I'm a huge JRPG fan and loved Stick of Truth. I'm also a huge fan of older South Park (seasons 1-10). Not buying this. And I wouldn't call it whining.I bet many people whining about this joke will still buy the game sooo
I bet many people whining about this joke will still buy the game sooo
Maybe the contrast is off on my iPad, but those lips are incredibly less noticable than the two prior pictures posted of cartoon humans. The fact you needed an arrow I think proves that. I think some people are so comfy in life they find meaningless things to complain about.
I dont think you can call her blackfaced since the whole fishs body was black. Its weird to talk about blackface of a cartoon fish, but if were going to, at least be accurate. It wasnt just her face. And based on Google image searches, it looks like blackface tends to be overtly racist in how lips are presented. That wasnt the case here either. They werent a bright red. It seemed like normal skin tone color for a black cartoon fish, not exaggerated in color or size.
Maybe the contrast is off on my iPad, but those lips are incredibly less noticable than the two prior pictures posted of cartoon humans. The fact you needed an arrow I think proves that.
This should be in the op or something. Seems like a lot of people are unaware what others are upset about.
I wouldn't call that homophobic as such, just juvenile. Bear in mind most of the content is written to be from a child's perspective.
I dont think you can call her blackfaced since the whole fishs body was black. Its weird to talk about blackface of a cartoon fish, but if were going to, at least be accurate. It wasnt just her face. And based on Google image searches, it looks like blackface tends to be overtly racist in how lips are presented. That wasnt the case here either. They werent a bright red. It seemed like normal skin tone color for a black cartoon fish, not exaggerated in color or size.
And the FISH has lips that look like that human? I mentioned lips in my post. Whyd you skim over that? This is a waste of time lol. I dont care if youre upset.
I bet many people whining about this joke will still buy the game sooo
We just had a thread asking for Death stranding to be as crazy as possible. That game is benign by comparison and the point of the game is what's important.Have you seen the trailer? The flying pegasus? The music? It was closer to weird on a weird-normal spectrum to me. Im not religious at all. Maybe thats why.
Yea, it's weird to compare how you would honor your mother yes.No, it's not the concept of his mum going to heaven I have any problem with.
It's the fact that you, the player, are actually controlling his mum flying through the skies on her way to heaven riding a horse with wings while avoiding obstacles, à la Flappy Bird.
I guess I'm the weird one, because I wouldn't "honour" my mum's memory like that.
Nah, I'm gonna buy Wolfenstein instead. Fuck this game.I bet many people whining about this joke will still buy the game sooo
I bet many people whining about this joke will still buy the game sooo
The only real thing you can say about this is
yeah it plays on old racist caricatures ... no shit
but it's South Park bruh
It's literally what they do to everyone and every race.
No subject is immune. Remember the first game where you perform an abortion on a grown man. The same game with little boys getting anally raped by aliens.
Joke is in bad taste, but they've done plenty of jokes before in bad taste. The racist looking fish though, oof. Can't defend that. I'll still get it, but I hope they patch that.
I think the joke would fall in the absurdity of the set upExcept again, all those situations normally have a punchline.
What's the joke here that required Donda West to be portrayed like that?
Because none of the people who keep defending this shit seem to have an answer for that.
I think the joke would fall in the absurdity of the set up
A gay fish .. Kanye West
Rainbow farting unicorn
Aquaman or Seaman for no reason
Flappy bird knock off to get a dead fish to heaven
who thinks of this shit
It's fucking hilarious to make light of someone with mental health issues stemming from the trauma of losing their mother via tragic happenstance. What a fucking knee slapper to, of all fucking things, make fun of someone loving and paying tribute to the person that gave them life.
Someone that posts shit like this regularly
AND OF COURSE they make her look and sound like a fucking minstrel character. Bu-bu gay fish(...) is green because it's a callback! So why isn't his mother green too?
The only real thing you can say about this is
yeah it plays on old racist caricatures ... no shit
but it's South Park bruh
It's literally what they do to everyone and every race.
No subject is immune. Remember the first game where you perform an abortion on a grown man. The same game with little boys getting anally raped by aliens.
That wasn't the question.
What was the joke in depicting Donda West as a blackfaced mammy?
Throwing absurd shit with some racist imagery into a blender and drinking a shit comedy smoothie is some low bar, Seth MacFarlane level shit. There isn't any framework of a joke in place aside from "remember that game Kanye was making? Didn't that look dumb?" It's baffling that anyone actually wants to go to bat for this trailer on pretty much any level.I think the joke would be the absurdity of the set up
A gay fish .. Kanye West
Rainbow farting unicorn
Aquaman or Seaman for no reason
Flappy bird knock off to get a dead fish to heaven
who thinks of this shit
The only real thing you can say about this is
yeah it plays on old racist caricatures ... no shit
but it's South Park bruh
It's literally what they do to everyone and every race.
No subject is immune. Remember the first game where you perform an abortion on a grown man. The same game with little boys getting anally raped by aliens.
How are people still trotting out this defense?
As much as Kanye West annoys the piss out of me, I have always had respect for the real love he's consistently shown for his mother. To make fun of Donda, a person who has been dead for years and never did anything bad in her life that we know of, who was a loving mother and a respected professor, whose son is still deeply affected by her death- which has likely been a major cause of his mental health issues- and to make her a blackface character.... fuck them. Seriously, fuck them.
There is no point. It makes no sense.
It's baffling that anyone actually wants to go to bat for this trailer on pretty much any level.
I'm glad you understand this much at least.There is no point. It makes no sense.
im not comparing the two are the samePlease tell me you understand the difference between the absurdity of a male abortion or alien probing and the use of a racist caricature that existed for decades to further dehumanise the black populace of america after they'd been seen as an inferior race for centuries?
Not all subjects are immune. Especially when you're two straight, white guys. There's a line to be drawn and even comedians who are aware of it like Mel Brooks steeped over it sometimes when joking about minorities different to them.
Neogaf, it's 2017, what the fuck is up with people thinking unprompted blackface fish is so damn funny?
Its racism was usually used as a means to illustrate the problems with racism. A character who is supposed to be a "bad" character (Cartman) would exhibit frequent racist tendencies. Here this is just straight unprompted racism without any contextual justification.
it's hilarious because it's meant to mock reality. That's what comedy is. Mocking reality.
Once you start putting up limitations, you ruin the entire purpose of the genre.
For example:
Imagine going to a play, all actors are professionally trained in drama, the play is meant to be a tragedy, but no facial expressions and no tonal changes to reflect mood are allowed.
or
You're watching Nascar, but all drivers have to put their car in neutral and push it around the track because they can't use gas.
or my favorite example:
"YOU HAVE FREE SPEECH*"
* - you can't say this, this, this, this, this, or this. aka you don't actually have free speech.
At some point, comedy is going to offend someone at some level. If you watch South Park, you know for a fact that they don't put restrictions (or prefer not to put restrictions). They make fun of everyone and everything.
Is there anything to the joke beyond calling Kanye gay and blackface? Because I don't get why this is being defended or why it's acceptable from two straight white guys.
This has nothing to do with free speech. Free speech also doesn't apply to everything:it's hilarious because it's meant to mock reality. That's what comedy is. Mocking reality.
Once you start putting up limitations, you ruin the entire purpose of the genre.
For example:
Imagine going to a play, all actors are professionally trained in drama, the play is meant to be a tragedy, but no facial expressions and no tonal changes to reflect mood are allowed.
or
You're watching Nascar, but all drivers have to put their car in neutral and push it around the track because they can't use gas.
or my favorite example:
"YOU HAVE FREE SPEECH*"
* - you can't say this, this, this, this, this, or this. aka you don't actually have free speech.
At some point, comedy is going to offend someone at some level. If you watch South Park, you know for a fact that they don't put restrictions (or prefer not to put restrictions). They make fun of everyone and everything.