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Sony vs Microsoft: The First Party Studios
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StrongBlackVine
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I'm the exact opposite. I buy the majority of Sony's first/second party games.
Ol No Bones
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2015 is gonna be a great year for PS4. X1 lineup isnt a slouch but not quite as solid. Mostly due to Sony games not having much in Holiday 2014. 2016 is gonna be a huge year for Xbox I think.
I did that last gen and found myself having luke warm feelings more often than not. Uncharted is the only franchise that clicked with me. I loved Sony's PS2 era, but the PS3 era just didn't do much for me.
Right now my only plans regarding Sony are to buy a PS4 when Uncharted releases and start packing it up to sell as soon as the credits roll. If The Order turns out well I will try that since I liked RAD's PSP games so much. Nothing else of Sony's gets me excited.
I wish Sony would bring back Jak & Daxter, or create a new franchise like it. I know there is the Ratchet remake, and I love Insomniac, but I'd rather see a brand new adventure.
One of these better be Syphon Filter.
Zeyphersan
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Now that's a nice looking list there. Wish we could see one like that for Xbox as well
LiquidSolid
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After Dead Rising 3 and Sony's involvement in Deep Down, I wouldn't rule out much when it comes to Capcom. They really seem to be struggling. I'd hope that it's Dragon's Dogma but Ono's involvement and the other teases Verendus have given points me more towards the fighting game.
Oh and I'm guessing your comment about the second party term earlier in the thread was directed to me. I actually agree with you, I was just using it to differentiate between internal and external studios.
An Uncharted Collection would be very welcome
It makes much more sense to have an Uncharted Collection since UC 4 is coming next year. That way, everyone would be able to play all 4 Uncharted games on one system.
LOL. Bloodborne is bigger than Ryse, dude. Ryse was nothing more than a watered-down Dynasty Warriors clone with constant QTE's.
Or Yakuza.
Stealthcobra
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Forgot to add galak-z
dragonbane
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Total cost was never reported, nor any relation to Heavy Rain. The 40 million number is the total budget of Heavy Rain, which was heavily marketed across several years. Beyond only got a strong push when it released. We know that the development budget was higher, but for all we know marketing was the same or lower. Heavy Rain made over $100m for Sony with 3 million copies sold (including discounts), so Beyond is somewhere above $50m now most likely (1.5 sales since 6 months). So it probably broke even by now or is already in the green. They celebrated the 1m milestone, which no dev/publisher does when a game bombed hard.
Considering what Sony said about Heavy Rain's sales expectations it's fair to say breaking even is all that matters for Sony when it comes to these types of games.
Head.spawn
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Did you play Demon Souls and GoW3? Those were pretty good too, I agree with you on the rest too, I'm picking one up for Uncharted 4 as well.
I suck at Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, not for me.
I did play and mostly enjoy God of War 3, but it was ultimately disappointing. I think GoW 2 is still the best designed of the series and Chains of Olympus was a lot of fun. GoW 3 looked great, but I was hoping for some major innovation in addition to the impressive graphics. I'm done with the series until they change it up a bit. Getting rid of Kratos would be a welcome change, too.
loaf of bread
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Why would they team up now when Sega has no problem making them on their own? Plus they already have one that hasn't even been released yet.
Yoshi
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Could you also also break down the missing platformer into sub-genre? So is it a collectathon (Mario 64, Banjo, Yoshi's Island, Jak & Daxter 1), a skill-game (2D Marios, Mario Galaxies, Crash Bandicoot, Rayman 2), or a performance platformer (Rayman Legends, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Sonic series)? Since we're talking about Sony, there would also be the fourth option of "experience platformer", where the gameplay mechanics are not the main highlight (think Tearaway, LBP, Puppeteer). Considering this genre always is the most likely to make me buy a platform, this would be very interesting for me. Action-platformer you have already ruled out (and I wouldn't call the likes of Ratchet even a platformer, so I'm fine with that).
It seems more realistic than a Sonic/Shenmue project.
Dreadx_Jecht
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So does anyone know if the new ratchet and clank is basically ratchet 1 with better graphics, or is it a full reboot for a new series?
remember reading somewhere its a rc 1 remake (like halo anniversary) but take this with a grain of salt. im not sure at all.
Its a re-imagining of the story to tie in with the upcoming movie iirc.
4th Chamber
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Microsoft's first party lineup is far more appealing to me, and seems of a higher caliber than Sony's offering.
Any multiplatform game will be better on PC, but if you're a console only owner then PS4 wins out. That's the only thing that makes me reluctant about the One.
Any multiplatform game will be better on PC, but if you're a console only owner then PS4 wins out. That's the only thing that makes me reluctant about the One.
They're not going to release anything Gears related so close to Halo.
I think they'll have another notable exclusive for that period though, maybe another TR style deal.
If anything, most of them will be made with consoles in mind just like with last gen.
redtails64
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The amount of unannounced PS4 exclusives has me thinking that Sony really are doing this for the long run. I'm looking forward to seeing how their upcoming exclsuives do critically.
The way PS4 is selling, I can only imagine how massive the sales gap will be by holiday 2016.
I don't think MS can nab anything notable (timed) to compliment the next Gears.
I hop not id rather they put that kind of money into an ip they can own rather than spending shit tons of cash to keep a game off other consoles for a period of time.
Sony always have more to offer me as they take more risks on smaller games, noway in hell would ms sanction the likes of heavy rain and the shit ton of games we saw at the end of the ps3 life cycle. Its one reason even if the shoe was on the other foot and ms was the better machine with more consoles sold id still have to get a ps4.
We all win in the end though owning all three is going to bring us alot of games to play.
People were saying the same thing for months, then they announced TR as exclusive. Starting from Holiday 2015 and continuing to Holiday 2016 will be the peak of this generation so I think MS are going to go whole in for those periods.
So MS hasn't been "whole in" this past year? Please.
They have the resources to do both.
I'm hoping they invest more in studios as well, I want MS to make a few more acquisitions, as there's a few publishers right now who are handling IP that I care about in a poor way.
travisbickle
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You want MS to buy established IP from other publishers that you think are mishandling it, because MS would treat the IP better?
The wacky world of Hindle carries on unabated!
I agree, but they can and will get more aggressive, especially in those periods I stated.
4th Chamber
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They'll probably run mostly fine, but if my PC is capable enough then these games will run better and Xbox controller support makes things that much easier.
I don't know if this is a serious request (especially after the near unanimous hatred this game garnered on the intertubes), but I would absolutely LOVE this.
MS secured TR as exclusive because they saw how incompetent SE were in handling the series. They think they can do better. I want them to do the same with the likes of Capcom and Eidios.
I'm sick to my back teeth with the way SE treat Eidios and with the way Capcom are handled by incompetent shareholders.
I'm sick to my back teeth with the way SE treat Eidios and with the way Capcom are handled by incompetent shareholders.
You are delusional, have fun with that.
How does MS securing TR as a timed exclusive change how SE is handling the franchise? As far as I've seen, it is still being developed by Crystal Dynamics and published by Square Enix. Nothing seems to have changed behind the scenes, especially considering the belief is that it will only be exclusive for a few months.
Miles Quaritch
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You cannot be serious.
Galactic Barret
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Alot of posters not feeling the PS4/Sony upcoming lineup may be an indication that XBO is gaining more mindshare amoungst hardcore gamers. Right?
Stealth Game + Bend = Syphon Filter (please!!!)
Capcom + Brawler = Power Stone (please!)
Stealth Game + Bend = Syphon Filter (please!!!)
Hyper-fail. Shouldn't troll so blatantly. Thats how bridges get burned.
so, right before consoles were launched, we had those declarations from both platform holders about the number of new ips, number of exclusives and all that. (ex: we will launch 8 new ip within the first year, etc)
anybody has a link back to those lists? it'd be interesting to see how it went, almost a full year later.
anybody has a link back to those lists? it'd be interesting to see how it went, almost a full year later.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
This thread is really making me happy. The amount of Verendus posts and information about things to come is really all I want this early on a monday morning. Really looking forward to the E3, GamesCon and TGS trio next year.
Next up Microsoft securing Devil May Cry from Capcpom? Or, Half-Life from Valve? Sly Cooper from Sony? Can you please inform us how you think Microsoft calls up publishers and explains to them how they're fucking up their IPs? I hope you aren't suggesting that Microsoft has some super programmers, game directors, etc just sitting around that go around helping less skilled studios making their games better.
Next up Microsoft securing Devil May Cry from Capcpom? Or, Half-Life from Valve? Sly Cooper from Sony? Can you please inform us how you think Microsoft calls up publishers and explains to them how they're fucking up their IPs? I hope you aren't suggesting that Microsoft has some super programmers, game directors, etc just sitting around that go around helping less skilled studios making their games better.
By the time that happens, more & more people will be on PS4, & no one will probably care about Xbox One at all (forgive me for saying this, but I can't lie about it).
LMAO.
Miles Quaritch
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Took Sony close to three years last gen to get really aggressive with their exclusive line up.
Very true, though Sony had both Japan & Europe & that the Playstation brand is still stronger than the Xbox brand as a whole.
Microsoft doesn't exactly compare to both Nintendo & Sony when it comes to many 1st party lineups, nor have they shown that they're dedicated towards that.
StrongBlackVine
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See I couldn't care less about Jak & Daxter, Ratchet or Crash. I don't like cartoon character games. The more realistic the better.
"more and more will be on ps4, and no one will care for xbone, at all?"
like, the LMAO that you posted is the perfect reply to the first part of your post..
That was a reply to Hindle's ridiculous comment (his second comment).
But I can't exactly lie about it. The only thing that Xbox One's got going is Halo.
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