MidnightCowboy
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I will say tho, defending Spider-Man 3 is not a hill worth dying on lol it's not really great, I guess I just give it a pass because it makes me laugh
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Spider-Man 2 is the GOAT Comic Book Movie
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my man
Nerdkiller
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That's an odd way to spell elevated train scene.
Oh good, I guess we can discount the ASM movies from the conversation then.
I disliked it because it was dumb as shit. Same reason I hated the Raindrops keep falling on my head sequence. Serious or not, shit was dumb
I had to watch 3 separate youtube clips to get this sequence in its entirety.
They have a great Spidey, great suits(the backpack on Spider-Man is inspired and really grounds him) best looking swinging and cinematography. These scenes are more Spider-Man than the entirety of the Raimi series:
Thief Scene
Burning Car taking off the mask has a point!
Studio decision ruined what could've been great, but of course it's not in the running.
hipsterpants
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Seeing all the CW praise in here isn't surprising, but that movie was legitimately my biggest disappointment in years and almost killed my interest to see any more MCU movies in theaters. I think the only part of the movie I liked was the car scene with Bucky/Falcon and Giant Man being Giant Man.
I think it's impressive, considering what came afterwards (and reading about the scripts being thrown out beforehand) how un-corporate the movie feels. It's something that bogs down my enjoyment of the MCU, no matter how good the movie. Like Spidey in Civil War. Good scenes and it was pretty organic in terms of the plot but the whole time I was watching I couldn't stop thinking about how I was just watching a huge advertisement for Homecoming. It actively took me out of the movie.
Raimi truly is the best. Evil Dead 2 is probably my favorite movie of all time as well.
I think it's impressive, considering what came afterwards (and reading about the scripts being thrown out beforehand) how un-corporate the movie feels. It's something that bogs down my enjoyment of the MCU, no matter how good the movie. Like Spidey in Civil War. Good scenes and it was pretty organic in terms of the plot but the whole time I was watching I couldn't stop thinking about how I was just watching a huge advertisement for Homecoming. It actively took me out of the movie.
Raimi truly is the best. Evil Dead 2 is probably my favorite movie of all time as well.
Nope, ASM is the best Spider-Man movie
Same way Man of Steel is the best Superman movie
And I'm deadass serious
I don't disagree, but it's not GOAT comic book movie, the LIzard youtubing his plan prevents that.
Be shocked all you want, Man of Steel is the first time I liked Superman all the way through. Nostalgia don't affect me at all
Haloid1177
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Leveling an entire city was all it took for ya huh.
ASM is like the polar opposite of raimi's stuff
with raimi's spider man movies (1 and 2 specifically) they botched pete, spidey and mj hard but did well with the villains and some of the supporting cast (jjj is so good)
whereas with ASM (I haven't watched the second one) they did well with pete, spidey, and gwen but botched everything else hard
It doesn't affect me either. I'm not nostalgic whatsoever for the original Superman.
All the same...
Superman didn't level shit except for Smallville, those fight scense were great and I like Cavill as Superman.
if given more time and less interference, ASM and ASM 2 could've been A1
It doesn't affect me either. I'm not nostalgic whatsoever for the original Superman.
All the same...
They good
The absolute best part about the ASM series is the little lights when he uses his webslingers. I have a mini nerdgasm everytime I see it. And if you want actual camp, ASM2 is for you. Jamie Foxx has a ball as Electro, him and Dehaan have one really standout scene together.The electronic music and light shows representing his mentality are icing the on the cake. Paul Giamatti does get robbed of having his own full arc, but he does great in the time allotted.
I like you
This and Iron Man.
You wanna know what's better than Iron Man? Iron Man 3
brandonh83
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Spider-man 2 and ASM are pretty much my two favorites. Also ASM2 defense force. Not many of us but who fuckin cares.
yeah gadgetry was always one of my favorite aspects of spider man. loved the sound his web shooters made too with that camera flash sound.
I'll get around to watching asm2 someday. right now I feel like it'll be after homecoming comes out. I need to see the light at the end of the tunnel first lol
watching ASM2 for the first time after Homecoming sounds like a terrible idea to me
DriftingSpirit
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Dark Knight edges it but it is definitely among the GOAT.
yeah maybe
maybe I'll just re-watch all of them. I've been actively avoiding asm2 tbh, as much as I liked aspects of the first one asm soured me.
secretanchitman
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Absolutely agreed OP - one of my favorite movies of all time. Spider-Man 1 is also pretty damn good.
Even though Spider-Man 3 is generally hated, I liked it for what it was (and for what Sam Raimi could do under the pressure of Sony wanting him to crank out a sequel pretty quickly).
Even though Spider-Man 3 is generally hated, I liked it for what it was (and for what Sam Raimi could do under the pressure of Sony wanting him to crank out a sequel pretty quickly).
meh I think folks are way too harsh on ASM2. There's some great spidey action in there and despite being rushed I like the Green Goblin stuff in the end.
This is exactly what I was thinking lol. As much as I love the ASM for what it is, watching them after the Holland experience doesn't sound wise. It might end up like watching the aformentioned 70s cap movies or 90s nick fury movies after the modern comic boom, you'll wonder why they even tried til now.
ViewtifulJC
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People aren't harsh on ASM2 enough. Its easily worse than any comic book movie this year, and Im including TMNT2 in this.
Spider-Man 2 tho, :wow: Great stuff.
Spider-Man 2 tho, :wow: Great stuff.
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
The Lizard in general prevents that. That might have been some of the worst CG I've seen in a blockbuster in recent memory.
Subpar Spatula
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It's good you attribute awesome to good.
You like awesome movies, cool, cooler people like interesting and well made movies.
bananafactory
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I think the vast majority of people would describe Civil War as interesting and well made. You're going to have to accept being an outlier
brandonh83
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No. Okay it's out of hand now lol
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Nerdkiller
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I know, YouTube is a pain to get good quality videos of this.
Ehhh, first video was pretty much just Garfield's Parker but with the mask on in the sense that he was already a somewhat confident figure who happens to stand up against the bully, which undercuts the whole idea of Spiderman being a vessel for where Parker can express himself.
The second one...well, it's good on its own (which is saying a lot, considering just how terrible the rest of the movie is), but is later undermined by the whole crane scene where we see the father of the rescued kid attempt to help Spidey by trying to form a path of sorts to help him get where he needs to go in a desperate attempt to evoke the bridge and train scenes of Spidey 1 and 2 but not really getting as to why those scenes worked in the first place.
And it wouldn't be the last time that that ASM movies would ruin a more intimate scene. In ASM2, we'd see Pete stop some bullies going after a kid and his science project. Later, we would see that same kid do something as stupid as stand up to the Rhino while in his Spidey suit in the end of the movie. If that was their attempt at trying to make Spiderman as something inspirational, then they absolutely failed at that.
it's 3 times better than suicide squad
Word, ASM 2 is good, but at the same time, gwen's death was traumatic enough for me to never want to watch the movie again, though I've seen it a few times.
The absolute best part of ASM2 is when he's sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUYl2XaUang
Just his outfit alone is so on point.
I even liked how the web turned into a little hand trying to reach for her, I ate it up
But that's literally spider-man. The city is his sidekick. And as terrible as the crane scene plays out(the exposition is Nolan level bad), it hits this point home really well.
I did too, I was tearing up as it was happening. People knock it and say its an old used scenario, but to see it cinematically was a gut punch.
When Panther told Steven Grant Rogers "As a warrior and as a king, how long do you think you can keep him from me?"
I said this can't be real...
GIANKRATOS
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Agree, still the best for me.
Nerdkiller
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That was the case for the first two Raimi movies as well with the bridge and train scenes. And if you want to know more about how those scenes were impactful, you need to look no further than MovieBob's Really That Good episode of the first two Spiderman movies. This bit in particular. It takes a while to get to the scenes described, but I feel the full context is important.
iPaul93
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The ending alone can't save a mediocre movie like this.
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