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Sony doesn't allow Fallout 4/Skyrim mods on PS4
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Well, perhaps nobody expected such stupid limitations?
I wonder if Bethesda at least fixed the huge compatibility issues for mods on PS4.
Maybe they couldn't solve it and just put the blame on Sony, I mean it's strange that they have been working on it for month just to discover now that Sony won't allow it.
Seems like I won't be buying Skyrim again unfortunately.
Maybe they couldn't solve it and just put the blame on Sony, I mean it's strange that they have been working on it for month just to discover now that Sony won't allow it.
Seems like I won't be buying Skyrim again unfortunately.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I seriously doubt most of GAF hates Fallout 4. Those that do are sure vocal but they don't represent all of gaf-dom.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
What could be the reasoning? Why not offer it?
Unknown?
Member
It shouldn't be hard epic had a conversion program that converted mods in UT3 to PS3 format. Sounds like Bethesda is using Sony as a scapegoat!
As already mentioned there are games on PS4 that use mods.
Leafhopper
Banned
Umm
I don't think they would have come out on stage and said mods would work with the game if they didn't look into the technical reasons before hand. I know their games aren't the best technically but, I think they would have known that much.
Not familiar with Farming Simulator. Is that content created in game a la LBP or is it true modding?
IronLich
Member
Never played Skyrim before, and I passed on PS3 release due to the WONDERFUL saving issues that plagued it, but due to mod support, I was adamant on grabbing PS4 release.
Not so much anymore. Sony was clearly biting off more than they could chew with the sophistication of PC mods.
Not so much anymore. Sony was clearly biting off more than they could chew with the sophistication of PC mods.
Good post.
There's something amiss here.
We need more information before going full ape shit I guess.
Will be interesting to see if those mods have audio on the PS4 as that seems to be one of the stumbling blocks with Fallout 4 mods.
johancruijff
Banned
Psychoward
Banned
Also security issues aren't a thing because Fallout 4 console mods can only interact with Fallout 4 and there is no possibility for linking to external libraries/code that can do literally anything besides interact with Papyrus in Fallout 4 during runtime.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Is it true mod or are players making stuff to share with in game tools?
The 8-Bit Raider
Member
That's a real shame. I actually repurchased Fallout 4 in anticipation of the upcoming Mods....More fool me I guess.
Real talk Bethesda has a terrible track record on Sony platform, they haven't earned the benefit of the doubt. We knew there was technical problems and i'm more inclined to believe this just Bethesda not giving a shit, like they shown in the past to not give a shit about Sony platform.
They will pass the buck on Sony in a minute, cause they know they fucked up.
They will pass the buck on Sony in a minute, cause they know they fucked up.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Fuck Sony and fuck Bethesda.
Fuck Sony for not being more flexible.
Fuck Bethesda for announcing mods on PS4 before they were 100% sure they would happen.
While I can fully believe that Sony is being inflexible and obstinate with this, I also fully believe the following.
Fuck Sony for not being more flexible.
Fuck Bethesda for announcing mods on PS4 before they were 100% sure they would happen.
While I can fully believe that Sony is being inflexible and obstinate with this, I also fully believe the following.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
Source?
The timeline of events makes it sound like they didn't check on the technical details until right down to the wire.
B: mods?
Sony: sure!
B: need to release soon but files don't work.
Sony: they have to be xyz
B: oh. fuck.
wesleyshark
Banned
Lol amazing
Raven77
Member
Goodbye Skyrim Remaster, we hardly knew you.
I would get it on X1 but I doubt it will look as good as it would have on PS4 and without mods on PS4, I have no interest in it.
Has any site done a comparison of the X1 version to the PS4 version of the remaster? Especially considering it will have a PS4 PRO mode right? I know it isn't out yet, just curious.
I would get it on X1 but I doubt it will look as good as it would have on PS4 and without mods on PS4, I have no interest in it.
Has any site done a comparison of the X1 version to the PS4 version of the remaster? Especially considering it will have a PS4 PRO mode right? I know it isn't out yet, just curious.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, I honestly believe they handled it very poorly.
If we're gonna take the perspective of Johnny Q Gamer then most of the discussion on GAF will be pointless because most people here are a tad bit more of gaming enthusiasts compared to Johnny Q. Let's not do that. Neither you nor I are "Johnny Q's"
The console was leaked via multiple retailers before official announcement, people bought it at highly inflated prices and coverage was all over without any official channels even commenting on it, to me the way Sony handled the whole Slim PS4 thing was poor and it could have been handled better. I won't even go into how the slim is still $50 too high and the fact that there's a more powerful box coming out in less than 2 months at just $100 more just about invalidates purchasing a Slim at this time .. that's a different discussion for a different topic.
I dunno. We know Sony supports mods as mentioned in this thread with Unreal Tournament and soon to be Farming Simulator 17. We know there were problems on the backend with getting this implemented as also mentioned in this thread.
I assume Bethesda wants Sony to make changes on their end to support what Bethesda wants to do, and Sony is saying no, they need to figure out a workaround themselves. So Bethesda puts the blame on Sony.
Seeing as how theyve half-assed their PlayStation releases and making sure it isnt a garbage fire, Im betting its more complicated than "Sony says no".
I assume Bethesda wants Sony to make changes on their end to support what Bethesda wants to do, and Sony is saying no, they need to figure out a workaround themselves. So Bethesda puts the blame on Sony.
Seeing as how theyve half-assed their PlayStation releases and making sure it isnt a garbage fire, Im betting its more complicated than "Sony says no".
http://www.farming-simulator.com/newsArticle.php?lang=en&country=us&news_id=39
Unless somehow Giants Software were to suddenly announce that by "consoles" they meant Xbox One and Xbox One S of course.
RustySpoon
Member
So Bethesda can't do the work needed to get the mods into Sony's format and it's Sony's fault?
Virtua Ben
Member
First thought: Sony is reverting back to their old PS3-era selves.
Second thought: They'll change their mind and allow mods after all the backlash.
Second thought: They'll change their mind and allow mods after all the backlash.
wesleyshark
Banned
Nope.
The PlayStation hack was damaging. $599 was damaging. This won't be news. Just like people got over the ps+ price increase after a day.
I'm not ghost painting shit, and never did I say it was everyone. I'm not going back through this whole thread to quote every post(i do plenty of calling out just don't have time for it atm), but I can tell you that there are 3 Sony warriors and and a couple PC ones also. I generally don't pay attention to much that any of them say. A lot of the usernames are very common in these types of threads.
There are legitimate gripes to be had for sure, and I haven't said a word about that, just the proportion of the response. I for some reason bought FO4 on PS4. I knew that I should never get a Bethesda RPG on console because mods re the only thing that makes them fun to me, but I fucked up. This news is slightly annoying, but calling Sony arrogant and 2005 all over again over not allowing mods for technical reasons?
No audio, within the 900mb limit.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
lol.
Unknown?
Member
See? This is Bethesda and they don't give a shit!
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
You don't need to defend Bethesda's honor here. They have fault in this fiasco too.
Plenty of space for quality of life mods, unofficial patches, etc. Why even limited mod support isn't available isn't clear.
Edit:
Huh, so sounds like Sony was offering limited mod support (no new textures, sounds, and a 900mb limit) but Bethesda didn't want that. Don't fucking know why, even with those limitations there are a ton of great quality of life mods that could be used on PS4. Let me reiterate, fuck Bethesda.
What A Time To Be Alive
Member
Nah, it was rumored after KH3 got removed from the Japenese store but it got added back.
Still on track to be released on Xbox.
Virtua Ben
Member
I'd bet on it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
It seems like you are missing the point of the Slim, and who it is targeted to, which is pretty clear to me. If you want more power or a better box for $100, it's not for you. But the audience that just wants the cheapest way to play the games their friends have does exist. It seems all too often people around here can't see that, that they don't represent the mass consumer at all. It's okay to say "the PS4 slim isn't for me", but when that turns into "therefore the ps4 slim isn't for anybody and I don't even understand why it exists!" the disconnect becomes apparent.
Sucks for all PS4 players who have been waiting for this.
Sony really have been putting out lots of shit lately, PR-wise.
I also assume that Bethesda is pretty pissed about this and Sony going forward. It sounds like they already got the whole behind-the-scenes stuff done and as such wasted a bunch of resources.
Sony really have been putting out lots of shit lately, PR-wise.
I also assume that Bethesda is pretty pissed about this and Sony going forward. It sounds like they already got the whole behind-the-scenes stuff done and as such wasted a bunch of resources.
InsaneTiger
Member
That's fucking wrong.
snake_eater_raiden
Member
Sony is once again entering in its PS3 launch era "arrogance" shape and form.
Simply Sami
Member
Have you tried the mods?
Oh wait game isn't even out. So let's wait and see on that scenario.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Unless they start the console on fire, Xbox is now the default best console for Bethesda games, regardless of graphics/performance.
Rellik
Member
You mean like they changed their mind on EA Access?
My money is on security concerns. I hope they speak out about this otherwise we'll never know and they'll just look bad in the end.
Well, mods were coming for F4 and Skyrim too until yesterday. That article is from June, if things stay the same you'd have a point but it doesn't tell anything right now.