Gentleman Jack
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No, this is me stating they've covered worst stuff before.
The objection is to the racist caricature. But it's okay, we get it, you don't care if someone is being racist. Do you.
No, this is me stating they've covered worst stuff before.
The objection is to the racist caricature. But it's okay, we get it, you don't care if someone is being racist. Do you.
Is that really the worst thing in the world to you or is it just your agenda?
It's my primary objection to the trailer. Are you even reading the thread?
It's my primary objection to the trailer. Are you even reading the thread?
Are you reading my posts?
It is not the worst topic they have covered before, can you admit that?
Are you reading my posts?
It is not the worst topic they have covered before, can you admit that?
Why make his mom a black fish with lipstick? That makes no freaking sense.
Especially when he's a green fish. Is there a context for this bs?
If you're not bothered by racism then fine
I'm saying it's not relevant how low-brow they've gone in the past. The times I found South Park funny and tastless, they were employing genuine satire of events or personalities. If they want to go after Kanye for being a humorless egomaniac they can probably go as low as they want and I wouldn't bat much of an eye at it because yeah, they already have the gay fish episode on it. They depict Bono as a literal piece of shit. That's what I've always known them for and when I want to say 'that's South Park' that's the level of comedy I'm referring to. Them putting a "gay fish" into a video game feels like a lazy callback since it loses all of the context that made it satire in the first place, but whatever.
In this case, nothing about Donda West's depiction is in the context of their past shots at satire. They've transformed her into a mammy. I haven't much watched South Park since around the same time I stopped watching The Simpsons, but this blackface fish is aimed directly at a target that is not also the subject of satire for her own behavior or stated beliefs. They just wanted to call Kanye's mom a N*****. That's it. That's the entire joke. If they've done that in the past then the ~6-7 seasons of South Park I'm in the dark on represents something much, much worse and indefensible than I could have imagined.
I know you don't care. I know a lot of posters here are doubling down on their support of this trailer, this game and this imagery. I even know there's plenty of people in here laughing at 'the salt' or the 'hysterical outrage,' but I can easily dismiss that as a lot of immature bullshit and have generally resisted responding to it because this thread is more noise than signal as it is.
As such I don't know why I owe you where I place this on the spectrum of 'they've done worse' because I've never, ever seen them go this far before. And I'm not okay with it.
No, you can't pick and choose what they go after, there would have been episodes like drawing Mohammed which you may have been fine with which upset others.
Either enjoy the ride or get off, they go after everything.
This is a shit escapist line, if you're not bothered by everything else they've done then you haven't been paying attention, this is South Park and they go after everything. Matt and Trey wrote the game and have heavy involvement with everything outside of the coding itself.
No, you can't pick and choose what they go after, there would have been episodes like drawing Mohammed which you may have been fine with which upset others.
Either enjoy the ride or get off, they go after everything.
Yeah ok, I didn't think you'd even try to engage with the words I said instead of whatever strawman of me you've already decided upon.
I have no idea what they were going for,
She died during complications from plastic surgery
And if you die during unesaceey surgery...
This is a shit escapist line, if you're not bothered by everything else they've done then you haven't been paying attention, this is South Park and they go after everything. Matt and Trey wrote the game and have heavy involvement with everything outside of the coding itself.
No, you can't pick and choose what they go after, there would have been episodes like drawing Mohammed which you may have been fine with which upset others.
Either enjoy the ride or get off, they go after everything.
What "did they go after" here?
What's the point of that mammy joke?
What "did they go after" here?
What's the point of that mammy joke?
2. Why do you need a point?
Dude...
1. Depicting Muhammad is considered as an insult to all muslims.
2.Why do you need a point?
The joke is "fuck this uppity nigger and his dead mom" and nothing more
That's it, and several people in here have stated outright that it's good enough for them
Just be honest
1. Depicting Muhammad is considered as an insult to all muslims.
2.Why do you need a point?
I don't get offended by South Park to be honest with you. As someone of a mixed background this is not really something I care about. I'll play their game when I finish the first one.
They have made more than a couple tasteless pranks throughout their history. It's nothing new. They do it to black and white people all the time. Mostly they attack white celebrities in horrifying ways.
I don't particularly like when they get super mean though. It just comes off as weird.
Okay, but maybe stick to attacking Kanye and not his deceased mother. All while portraying her as a mammy.
I mean, it isn't that hard.
Dude...
Yes, we fucking need the point of a tacky ass Mammy caricature. We know YOU don't care, but shit is offensive, tasteless, and not even relevant to the punchline they were trying to deliver.
Not everything Matt and Trey shits out is gold. Y'all need to stop drinking from their toilet bowl.
They do a lot of things without a point, why start now? Why was Steve Irwin in hell? What was that point?
They do a lot of things without a point, why start now? Why was Steve Irwin in hell? What was that point?
They do a lot of things without a point, why start now? Why was Steve Irwin in hell? What was that point?
Yeah, thats exactly how it looked.The joke is "fuck this uppity nigger and his dead mom" and nothing more
If they made the mom a green fish, would that fix it?
We're not talking about Steve Irwin, we're talking about Mammy caricature. But it figures you have no argument; stop trying to speak for them. In this case, they're just two dumbass white men using Jim Crow bullshit, to humiliate a deceased black woman. If that's the hill you want to die on, sure, what's the point yeah?
There actually is a point--South Park Hell, at least originally, is where almost everybody goes; I think when the show started they went the "only Mormons go to Heaven" route as a commentary on some of the incompatibilities built into Christian religion. They actually make a point of stuffing people into Hell that you wouldn't necessarily expect (Princess Diana, Gandhi IIRC.) The joke, then, is that perfectly decent people end up in Hell because the rules for getting into Heaven are dumb. And, IIRC, the show directly addresses the tastelessness of the portrayal of Irwin in hell. It's a component of the overall episode.
Likewise, what the show ended up doing with Isaac Hayes was essentially a statement on the impact Scientology can have on people. South Park isn't exactly high art, and it's often frustrating, but it's almost always operating from a very distinct POV.
Here the joke begins and ends with a racist caricature. There's no there there.
Took me TEN YEARS to pick up on the movie's title of "bigger, longer, and uncut".
If the past 11 pages haven't provided you with reasons why people are unhappy, you're one of two things:Can't wait. Really shocked to see some gaffers offended.
There is no way you're actually shocked.Can't wait. Really shocked to see some gaffers offended.
Can't wait. Really shocked to see some gaffers offended.
Can't wait. Really shocked to see some gaffers offended.
Can't wait. Really shocked to see some gaffers offended.