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Yep, sorry.
Standing jab is probably your best normal in that specific case. Crouching HP will not be fast enough to stop a cross-up. You can also go for late autocorrect DP. Otherwise if they're really doing it consistently (like crossup, normal, normal, forward jump, etc) you can preemptively go for air-to-air with LK or HK, or an aggressive HP/EX DP.
Romars202129
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I find his lp dp works decent. It travels almost straight up so it catches those a little better.
I think I spent like 40 minutes trying to beat someone in there last night...
Karsticles
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You have the best walk speed in the game - adjust your position.
You sticking with Bison man?
Oh for sure, I'd just think that with all the commotion over the lack of single-player content there would be more people out there actually doing it. That, and the flakiness of matchmaking.
I'm in the southwest myself. Seems pretty good for now, though not as good as it was in beta. I don't have much of a sample size to go on though, I haven't had much play time this week. :[
toastyToast
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Cool, added ya.
Honestly I don't know yet. I've been pretty busy and haven't even taken Necalli online or anything. Do like the character, though. Still like Bison quite a bit but it is nice playing a character with an actual reversal and slightly better AA game (and still has that capacity to maul people).
Man, HRAP4 can't come soon enough. Not sure what's wrong with my PS3 fightstick but even playing against AI, sometimes the input seems delayed or not even registering. It's the SFIV TE stick I got way back but it hasn't been used in years. I wonder if the parts are kinda fucked from neglect.
Imperfected
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I'm sure it's been asked a thousand times, but it isn't in the FAQ, so...
Any thoughts on the best PC/PS4 cross-compatible stick? Am I pretty much looking at using JoyInKey or some other after-market configuration program no matter what, given the state of PS3/PS4 and Xinput? Any pertinent reviews from people using the PS4 sticks to play SFV on PC I should check out?
Any thoughts on the best PC/PS4 cross-compatible stick? Am I pretty much looking at using JoyInKey or some other after-market configuration program no matter what, given the state of PS3/PS4 and Xinput? Any pertinent reviews from people using the PS4 sticks to play SFV on PC I should check out?
Cindi Mayweather
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Hey guys, how much FM should I have after completing all of story mode? I have 166k.
That sounds about right. It's 160k if all the characters you take through Story are at level 1 when you begin.
Thanks. I noticed indeed Chun gets way too much damage if she hits me low, say, with a cr.MK then she links to SBK or legs. grrr. The overhead hits once and I don't think she can continue after it so you have a good point.
Thanks. I guess I gave up too quickly on the fireballs because of her cr.MP. I'll try that. Is st.MK okay indeed? How about her b.HP ("hey"), can't that crush counter it?
Yeah i've had issues when using my PS3 stick where i couldn't use any kick buttons or the up direction. Basically made it impossible to win with chun, but unplugging and reauthenticating seems to fix it and i can jump onto my ds4 mid round if i have to.
Not only that, but I think you could react to the startup and hit her out of it pretty easily. it's a really bad move. once you take that away from her she has to jump at you, or dash in and throw and you can beat both of those with a DP.
Have you tried punishing it with Bison's st.HP or EX Knee Press? It's minus 12, I don't think there's a character who can't punish it, even at max range.
Zomba13
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I legitimately think the thing that will kill this game for me is how long it takes to get out of a match. Like, I know it's not long, but after loss after loss after loss and just having to wait at the end of a round to be able to go back to spending minutes waiting for another match it just pisses me off and demoralises me.
They go through the effort of trying to cut down time to match by letting you search while doing anything else and cut out the stage/character select screens but they still keep unskippable post match screens.
They go through the effort of trying to cut down time to match by letting you search while doing anything else and cut out the stage/character select screens but they still keep unskippable post match screens.
Excited to try Rashid today after the Birdie experiment was a semi-dud. I would ask for pointers but that feels pointless as I havent even tried the character yet, I have no feel for his normals, the differences in specials with different buttons etc.
Ill ask the experts tonight I guess
Ill ask the experts tonight I guess
Outtrigger888
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Should you play story mode before leveling up characters to get the most fight money?
This is what I use vs most sweeps (usually st.HP xx HK DKP incase I don't react fast enough), haven't tried it specifically on Chun at max range though.
I don't think it matters, you'll get the same about of XP out of Story regardless since they're fixed values.
If someone is constantly jumping over you so that your anti-air normals don't work, you can jump back and go air-to-air (try to find a normal that works best in training mode) or dash under the jump and reset the situation.
Karsticles
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I haven't, but I have a feeling that Bison is too far away. If it wasn't that good, Ortiz wouldn't have been spamming it vs. Wong tonight.
EX Scissors is 12 startup, so it can't punish.
Holly shit I forgot Bison can cancel st.HP!
Never sweeping Bison again. And yes, he can punish Chun's.
Pretty sure it punishes it, just trying it in training mode, either EX Knee is 11 or Chun's sweep is minus 13 because it only punish it as a reversal.
Holly shit I forgot Bison can cancel st.HP!
Never sweeping Bison again. And yes, he can punish Chun's.
Yeah, it's more damage to cancel into Inferno but obviously you need to be sure it punishes since Inferno is unsafe. Blast also is safe (and plus) but leaves you with worse screen position.
It's 11f though so you can't get some sweeps that are -10 like Necalli.
Karsticles
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Psycho Inferno is too slow. I just checked the frame data.
I'm 100% sure it will be in the in game store
I somehow managed to go all this time without encountering a rage quitter, and then I got 4 of them in the last 2 hours. None of them had high streaks (2-3 games max), the only commonality was that they all had 500-1000 more points than I did.
I guess they're afraid of losing more than usual since I'm lower ranked than they were? I was hovering around 1700 all night and all quitters had 2000+. The fucked up thing is I'd have made it to silver if they didn't quit. But I'm only at 1800 now. Hopefully Capcom does something about it soon.
Next time someone quits I'm going to write their name down, so if I ever get them again I'll just alt-f4 at the start and save myself the time and energy.
I guess they're afraid of losing more than usual since I'm lower ranked than they were? I was hovering around 1700 all night and all quitters had 2000+. The fucked up thing is I'd have made it to silver if they didn't quit. But I'm only at 1800 now. Hopefully Capcom does something about it soon.
Next time someone quits I'm going to write their name down, so if I ever get them again I'll just alt-f4 at the start and save myself the time and energy.
Rice-Eater
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Without Super she has no way around fireball from more than mid screen so you have to utilize fireballs to keep her at bay. If you don't then she'll just bully you by throwing her slow fireball and use it to approach safely or bait you into DP's because you don't wan to take her pressure. You have to be careful of the range in which you throw those fireballs. She has very long normals like st. MP, st. HP, st. MK, and sweep that can easily crush counter you at mid range. Then she has that cr. MP(the slide move) that's pretty effective at punishing from mid screen.
When she gets in close enough, either you need to back off or take the fight to her. Try to pay attention to what she's doing when she is close to you, is she sitting back in block range waiting for you or continuing to approach. If she wants in then those are opportunities for you to poke her. Against a patient Chun I'll just back off a bit and continue throwing fireballs and looking for jumps.
Can't say my win rate has been good though since the game came out and all this new Chun tech has been available but hopefully this helps a little until better strategies become available.
toastyToast
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If you favourite someone you can invite them to your battle lounge
Cindi Mayweather
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What. Chun's range of her sweep pales compared IV's and it's not nearly as fast where it was generally safe as well.
Do not take Karsticle's advice on this. You'll get blown up.
Post Office
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Excited to try Rashid today after the Birdie experiment was a semi-dud. I would ask for pointers but that feels pointless as I havent even tried the character yet, I have no feel for his normals, the differences in specials with different buttons etc.
Ill ask the experts tonight I guess
You should check out Alex Valle's Rashid on youtube. Its helped me a lot learning some tricks with Rashid.
https://youtu.be/eyEQz3kyafQ
Nah, stHP xx HP Inferno definitely combos.
Also I just checked and stHP punishes Chun's sweep at all ranges. It actually has slightly longer reach than her sweep in fact.
I get it. This is solid advice. You have described exactly what tends to happen in my matchups. When I give up on my fireballs, she gets those slow kikokens on screen and comes dashing/vskill jumping shielded by them and forcing me to block and then everything goes to hell. lol. Kinda shitty situation tbh.
tyvm I'll keep this in mind and get some practice against her.
Raging Spaniard
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Damn log ride, good games! Sorry I wasnt switching from Ken, Im just trying to get to know him better. Your all around game is pretty damn good, that Sim is beastly.
I feel like I was getting the hang of it towards the end, its so easy to eat massive damage in this game, footsies are pretty important in this one.
I feel like I was getting the hang of it towards the end, its so easy to eat massive damage in this game, footsies are pretty important in this one.
Teknopathetic
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"Psycho Inferno is too slow. I just checked the frame data."
I don't think you understood him, you punish with St.fierce xx Inferno, which definitely does work except at absolutely (like to the pixel) max range where inferno will whiff.
Edit: Beaten.
I don't think you understood him, you punish with St.fierce xx Inferno, which definitely does work except at absolutely (like to the pixel) max range where inferno will whiff.
Edit: Beaten.
the_log_ride
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Good games, man! Lots of really close rounds. Could have gone either way, really.
Anyone else up for some FT3s? I'm looking to do a couple before calling it a night.
edit: cfn = thelogride (west coast US)
Romars202129
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Could I bug someone to link some high level Necalli play?
This is a good point, though; if you do block a max range Chun sweep, even though stHP still reaches with the pushback you'll be just out of range for Inferno to land. While it's unlikely for them to actually get this true max range it's probably best to just get used to doing stHP xx HK DKP (especially since you can get a trivial VT activation confirmation off HK DKP for getting enormous punishes). Edit - by trivial I just mean that VT cancel off DKP does not require timing, you can input it any time during DKP's animation and you will get first frame VT cancel once DKP ends.
Radical Edward
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Daigo's session from last night is archived on twitch. Im on ps4 so cant link. Daigothebeastv
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