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[Locust]

Paper Monsters just got pulled it looks like.

 

[Glass Rebel]

February/March is so packed full of releases.

Titanfall Beta
Resident Evil 4
South Park
Titanfall
Dark Souls

What else should I put on my radar?

February/March for me:

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2
Resident Evil 4
Dark Souls II
Metal Slug 3

Not sure about Thief yet. Somebody should leak review code so that I can try it like I did for DX: Human Revolution.

Titanfall I might get a bit later, depending on how many of my friends pick it up (probably none) and how good the community is.

Not sold on South Park yet. I have utmost trust in Obsidian and Parker & Stone but I don't know about them making a Paper Mario clone. We'll see.

Spoiler

On 3DS Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney and Senran Kagura Burst (EU) are the games to get but I think PLvsAA had lukewarm reception and I'm not so sure about getting a fullpriced retail game solely for 3D boobs.

Vita has DanganRonpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, Ys: Memories of Celceta and Final Fantasy X & X-2 HD Remaster.

 

[toddhunter]

Sentinel 3 is one of my favorite tower defense games by the way. No idea how good the PC port is, but I'd certainly recommend at least wish listing it for a sale.

 

[Derrick01]

I liked Absolution... Why was it that bad? True, more story driven and not on par with silent assassin, but still noteworthy.

One of the best examples of consoles dumbing down a game's design in a desperate attempt to get more sales. They simplified the level design and the stealth and only improved the graphics and controls. Thankfully it bombed and was $20 about a month and a half after release.

 

[Backlogger]

Paper Monsters just got pulled it looks like.

Its still on Green Man Gaming and 20% coupon works. I'm going to hold off and wait for the official release. Looks like the planned release is going to be more like the Wii U version with controller support, etc. I think I may buy the iOS version as well. Looks like a nice little game.

https://twitter.com/CM_Games/status/430501315626561536

https://twitter.com/MobotStudios/status/430503013342392320

 

[Boss Doggie]

That doesn't count!

 

[Tenrius]

Paper Monsters just got pulled it looks like.

They said they would release it in two months, so it might be the same sub again and those who purchased it today would get a patch later. Or maybe it will become another Holy Grail of Steam hoarders, but I think the former scenario is more likely.

 

[Faabulous]

I could explain my reasoning for not doing that (it mostly involves preorder bonuses and not having to worry about having enough dispensable money left by the release date).

However, the main reason I do it is because I don't think that pre-ordering gives publishers reason to believe that "scamming people with pre-orders" is a good idea. I frankly think it's a crazy thing to say, and even if some games did turn out bad or unfinished on day one, I wouldn't normally worry about that too much: things like that happen. You're also for some reason trying to counter my argument against pre-orders being some evil horrible thing from the outer reaches of Hell by simply repeating that initial point of yours again, which I find strange.

It's not some horrible thing that came from hell, its just some horrible thing that (in my mind) is only good for the publisher and has no positives for the player. So pardon me if I have a hard time countering your argument, but do tell me your reasoning beyond you not thinking it's harmful, I'm all ears.

I'm also struggling a bit with my words because english is not my native language, so do excuse me if I sound odd.

 

[Chronoja]

They said they would release it in two months, so it might be the same sub again and those who purchased it today would get a patch later. Or maybe it will become another Holy Grail of Steam hoarders, but I think the former scenario is more likely.

Here's hoping for a new sub for that extra game count. The purchase needs that silver lining since it felt sort of bad buying the game when the money was not going to go to the ones who deserved it, plus the 2nd app will ensure that they get the money from the purchase.

 

[toddhunter]

One of the best examples of consoles dumbing down a game's design in a desperate attempt to get more sales.

How is it desperate? New people buy and the old players complain but still buy it anyway.

 

[mileS]

hmmmm Batman Arkham Origins is $17 on greenman but that code isn't working. Still very tempting.

 

[Derrick01]

How is it desperate? New people buy and the old players complain but still buy it anyway.

It's the foolish notion that if they change a respected series to make it dull and easy for anyone to play that it'll sell 10 million copies instead of sticking to what works and trying to make that even better. It failed like everything else SE has done recently. It's nice to see a lazy console cash in fail for once.

 

[toddhunter]

It's the foolish notion that if they change a respected series to make it dull and easy for anyone to play that it'll sell 10 million copies instead of sticking to what works and trying to make that even better. It failed like everything else SE has done recently. It's nice to see a lazy console cash in fail for once.

Because the original thief games worked out so well for the devs right?

 

[corrosivefrost]

February/March is so packed full of releases.

Titanfall Beta
Resident Evil 4
South Park
Titanfall
Dark Souls

What else should I put on my radar?

Lords of Shadow 2
Double Dragon Neon
Metal Slug 3
Yaiba

Castlevania Lord of Shadow 2!

Double Dragon Neon looks like it might be good too.

Double Dragon Neon should be good if the netcode is up to snuff.

Double Dragon Neon (Steam)

Yes. Again, if the netcode is good.

Well, if you can play the beta by pre-ordering, you basically payed for early acess, which is not as bad IF you know what you are getting into. It's with pre-orders sight unseen that I have a problem with. It's honestly a cancer this industry has.

So I'm taking it you're NOT a fan of kickstarter then either.

So you're basically okay with stuff like Metal Slug 3 and King of Fighters XIII Steam Edition, but wouldn't be okay with pre-ordering something like Watch Dogs or South Park?

I believe that's correct.

 

[Tenrius]

It's not some horrible thing that came from hell, its just some horrible thing that (in my mind) is only good for the publisher and has no positives for the player. So pardon me if I have a hard time countering your argument, but do tell me your reasoning beyond you not thinking it's harmful, I'm all ears.

It's simple: I don't think pre-purchasing is any different from simply buying a game and I sometimes do it myself, just because I'm excited enough to want to play it day one, or maybe it's more convenient for me to pay for the game earlier and/or there are alluring bonuses. Or maybe just for no particular reason at all.

 

[Derrick01]

Because the original thief games worked out so well for the devs right?

I thought we were talking about Hitman?

 

[corrosivefrost]

It's simple: I don't think pre-purchasing is any different from simply buying a game and I sometimes do it myself, just because I'm excited enough to want to play it day one, or maybe it's more convenient for me to pay for the game earlier and/or there are alluring bonuses. Or maybe just for no particular reason at all.

Pre-ordering can also ensure you get release day shipping on Amazon.
Or free DLC. Though it's annoying that some of the free DLC takes forever to show up as a normal marketplace purchase for those who didn't pre-purchase.

 

[Faabulous]

So I'm taking it you're NOT a fan of kickstarter then either.

That's a completely different beast. If you pledge your money on kickstarter and you treat it like a pre-order you are just acting stupid in my opinion. Kickstarter is more like an investment than a purchase.

It's simple: I don't think pre-purchasing is any different from simply buying a game and I sometimes do it myself, just because I'm excited enough to want to play it day one, or maybe it's more convenient for me to pay for the game earlier and/or there are alluring bonuses. Or maybe just for no particular reason at all.

No argument to counter if your reasons are "because I feel like it" then mate. I still think its damaging and can only be bad or neutral, best case scenario you get a good game that you could have bought day 1 anyway.

 

[toddhunter]

I thought we were talking about Hitman?

Pointing out it is exactly the same thing and your posts on Thief indicate that you are aware of this.

But you are going to buy it anyway right? That sends exactly the wrong message.

 

[Turfster]

Because the original thief games worked out so well for the devs right?

Well, Looking Glass died because Eidos shit the books...
Now that Eidos has become Squeidos...

 

[IcyRhythms]

Just bought my girl and I a Galaxy Note 3. What is considered by the majority of android/Steam users the very best Steam app?

 

[Exuro]

What happened to achievements on store pages?

 

[Turfster]

Just bought my girl and I a Galaxy Note 3. What is considered by the majority of android/Steam users the very best Steam app?

There's only one Steam app, isn't there?

 

[Derrick01]

Pointing out it is exactly the same thing and your posts on Thief indicate that you are aware of this.

But you are going to buy it anyway right? That sends exactly the wrong message.

I plan on gameflying it actually.

 

[toddhunter]

Just bought my girl and I a Galaxy Note 3. What is considered by the majority of android/Steam users the very best Steam app?

For doing what exactly?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Because the original thief games worked out so well for the devs right?

The fact that SE changed the entire focus of a studio that was supposed to be working on more Hitman makes me think that Absolution didn't work out that well either.

 

[RionaaM]

Try fiddling with your regional settings in windows.

Nah, not gonna change my Windows settings for a stupid game.

Besides, it run pretty choppy on my PC, which makes no sense at all because it doesn't look anywhere near like a remotely demanding game. I'm not impressed by the first level, which is to say I didn't enjoy it. Not sure if I'm gonna bother booting it up again.

February/March for me:

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2
Resident Evil 4
Dark Souls II
Metal Slug 3

Not sure about Thief yet. Somebody should leak review code so that I can try it like I did for DX: Human Revolution.

Titanfall I might get a bit later, depending on how many of my friends pick it up (probably none) and how good the community is.

Not sold on South Park yet. I have utmost trust in Obsidian and Parker & Stone but I don't know about them making a Paper Mario clone. We'll see.

Spoiler

On 3DS Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney and Senran Kagura Burst (EU) are the games to get but I think PLvsAA had lukewarm reception and I'm not so sure about getting a fullpriced retail game solely for 3D boobs.

Vita has DanganRonpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, Ys: Memories of Celceta and Final Fantasy X & X-2 HD Remaster.

Did I read "Paper Mario clone"? I didn't know that about the new South Park game, but if it's similar to Nintendo's best franchise (haven't played Sticker Star yet) then I will have no option but to pre-order it from one of those shady dudes.

 

[Uraizen]

No argument to counter if your reasons are "because I feel like it" then mate. I still think its damaging and can only be bad or neutral, best case scenario you get a good game that you could have bought day 1 anyway.

But how do you determine whether or not you consider it good before playing it for yourself? There are rentals on console, but PC?

 

[Atraveller]

Just bought my girl and I a Galaxy Note 3. What is considered by the majority of android/Steam users the very best Steam app?

The best Steam app is on iOS.

 

[Tenrius]

No argument to counter if your reasons are "because I feel like it" then mate. I still think its damaging and can only be bad or neutral, best case scenario you get a good game that you could have bought day 1 anyway.

That's not my argument though. You're the one who has to prove that pre-ordering damages anything, because "it gives publishers data to back their idea that scamming us with pre-orders is nice" is not good enough (because that statement is based on the initial statement that pre-ordering does damage something).

 

[Faabulous]

But how do you determine whether or not you consider it good before playing it for yourself? There are rentals on console, but PC?

I don't usually buy games blind, I watch media coverage that I trust, or ask friends so day 1 is usually when the embargos are up and I can make a more informed purchase.
That's not my point tho, because when you pre-order you are not only buying without getting any information (which is all on you) but you are also encouraging devs to alter marketing material and craft up DLC just so people can pre-order more, that which in my opinion is damaging to the industry as a whole and have no positives for us the players. We get butched games and innacurate marketing just so they can get our money earlier.

That's not my argument though. You're the one who has to prove that pre-ordering damages anything, because "it gives publishers data to back their idea that scamming us with pre-orders is nice" is not good enough (because that statement is based on the initial statement that pre-ordering does damage something).

See ^

 

[Glass Rebel]

Did I read "Paper Mario clone"? I didn't know that about the new South Park game, but if it's similar to Nintendo's best franchise (haven't played Sticker Star yet) then I will have no option but to pre-order it from one of those shady dudes.

Yeah, it has quite a bit of action commands, even though they aren't presented in the same way with button prompts. Watch this video, the battle starts at ~2:10.

Did you get M&L: Dream Team?

 

[RionaaM]

Legitimate excuse to post what SteamGAF has currently been listening to?

Mowai's new album, The Ecstatic - Mos Def, got hooked on Raffertie - Known

and on BandCamp, mostly downtempo/electronic but I though this artist was pretty good: http://locirecords.bandcamp.com/album/drum-therapy

I spent my workday today listening to Doom 1 and 2 soundtracks, and to The Who (and some solo songs by Roger Daltrey) on both bus rides.

 

[corrosivefrost]

That's a completely different beast. If you pledge your money on kickstarter and you treat it like a pre-order you are just acting stupid in my opinion. Kickstarter is more like an investment than a purchase.

I disagree.
As far as I'm concerned, you're pre-ordering the game (and whatever goodies you'd like if you pledge a larger sum) for a game that will be delivered later. I have a bunch of kickstarter games I backed that I consider pre-orders and am patiently waiting for the delivery of the game.

The best Steam app is on iOS.

That's not helpful.
Search for holo Steam -- you should find it on XDA.
Most people seem to like it better than the official Steam app for android.

 

[Leon Belmont]

February/March is so packed full of releases.

Titanfall Beta
Resident Evil 4
South Park
Titanfall
Dark Souls

What else should I put on my radar?

For me:

Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2
Strider
Dark Souls II

 

[JaseC]

Paper Monsters has been yanked due to the issue mentioned earlier but as per this tweet it'll be back "in a few months".

 

[Uraizen]

I don't usually buy games blind, I watch media coverage that I trust, or ask friends so day 1 is usually when the embargos are up and I can make a more informed purchase.
That's not my point tho, because when you pre-order you are not only buying without getting any information (which is all on you) but you are also encouraging devs to alter marketing material and craft up DLC just so people can pre-order more, that which in my opinion is damaging to the industry as a whole and have no positives for us the players. We get butched games and innacurate marketing just so they can get our money earlier.

Fair enough.

 

[Faabulous]

I disagree.
As far as I'm concerned, you're pre-ordering the game (and whatever goodies you'd like if you pledge a larger sum) for a game that will be delivered later. I have a bunch of kickstarter games I backed that I consider pre-orders and am patiently waiting for the delivery of the game.

Well, I just hope you don't get burned then.

 

[Servizio]

I think I've warmed up to Absolution a lot more since it's release. There's more of the old games in there than I thought. The 'classic' assassination levels like King of Chinatown and Shaving Lenny. Blackwater Park's a bit clever too. Birdie's Gift is a fun 'bonus' level.

Those long ass, slog-through-a-dozen-guards, levels though. Ugh. Not fun to stealth through, not fun to disguise through, not fun to shoot through. No interesting challenges.

Some fundamental flaws with the very concept and execution of a lot of the core mechanics of the title. The checkpoint system over save states. The 'I-know-everyone-who-has-ever-worn-my-uniform' disguise system. Level design based around shoot outs. The dumb plot.

I'm very interested to see if Eidos will have figured out what was wrong with Absolution in the sequel. The 'no magic pockets' comment might be a good sign. Or maybe it means 47 will be limited to two weapons and a vigor.

 

[corrosivefrost]

Well, I just hope you don't get burned then.

So far, I'm 1 for 1. I backed Skullgirls PC and that seems to have worked out.

Still waiting on:
Yatagarasu (I wish this was on greenlight)
Hyper Light Drifter
Shantae
Soul Saga
MIghty No. 9

Normally I agree with you -- there's no reason to pre-order in a lot of cases. Unless you plan on picking the game up day 1 in the first place or there's some other incentive that makes it worth your while.

 

[RionaaM]

Yeah, it has quite a bit of action commands, even though they aren't presented in the same way with button prompts. Watch this video, the battle starts at ~2:10.

Did you get M&L: Dream Team?

Man, that looks awesome. I must get it now, and forget about those crazy dreams of owning a motorbike (which has gotten way more expensive in the last 3 weeks, so I'm not going to buy one for a long time). I don't know if the battle animations will become boring after a while, but that was beautiful.

And no, I haven't gotten M&L yet, but I plan to. I really liked the demo, but I decided to buy Ace Attorney 5 and PM: Sticker Star yesterday, so I can't (or actually shouldn't) spend more this month.

 

[JaseC]

Longbow got back to me, suggesting that I register my Steam copy of Hegemony Gold on their site and they'd add Philip of Macedon to my (Longbow) account. As nice a gesture as that is, I responded reiterating why I'd like a Steam key in particular and again mentioned that I'd be happy to buy another copy of the Gold Edition as thanks, however I have a feeling that the answer is going to be "no". As disappointing as that would be, even if I wanted to I couldn't blame them for not indulging the pleas of a crazy person.

Update: Apparently he misspoke and meant to say that the key I'll be given for Philip once I've registered my copy of the Gold Edition will be Steam-redeemable. Hooray! On a similar note I'd also like to thank Andy for seeing if Nvidia had any spare Arkham Asylum keys from way back when it was offering them with select GPUs, but as expected there are none left. I may submit another support ticket to WB and ask that it be raised with a manager but if that fails I officially give up.

 

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[Levyne]

I've backed Project Eternity, hope to be swinging 1.000 soon

 

[CaptainZombie]

How come Castlevania: LOS 2 isn't on Greenman and Steam yet for pre-order? Makes me wonder if we are still getting it this month on PC.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Man, that looks awesome. I must get it now, and forget about those crazy dreams of owning a motorbike (which has gotten way more expensive in the last 3 weeks, so I'm not going to buy one for a long time). I don't know if the battle animations will become boring after a while, but that was beautiful.

I really hope it's good. It's ridiculous actually, I like the franchise, I like the developer and I like the gameplay. But I'm still cautious.

And no, I haven't gotten M&L yet, but I plan to. I really liked the demo, but I decided to buy Ace Attorney 5 and PM: Sticker Star yesterday, so I can't (or actually shouldn't) spend more this month.

I still need to give Sticker Star a try one day. I'm a bit wary because of the negative feedback it's been getting since release but I really like the series as well. One day.

 

[corrosivefrost]

Update: Apparently he misspoke and meant to say that the key I'll be given for Philip once I've registered my copy of the Gold Edition will be Steam-redeemable. Hooray! On a similar note I'd also like to thank Andy for seeing if Nvidia had any spare Arkham Asylum keys from way back when it was offering them with select GPUs, but as expected there are none left. I may submit another support ticket to WB and ask that it be raised with a manager but if that fails I officially give up.

Why do you need an Arkham Asylum key?

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I really need to figure out what game to play next... I need something different after spending all that time with Rising.
I just don't know what I'm feeling like playing. :|

 

[Caerith]

That's not my argument though. You're the one who has to prove that pre-ordering damages anything, because "it gives publishers data to back their idea that scamming us with pre-orders is nice" is not good enough (because that statement is based on the initial statement that pre-ordering does damage something).

Pre-ordering games is harmful to the hobby in two cases:

1. If it encourages publishers to remove stuff from the game to offer as pre-order or retailer-exclusive DLC. (Example: Metro devs forced to remove content from Last Light by retailers.)
2. If it encourages publishers to outright lie about what their product is because there's no way anyone would buy it after reading a(n honest) review. (Examples: Aliens: Colonial Marines and probably Sim City too.)

Metal Slug 3 isn't either of these. Thief is probably both. The moral to this story shouldn't be "pre-ordering is bad" but rather "don't encourage shitty publishers."

 

[gnomed]

Double Dragon Neon (Steam)

What's the price for it? Don't see a add cart or buy option.

 

[Crab Milk Mickey]

It's the foolish notion that if they change a respected series to make it dull and easy for anyone to play that it'll sell 10 million copies instead of sticking to what works and trying to make that even better. It failed like everything else SE has done recently. It's nice to see a lazy console cash in fail for once.

Didn't Hitman: Absolution sell a couple million copies shortly after its release? Unfortunately we can't really say people weren't eager to gobble it up...

I mean: it did "fail" by performing inadequately relative to its sale projections, but only because Square-Enix' expectations were insanely high to begin with. A mistake they were happy to repeat with Tomb Raider as well, strangely enough.