Alrighty, I feel like we now know a ton more about fusion from this 2 parter!
Saw someone make a thread about this on reddit and I went a bit harder with it.
I had always assumed Garnet was a fusion that had gone on for too long and became perma-fused ... never thought that she was a fusion made outta love.
A certain someone here brang up how fusions always have 2 sets of arms (other than Stevonnie for w/e reason but this is gem-gem fusion) as a reason Garnet couldn't be one. Now that we know from this song that Garnet IS NOT just a fusion but also "made from love" and is a "stable relationship" it gives us a ton of information.
When a fusion is made from love and such deep caring/ understanding the result is a perfect, stable fusion. 1 set of arms/ legs/ eyes (Garnet and Stevonnie have this. Garnet goes as far as to fuse eye balls, making a 3rd purple one). They have one voice because a fusion is also a "conversation" (each person takes their turn talking in a civil conversation so you here one voice at a time normally. With Stevonnie you can tell when she's channeling either of them from the slight difference in how deep her voice goes).
With Opal and Sug it's different. They're not prefect or made from "love", so they arn't stable. They have 4 arms for this reason. Seeing how Ruby is I feel that Amy would get along with atleast that part of Garnet but that makes things unbalanced and it becomes 2 parts selfish/ reckless personas + 1 part ... Sapphire. They have 5 eyes unlike Opal so I guess that also shows how unbalanced they are ... but from the nature of how they get along Sug doesn't wanna split up/ enjoys being together.
Opal is the opposite. Pearl and Amy's personas balance each other out well ... but they don't get along. So they have 2 eyes unlike Sug and they don't want to stay together because they disagree allot (Whose fault is it that we don't have the beetle?!? - Split. Steven's Back?!? Amy sounds happy to see Steven, Pearl like "NOOOO!!" so- Split).
Then we have Alexandrite and ... this rapey monstrosity. Both speak with more than one voice at the same time (an argument sounds like that). Alexandrite has 2 damn mouths and this ... thing has 4 eyes and no god damn legs.
People still weren't sure about this? I mean come on.
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So, can we all talk about how Ruby and Sapphire is actually a well-executed relationship that isn't forced at all and actually pretty goddamn beautiful unlike the BS they threw at us with Korra and Asami?
I mean, Garnet is, quite literally, the embodiment of their love. Her mere existence is touching as shit.
YES. Thank you. I feel like some folks didn't get that those complaining weren't intolerant we just wanted something not shoe horned. This was well done.So, can we all talk about how Ruby and Sapphire is actually a well-executed relationship that isn't forced at all and actually pretty goddamn beautiful unlike the BS they threw at us with Korra and Asami?
I mean, Garnet is, quite literally, the embodiment of their love. Her mere existence is touching as shit.
So do we assume that gems are all female now? I mean it could simply mean the females are the Warriors.
Steven's a gem too, you jerk.So do we assume that gems are all female now? I mean it could simply mean the females are the Warriors.
I thoughtAlso can't they change genders like when Amethyst changed into a male wrestler?that Jasper had a male outer body.
Nah just masculine.I thoughtAlso can't they change genders like when Amethyst changed into a male wrestler?that Jasper had a male outer body.
#keepgemspureSteven's a gem too, you jerk.
So, I am no doubt missing an easy answer here, but based on how everyone was referring to one anotherespecially how Jasper called them out when first seeing them, it seems that the gems are the beings themselves, right? Like their bodies are just projections from within the gem. In that sense, Jasper is, perhaps, not incorrect when she refers to Steven as Rose Quartz because could it not be that the gem in Steven's belly is, in fact, Rose Quartz?
I guess what I'm saying is: Could this be Steven Universe's "Wife Arm"?
Also, Jasper's reference to Pearl as "a defective Pearl" certainly seems to intentionally imply that there is more than one Pearl which would make sense. How many different gems/minerals are there, really? Certainly not enough to comprise an entire civilization, right?
Makes sense.yeah it would make sense that there are many gems with the same name. As to the Gems being the beings I think it's a combination of the two ideas. I think that gem civilization simply has never had to deal with this situation of parenthood so they don't know how to refer to it
YOU GUYS AND GALS.
Remember the episode where Steven and Connie fuse? Garnet had a big stupid grin when she found out THIS TAKES ON A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO THAT!
Yeah it definitely seemed unhealthy from her but I won't read too much into it right now it may have just been shock/nerves due to the situation.Makes sense.
Unrelated:You know, there is a flip side to the Garnet thing. Ruby especially seemed almost dysfunctional without Sapphire. One could just as easily view their relationship as dangerously codependent.
Makes sense.
Unrelated:You know, there is a flip side to the Garnet thing. Ruby especially seemed almost dysfunctional without Sapphire. One could just as easily view their relationship as dangerously codependent.
Makes sense.
Unrelated:You know, there is a flip side to the Garnet thing. Ruby especially seemed almost dysfunctional without Sapphire. One could just as easily view their relationship as dangerously codependent.
YOU GUYS AND GALS.
Remember the episode where Steven and Connie fuse? Garnet had a big stupid grin when she found out THIS TAKES ON A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO THAT!
You actually can. Are we allowed to post download links to sound cloud rips?
eh I don't think so. Garnet's strength comes from their love, I think it's as pure and perfect as it seems.
It must have been really traumatizing for Ruby and she just wanted to find her partner. She was freaking out because without her fusion with Sapphire she doesn't have future vision so she had no idea where she was in a ship she was unfamiliar with. With the way she was just calmly singing, it seems to me that Garnet's stoicism comes from Sapphire, so Ruby's naturally a little more on edge in times of distress.
Nice! There seems to be a lot more info floating around tumblr. I had kind of assumed this though. lol
People still weren't sure about this? I mean come on.If Sapphire kissing Ruby wasn't confirmation enough, their relationship was what Garnet's song was about. There was nothing subtle about it.
Prediction for next episode "Full Disclosure", based on what we know now:
It was thought that the title meant that the Gems would finally tell Steven about their history, and that part still seems very possible though he already got the cliff notes version from Greg... but it can also mean that he's going to have to let Connie know eventually what Gems really are to the people of Earth (like Rose did with Greg) and why two of them attacked from space. And it's going to tear him up inside because he'll be afraid that Connie won't take it well and stop being his friend.
Honestly though, I don't think it is pure and perfect and the concept of what one might extrapolate from the Ruby/Sapphire relationship and Garnet's song is both unrealistic and, I would go as far as to say again, unhealthy. I hope they address it on the show, but if you met two people like them in real life, would that strike you as normal? I mean isn't this just an updated continuation of the old, Disney-esque "one person to complete me/true love forever" dynamic? Seems like something this show would avoid.
I'm not trying to be argumentative or pick on you, it's just the more I've thought about it, the more that's been nagging at me. We definitely don't have enough information right now to say either way, but I wonder if the writers are thinking about it this way at all.
Because of the way these episodes are being released on iTunes this week, I need to know if I need to watch the episode that ran on Wednesday before the two-parter that aired on Thursday.
Sorry if this has been asked before. I'm afraid of this thread being a spoiler minefield right now.
Watch every episode released this week in order. The one on Wednesday's not necessary persay, but it provides some pacing cooldown between Tuesday and Thursday's episodes.Because of the way these episodes are being released on iTunes this week, I need to know if I need to watch the episode that ran on Wednesday before the two-parter that aired on Thursday.
Sorry if this has been asked before. I'm afraid of this thread being a spoiler minefield right now.
Very likely.What if the hand ship is a part of a larger, giant robot? Similar to the statue on the island?