Well excuuuuse me princess. Hrmm, well, guess that line can work with female link.
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Sorry Nintendo, we've decided that Link is officially a girl
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Well excuuuuse me princess. Hrmm, well, guess that line can work with female link.
RedAssedApe
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lol random thread....immediately thought of that rocketjump video of link breaking pots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXmMQJMFL_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXmMQJMFL_I
DICKS AHOY
Banned
never trust someone who can't blink
cutmeamango
Banned
But now the game is very sexist because the old man says it's dangerous for her to go alone.
And an oppressive patriarchy, because of course a man has to rule the tribe of women.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I don't understand why people are confused about this. Link is a girl. Link has always been a girl.
I wish people would stop trying to censor Miyamoto and Aonuma's artistic creative freedom vision in which Link is and has always been a girl.
Apparently censorship is still alive and well in 2015. "Link isn't a girl!"
Disgusting.
The Hermit
Member
ISnt the WiiU Zelda version basically a girl?
A Link to the Past
Banned
Link has always been one of my favourite female protagonists
The Albatross
Member
Link is a dog
No. People were easily fooled by photoshops, though.
Aonuma: laughs
QueenOfThorns
Member
Yes.
Everything I've seen with people saying that Link somehow has deep characterization begins and ends with. "He's lazy at the start, but becomes a hero at the end." "He was sad when that sad thing happened" By all means it seems that Link's personality changes with every Zelda game by a bit. Wind Waker Link was different from Skyward Sword Link, so....
How much power do you think I have? Who gives a shit if I say Link should be a girl? It won't matter unless someone at Nintendo listens. Until then, I'm not really censoring art, or destroying the developer's wishes or intentions. What I say means nothing. What I want means nothing. When I say "should" I of course means that's what I would love for them to do, but it's an impossible dream because I know in the end they probably won't. It's the same way for any wishlist a fan will make for a game. They want the game to be different from how the developer designed it. I will argue till the end of my days that Link isn't a very well defined character. They add little things with them reacting to things, or the little cartoon romance they had with Zelda in Skyward Sword, but that's really temporary. That can and will change with the new games they release.
What a developer wants in the end is what's going to happen. Because, again, they hold all the power.
DICKS AHOY
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link is racially misappropriating kokiri when he's actually hylian
GAF is the kid, Evilore is the Professor.
Edit: Or maybe Link is the kid, and GAF is the Professor, and Evilore is the assistant.
Or...
you know what, I don't know anymore, either.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I like the subtle bite mark on that dog's ass at the bottom.
It's all canon.
liliththepale
Banned
FF Seraphim
Member
Can Link be the adorable puppy?
More like her.
I would only accept a Female Link if the game resulted in a Sleepaway Camp scenario.
Aeriscloud
Banned
We? Like as in the royal we?
Alright. Just wanted to know.
Eh, it's different than that. Link sometimes never actually even evolves as a character in some games. This holds true for most of the past Zelda games and even some of the newer ones. After a certain point, it's honestly really indistinguishable, Link became an actual character. It was around this time that Link was put into positions that showed his personality. So I have to disagree there.
> WW/LoZ DS game duology gave Link traits first that made him more than just a projection of the play character. He visibily started showing emotion to certain scenes, and was given personality quirks.
> SS/Twiglight Princess also showed this progression coming off in a more general way. Link felt emotions, did things that the player might not have wanted Link to do, and started acting as an actual character rather than an adventurer with Link as a projection.
This is also the time in which HH came out and there was a clear effort in making the "lore" of LoZ a thing, making Link more specifically the Hero of Time. This no longer made the player the one projecting onto an avatar but a hero, Link going through it.
Of course, this doesn't discount that Zelda or FeMC Link, but it does shown that Link is a character and is no longer just meant to be an avatar as he was in OG Zelda.
Woah, shit dude. We're just discussing something on a message board, and I'm being pretty calm about it.
I, for one, am not convincing you of that. The only thing I've said is that I think it's unfair that the allegations of Link being a boy as "sexist" or something that
"should" change has no real basis or precedent for this claim to be made. It's totally fine to want a Female Link. I want a female Link.
Again, I know what you meant and that's why I was speaking more generally to other users who believed that it would be Nintendo's right to make Link a progressive character as he is apparently just a blank slate fully interchangeable MC who can even not wear a green tunic and just be a C-a-C. Also a female version of link has been made in the past and will finally be playable in HW. I honestly think it's a matter of time before we get a playable FeMC.
But again, there is a very clear decade long effort to make him one.
Train of Midnight
Banned
I didn't know you could just decide that.
QueenOfThorns
Member
I can't do the quote thing again, I don't know how people can do that. So consider me 90 years old and unable to understand how internet forums work.
I didn't type that with any like ill intent or anything. It's just that I've probably replied to 80 things about the developers vision and how I want to limit their freedom of expression and take away all their power and such.
I didn't type that with any like ill intent or anything. It's just that I've probably replied to 80 things about the developers vision and how I want to limit their freedom of expression and take away all their power and such.
InfiniteBento
Member
I like this a lot more than the other way around tbh.
Eh, it's best to ignore them, to be honest.
A lot of this has to deal with so many people being attached to certain points in people's arguments that it never gets into an actual discussion that doesn't just devolve into a pure semantics game or miscommunication.
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We all know that people who like LoZ at the end of the day will go out and buy a LoZ title that has a girl as the main character.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
It wouldn't have to be this way Nintendo, if only you had given your best female protagonist the attention she deserved.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Which one is Link again? The one with the green hat and a 'L' on it right?
Tanoooki
Member
Why does sexual identity matter in a game where you don't have any romantic relationships?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
About that Yuga guy...
QueenOfThorns
Member
girls wanna go out and have adventures in hyrule as themselves.
we're talking gender identity, i think you got that confused with sexual orientation.
though keep the romance from skyward sword and have link and princess zelda still hook up and it'd be the best game ever. so sure, can add that to the list.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Sexual identity is if you're a boy or girl.
No, that's green Mario.
HyperCubed4
Member
Neither did I.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm certain Link is canonically a male. I mean, the developer's response to different genders (or is it sexes?) for the main characters isn't exactly a good one, but if the story says he's male, I don't know what to say.
Obviously, there's nothing wrong with wanting to play as a female swords...person. The Scythian from Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery is female, gender isn't exactly a major role in the game and it's obviously inspired by Legend of Zelda. Making Link a female wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
The Scythian
The
At the same time, if the devs want to make the creative choice to have Link as a male, I don't see a problem with that.
Said it in the other thread, I'll say it here too:
Its a multiplayer "Redux" of link between worlds
Why would they create extra art for a second playable charater?
( and no, the different links arent different characters, its the same character with the hue shifted on the tunic)
Its a multiplayer "Redux" of link between worlds
Why would they create extra art for a second playable charater?
( and no, the different links arent different characters, its the same character with the hue shifted on the tunic)
I might be mis-remembering things from E3 but I believe everyone in the town wants to be a hero like Link, and the three heroes for multiplayer are just some adventurers who want to be just like Link.
That's their justification for them just being different shades of the same model.
Honestly, aside from the "sacred lore", they're just reusing assets and using weird explanations for it as they did in Four Swords.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Damn