Labrynian Rebel
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Stellaris |OT| Imperium Universalis
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Smart man, er, fungoid.
bonesmccoy
Banned
I caved and picked up this and TW Warhammer.
Of the 2 I'm a little concerned for the latter. The last 'big' TW game (Rome 2) was pretty bad.
Of the 2 I'm a little concerned for the latter. The last 'big' TW game (Rome 2) was pretty bad.
Royal_Phalanx
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Rome 2 doesn't suck anymore, even without mods. They've patched it a lot these days.
ThoseDeafMutes
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"Happiness is irrelevant"
Red Arremer
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"Fallen Empires are passive, they won't mind me rivaling them."
"The special modifiers on planets don't matter, I might as well colonize this Fallen Empire's Holy World."
(not from his videos mind you, but during the big London MP)Of course. Doesn't everything?
I haven't heard anything about official support though.
Man, I'm banging my head watching Quill keep missing a system with 10 society research and his construction ship being stuck because he's too busy doing 395 clicks a second on stuff.
I couldn't handle Arumba.
piratepwnsninja
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"Fallen Empires are passive, they won't mind me rivaling them."
"The special modifiers on planets don't matter, I might as well colonize this Fallen Empire's Holy World."
Fair point. Any word on how well it works with that controller? I just got it and haven't played any games similar to Stellaris yet.
Hard to say. I would assume it'll work decently since there isn't much that requires much precision instantly, if anything. I actually liked how it worked with Pillars of Eternity which I suppose isn't too different in complexity than this.
Red Arremer
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I imagine playing this with controller would be a bit of a pain in the ass, but possible for sure.
I think it's supposed to release 18:00 CEST.
18:00 CEST. So...16:00 GMT? Don't know my time zones over their super well.
Messofanego
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As an outsider to these kind of games, they look intimidating. What is amazing about them compared to any other genre? Sorry for the open query, it's just I'm trying to broaden my horizons to try more strategy games. I always see threads for strategy games and see so many people get really excited for them, but I'm never clear what I'm missing out. I liked Homeworld DoK, but I have a suspicion that my lack of experience with strategy games makes me unfit to grapple what seems like a more advanced systems-heavy sub-genre. Is the fun in mastering the systems or is it in cool gameplay stories/emergent storytelling?
vacantseas
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This game is going to be pretty great isn't it?
I'm sure it's both to different people, but for me it's definitely this. These kind of games are amazing for just throwing together a set of rules and seeing what cool stories come from a bunch of systems colliding together. Stellaris goes further in providing actual mini-storylines within the game itself that I'm sure will add loads of flavor to a specific playthrough.
SmiteOfHand
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Paradox has a talent for modelling very complicated real world things into video game systems. This creates a lot of opportunities for the coveted emergent gameplay/story experiences, as mentioned. Sort of like a bit more reigned in Dwarf Fortress, except with efforts pointed towards tactics/strategy instead of survival.
This game is their attempt to take these talents into the hypothetical space future. Which is exciting for many reasons.
Red Arremer
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Both, really.
There's an inherent challenge in managing an empire. You have to oversee economy, population growth and happiness, research, military, diplomacy, etc. These aspects are appealing, especially if you are in a difficult position (e.g. your starting position is unfavourable, or you're wedged between a few stronger opponents). That on itself is challenging, but there's a lot more aspects to this.
You have to prioritize the resources you have available (e.g. what is going to benefit you the most with that enemy empire about to declare war on you - better tech, more ships, or bribing another empire to ally with you?) in order to progress, while you are able to secure strategically important locations that provide more resources or a bottleneck to choke enemy forces through.
Is the situation especially hairy, then you can come up with creative ways to get out of them. The guy who did the GiantBomb quick look of Stellaris, for instance, had a part of his population that was very unhappy and about to rebel. So in order to weaken their faction, he basically gerrymandered the rebellious population by spreading the planets they influenced across several sectors, thus essentially making them a non-issue in his empire. You can only come up with this kind of solution in a complex strategy game.
It's hard to explain the appeal of complex strategy games, but they're really addicting, and it's easy to lose track of time when completely engulfed in them. The work of you leading your empire is never done, after all.
It's hard to explain the appeal of complex strategy games, but they're really addicting, and it's easy to lose track of time when completely engulfed in them. The work of you leading your empire is never done, after all.
This so much. Strategy and Builder games are like a time abyss for me. So hype for tomorrow.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
even better
Red Arremer
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Also, to add to my earlier post:
Strategy games tend to be the most intense games I play, and I've been through playing all kinds of genres, including shooters on a semi-professional level. Nothing has me stuck to the edge of my seat than my empire being in a tight spot that I have to weasel my way out of.
Strategy games tend to be the most intense games I play, and I've been through playing all kinds of genres, including shooters on a semi-professional level. Nothing has me stuck to the edge of my seat than my empire being in a tight spot that I have to weasel my way out of.
RedSparrows
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I love Grand Strategy because it allows me to conquer all of Central and Southern Europe, Anatolia and Egypt as Tuscany, become HR Emperor and become a global superpower, and make that feel extra specially great because it was so damn hard.
with a steam controller it's no different than using a mouse
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
SmiteOfHand
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Human in the Sol system. And then when I inevitably get crushed will branch out from there with whatever feels appropriate.
They are. I got Crusader Kings 2 from them.
piratepwnsninja
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Found this browsing the Stellaris reddit:
Races from popular scifi
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YSVWK4uvKLux6jCeXBvGMU7BBctXaUS7edM3vXD0fEo/edit#gid=0
Races from popular scifi
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YSVWK4uvKLux6jCeXBvGMU7BBctXaUS7edM3vXD0fEo/edit#gid=0
I got Cities Skylines from them too
Red Arremer
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I just ordered Stellaris from GMG using this 25% off code, I'm hoping they are a legit retailer for Paradox.
Yes.
They don't even have Babylon 5 races on there? What a joke.
piratepwnsninja
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At least they kind of have Galaxy Quest ones!
piratepwnsninja
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They sell a lot of portrait-related DLC for their other games, so maybe in a pack somewhere down the road?
Basileus777
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A Paradox OT getting this many posts pre-release? Yeah, they have a hit on their hands.
The odds are good, they've done it with similar preorder stuff for their previous games.
Sickboy007
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I like how Predators are an indirect democracy.
More_Badass
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My position is kind of odd, because I've never played much grand strategy, but I know why I want to play them. My mindset comes from my time with the tutorials and some play, and a lot of reading about these games. Stellaris will be the first I really sink my teeth into.
Unlike any other medium, games aren't mere conduits for us to enjoy stories, but can generate new stories themselves. While RPGs and other genres are good at this, there are a few that I would argue are natural "story generators". They usually combine systems-driven gameplay, open worlds, and open-ended mechanics to deliver emergent moments. Project Zomboid, DayZ, STALKER, Minecraft, and so on. But perhaps none more so than grand strategy games. Especially Paradox grand strategy games.
They're challenging games of management and both short-term and long-term planning. Success relies not just on turn-by-turn tactics, but foresight, thinking of how your decisions will affect you a generation, a century, two centuries down the line in-game. They have an epic scope and macro scale that can't be matched, entire continents and nations, populations and cultures. These games simulate things other games rarely touch, like the spread and influence of religion to the familial relationships of dynasties
But deeper still, all those turns and choices and numbers become something more. Much like how you can get invested in the @ in a game like Nethack, these game's numbers and portraits coalesce into epic tales of rival nations, of generations-old grudges erupting into all out war, of backstabbing kings and puppet vassals, of underhanded treaties and deft political maneuvering.
Stellaris takes this to a new height literally, leaving squabbling nations and feuding families behind and launching into the stars. Paradox has embraced the wonder of science fiction and the thrill of space operas, letting you rise from a new civilization dipping its toe into the galactic circle to a universe-conquering empire. From concepts rarely used in games like uplifting to the classic trope of the technologically advanced precursor races, to the need to consider the pros and cons of wormholes versus hyperlanes, Stellaris is a space opera of your own to mold and craft as you see fit.
That's why we're excited
Throwing some mod ideas out there:
- New race class "Crystalline", basically silicone based entities. So I can make The Chenjesu, which later on can be join up with a robot population (Maybe Mmrnmhrm). They'll join up to become the Chmrr (OK, I love Star Control 2)
- How about some alternate type of transport. First you have a rare, strategic resource you have to mine (Let's call it Melange), and a building called "The Spacing Guild". Spending this resource will transport you anywhere in the galaxy faster than any other means of travel, but you will need "Navigators" with psionic abilities as the leader (OK, I love Dune as well)
- New race class "Crystalline", basically silicone based entities. So I can make The Chenjesu, which later on can be join up with a robot population (Maybe Mmrnmhrm). They'll join up to become the Chmrr (OK, I love Star Control 2)
- How about some alternate type of transport. First you have a rare, strategic resource you have to mine (Let's call it Melange), and a building called "The Spacing Guild". Spending this resource will transport you anywhere in the galaxy faster than any other means of travel, but you will need "Navigators" with psionic abilities as the leader (OK, I love Dune as well)
It's not even really a race, it's a portrait. Definitely not worth the premium unless you absolutely love the soundtrack.
I'm sure most of it will be sold separately, but even if it's not it's not exactly something people should feel bad about missing out on.
piratepwnsninja
Member
<3
I kind of hope someone takes the portraits from the open-source Ur-Quan Masters and makes them work in here.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
I just ordered Stellaris from GMG using this 25% off code, I'm hoping they are a legit retailer for Paradox.
Aw I preordered early in the week for a mere 20% off :/
WHY HAVE YOU INTERRUPTED THE PROCESS??
Modding portraits didn't look too complicated so It could be fun.
Probably around launch or some hours earlier.