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Square Enix now making their handheld games as multiplatform handheld/mobile games
- Thread starter Nirolak
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I agree. This will honestly just make me pray my anticipated games will be for PS4 instead of NX. I don't know if I could bear another Final Fantasy VI mobile remake.
Toadthemushroom
Member
I guess this is where NX's hybrid nature might come in handy -- if it is close to Xbox One in terms of the visual quality and scope of games it can deliver, then it'll probably get the best of both worlds: Well optimised versions of Square Enix's console games, and ports of the Unity stuff for "dedicated handhelds and mobile".
Which will probably be digital-only titles anyway like Adventures of Mana and Romancing SaGa 2 were. Can't see them making their way on to 32GB game cards.
It still makes me sad how things have changed over the last six years. Software is a commodity, certain types of games have been marginalised and users are divided across many differing platforms instead of a few focused ones.
We know Breath of the Wild and DQXI will be on NX. Do they strike you as traditional handheld experience? NX will be a downgraded console, not an upgraded handheld. And they will charge their games $60. Traditional handheld games will either go to mobile or disappear.
I love my handhelds, mind you, but the fate of dedicated handheld is not up to 3rd party.
Kresnik258
Member
Isn't this something they've been dabbling with for years anyway? All the DQ games found their way to mobile including VII and VIII 3DS ports. Chaos Rings 3 was Vita/mobile; as were Adventures of Mana; Rise of Mana; Romancing SaGa 2 etc.
if anything I see this as an improvement over the current situation. The vast majority of their stuff is for mobile anyway and it's just bits and pieces that make their way to handhelds. If they're doing both as a matter of procedure, then that's more than dedicated handhelds are getting now.
I also wonder how this affects games like Dragon Quest Builders/Heroes 2, that are home console games with handheld ports. Are they going to be home console/handheld/mobile going forward?
if anything I see this as an improvement over the current situation. The vast majority of their stuff is for mobile anyway and it's just bits and pieces that make their way to handhelds. If they're doing both as a matter of procedure, then that's more than dedicated handhelds are getting now.
I also wonder how this affects games like Dragon Quest Builders/Heroes 2, that are home console games with handheld ports. Are they going to be home console/handheld/mobile going forward?
Final Fantasy Explorers is the last handheld exclusive they self published I believe. They are publishing a few multiplatform games on Vita.
Man you have Breath of the wild? Awesome!
How's the last boss?
What's the limit of crafting?
What are the towns NPC like?
Vita might well go on just on fumes and lack of a REAL successor. 3DS will probably be run over by the NX sooner than later.
Battlechili
Banned
As long as they don't move entirely to mobile and continue to release games on the Vita/3DS, I'm happy.
Grrrrr
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
You're confused. An enhanced version of DQVIII on 3DS was released in Japan (and is coming West) more than three years after the mobile version. That mobile version was an earlier port.
It's out in Japan but we juuuust got the 3DS one now so I wouldn't hold your breath
Your new TWEWY will be a time-gated gacha where you buy pins for real money.
The touchscreen gestures will be simplified into taps and the rest of the mechanics will be watered down for the mobile audience.
Battlechili
Banned
Do I need to know the last boss, the limit of crafting and the towns to tell if it's a console game or a handheld game?
You can have virtual dpads and buttons or pair a controller on mobile, you know...
BronsonLee
Member
I'll fucking tape two phones together to get a TWEWY sequel
Came out last year.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
DQXI 3DS will definitely be, as it's not streaming (DQX is on 3DS), and no game has gone over the 4 GB limit (which might be a FAT32 thing or just cost). So, that version ported to mobile should be fine.
Ōkami;217906967 said:
Yeah I know, absolutely no way that's coming out anytime soon in the West. Nintendo would not have gotten involved if it weren't exclusive for a time, it'd be a waste of money and resources otherwise.
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, that's bullshit. I can still fire up my old GBA games if I want, and there's no compatibility issue at all, whereas with their mobile experiences--especially on Android--I always have to go through the ol' song and dance of having it work poorly, then not at all because of root detection and/or server handshake issue, and then working again on the same device and same OS version.
MulderYuffie
Member
I really don't know how to feel about this.
Kresnik258
Member
It appears I was confused about that, but it doesn't really change the point I was making
Most rediculous statement i seen on Gaf Imo
If this actually means bringing games of the quality and depth of Bravely Default to more platforms, I see this as a good thing. These games don't necessarily need to suffer in their core design to e.g. accommodate lots of different input methods.
If it means infesting more platforms with gacha crap then, well, they can keep those.
If it means infesting more platforms with gacha crap then, well, they can keep those.
Honestly, if the list of platforms includes PC? That one. Call it a selfish perspective, but I can play it on the output device I want, with any input device I'm comfortable with, while smoothing over any potential technical hiccups by virtue of outperforming most of the other target devices by an order of magnitude or even more.
cartman414
Member
I wish they cared enough to go back and smooth out any issues with the originals. 3D FFIII is still limited to 3/4 monster parties.
Man, if shit like the GDP WIN takes off and we actually get handheld PC gaming, it could be dope. We already have $99 tablets that can run a surprising array of PC games including stuff like Skyrim.
My ideal scenario is that we get more stuff like GDP WIN to the point where a lot of PC games are specifically optimized for them (or at least Windows tablets). Not AAA PC games, but indie and other small-budget games. Square Enix releases stuff on the level of Bravely Default or the Dragon Quest ports on Steam (like it did with the Final Fantasy ports). You install Steam on these handhelds and just play those games that way.
I guess in order for that kind of thing to take off it would have to be popular in Japan first, which I'm not sure is feasible. I believe that if dedicated handheld ever survives or comes back from the dead though, it'll be as a portable form of a bigger platform. Imagine if Sony, after several more years of supporting a PlayStation platform that supports multiple pieces of hardware including the PS4 and PS4 Pro, releases a miniaturized form factor that's basically a handheld which plays digital PS4 games. The existing library of indie PS4 games would be perfect for such a device. Developers who want to could just keep making games optimized to support both the handheld and console devices.
R10Neymarfan
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It's a timed exclusive so you never kniw
infiniteloop
Member
great news, and the points they outline make sense. Hope other developers follow.
Toadthemushroom
Member
I was under the assumption that Square Enix was distinctly referring to portable games, which will be built for the lowest common demoninator (low end Android phones) and thus won't actually scale up very nice on PC at all. Just look at how FFVI has the same field of view as the GBA game and the same menus, or how Dragon Quest VIII on Android is missing a bunch of level furniture, lighting, and even stuff like a moving sun in the sky.
Like you mentioned above my quote though, if they are referring to games of the same quality as Bravely Default then yeah, that would be great, but I'm fairly certain those will be separate, much like how I Am Setsuna was a PS4/PC production primarily (Vita version runs like crap).
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Deleted member 465307
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I guess this means we'll likely see more I Am Setsunas and Bravely games, which doesn't sound bad to me if this initiative enables the development of more games like that. I just hope S-E continues to make some handheld games that focus on handheld systems and thus don't limit their design because of smartphones' lack of buttons.
It would still hold back their handheld games though (especially on NX), since they'll need to take mobile constraints into consideration.
It's surprising to me how Chaos Rings 3 hasn't gone on sale even once yet on iOS. Wonder how are the sales for that one.
And yes, give me TWEWY 2 goddamnit.
edit: just noticed that they have recently pulled both Chaos Rings 1 and 2 from the App Store. I appreciate how SE views the mobile market for the most part, but their longterm support seems to continue to be on shaky ground.
And yes, give me TWEWY 2 goddamnit.
edit: just noticed that they have recently pulled both Chaos Rings 1 and 2 from the App Store. I appreciate how SE views the mobile market for the most part, but their longterm support seems to continue to be on shaky ground.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I don't have any problem with this whatsoevermore games on more platforms is great for everyone involvedas long as the games themselves aren't compromised to work on mobile.
My main worry is controls.
My main worry is controls.
StereoVsn
Member
Which would those be exactly? iPhone 7 is likely to be in The ballpark of NX performance, for example.
The question is how do you sell a game for $40 on mobile platform?
bobbychalkers
Member
I don't really care...just make TWEWY 2 dammit!!
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Seeing how SQEX is already on board the NX,
This falls in line with what we think the NX is.
This falls in line with what we think the NX is.
I can't play Dragon Quest 1 or 2 on my Note 4. SE doesn't care about backwards compatibility on phone at all.
Indeed, the NX will probably be able to play (select) mobile games, so Nintendo's mobile effort will also be a plus for their game console.