without the need for mass experimentation. It's going to take money, real money, not just marketing.
3rd parties need to support every new tech that comes out from these companies since they don't know which one will be a success and which will be a failure so it's good to get your foot in the door early just in case. The Wii is a perfect example of this. I'm not saying long term support will be there but if a company is smart, they will have something solid in the first year of release of the system.
Opiate said:That basically is a moneyhat, though. It's just legally sanctioned.
Let's say I want you to provide me a service. I pay you 5 dollars for that service, and you go and spend that on food.
Now let's say, instead, I want you to provide me a service, and I buy you 5 dollars worth of food as a bonus.
What's the difference? You were going to buy food anyway. Similarly, you were going to have to market your game anyway.
(Rant on) I've stated why I deplore this behavior before: because it distorts the market place. Let's be realistic here: Sony and Microsoft are both behaving this way in the hopes of capturing a dominant, monopolistic hold with their "convergence boxes." They want a Windows-esque monopoly where the music, movies, games, and other media which enter your living room first go through them. Does anyone argue with that premise?
Well, if and when one of them actually accomplishes that goal, you can rest assured the money hats will cease. What would be their motivation to continue? Microsoft would treat the console industry just like it now treats the PC gaming industry: it basically ignores it, because what are the developers going to do when there's no viable alternative?
And then publishers will suddenly be faced with a market where their products actually have to be self sustaining. As more of an industry observer than actual purveyor, I really deplore this practice. It provides short term gain at the cost of the long term health of the market.
/rant off
Excellent post and you are right.