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Street Fighter V Season 2 Patch Notes Released (92 page PDF)
- Thread starter TheSpoiler
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Flood of Ibukis after EVO 2017
He's Gill's brother, being godlike runs in his blood.
Immortal Technique
Member
My dream is that Juri is good enough for Infiltration to main
HappyPuppy
Member
Can someone help me understand the Chun-Li changes, have no clue what I'm reading and what it means. She is the only character I like T_T
synce
Member
Seeing more Ibukis or Juris would be fun, but Akuma will definitely end up more broken and overused in season 2.
lucebuce12
Member
Basically, don't do IALs anymore.
HappyPuppy
Member
Instant Air legs? Can barely pull them off, so I never try.
gundamkyoukai
Member
For the two characters i play Mika got hit hard .
Karin make it out okay but still.
Karin make it out okay but still.
Given how air legs was essential for Chun last season, I stopped playing her because I did not want to put in the time for the execution. I may consider her again now lol
Akuma and Laura are currently in my sights though, disappointed with the Alex balances.
No more instant air legs. Standing heavy punch is worse and you shouldn't use it at closer ranges. EX legs is a little better.
Otherwise, pretty similar. Some neat air combos off crush-counter are now possible.
lucebuce12
Member
Her cr.lp is now 4-frames
You can do legs by mashing lk
You can cancel the fireball or legs into V-Trigger now.
V-Trigger doesn't last as long, but now she has more combos available to her with the above change.
HappyPuppy
Member
....Noooo! Tell me it isn't true. HP was so cheap, I loved her because of it. RIP.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Dictator got buffed
FUCK
FUCK
Boogalogist
Member
He's still missing that overhead.
Just try to use it at max range and don't spam it.
m_shortpants
Member
Wow, as a Urien main I thought he was actually not too bad and not needing of many changes.
These buffs...I'll take them, just hope he doesn't get the hammer next year.
These buffs...I'll take them, just hope he doesn't get the hammer next year.
the_batman
Banned
time to learn how to use Akuma. is there a way to just buy Akuma instead of the season pass?
cool, thanks.
cool, thanks.
Dark Ninja
Member
Yes a character cost $6 I believe or you can get him for "free" if you have enough fight money. You can do story mode and other stuff to get some easy FM if you haven't done it already. I don't know how the costume stuff functions though. The season pass gets you the Season 2 DLC characters and their premium costumes.
Story costumes are unlocked with fight momey. Premium costumes cost real money.
Nemesis121
Member
I really can't see how Urien isn't top 3 after reading his changes....already has enough tools to fight and beat your ass, they had to make him better? Urien Army gonna be every where now...hopefully they watch how the balance is playing out and change stuff up during the year, and not wait until the end of season to make changes..
Dark Ninja
Member
Right, Akuma has 3 costumes at release so I guess if you want Classic Akuma look you have to pay? It may come with the Season pass?
Story (Fight Money)
Premium (Real Money or Season Pass)
Nostalgia (Real Money? Season Pass?)
It's actually looking like she'll be even easier to counter poke, making her already sketchy footsies even more sketch. You'll probably be seeing st mk a little bit less for instance. While they buffed the hit advantage, allowing for her to just straight up link to st/cr lp and st/cr lk without counter hit (while allowing linking to cr mp on counter hit(insane) the on block disadvantage is now as risky as Laura having her lp elbow, former cr lk, st hp, and f+ hp blocked. Instant 50/50 not in Laura's favor. And if she tries to use the counter hit setup with st mk~st lk and the st mk is blocked, because of the buff to the hurtbox and the nerf to the hitbox of the st lk, she'll most likely get counter hit for trying. Her jumping mk and st hk received similar nerfs/buffs in the hitbox/hurtbox department.
With her fireball also generating less meter, as insane as it looks on paper, she's probably really going to need that overhead!
lucebuce12
Member
Nostalgia costume is NOT in the season pass. We don't know as of yet whether the Nostalgia costumes will be available with FM or Real Money exclusive.
ezekielpacman
Member
Definitely this, happy for the revamp but they are bound to have fucked some things up here and I don't want an entire year of, for example, Urien being the new Mika.
TheSpoiler
Member
Meter gain is needed and that got hit on his part. A lot of his tools relied on it otherwise he's fairly mediocre beyond his AR. They just normalized him by giving him an AA and letting you reach AR faster.
ezekielpacman
Member
I think you have to look at it in the overall context of the game, and at this stage it is difficult to see how it will all play out. Practically every character has had normals nerfed so leaving some untouched could create an imbalance.
Chronospherics
Member
In light of everyone's damage nerfs, the damage buffs on Rashid might be pretty significant. Everyone else gets a 10% ish reduction (I'm sure there are some exceptions), but he got a 10% buff.
They also enhanced his comboability, which is nice.
The changes in general are a bit odd though. I think some of them feel as though they haven't been made with any particular intent. Many features changing just for the sake of change, without much thought or discussion on how it will affect gameplay. I think Capcom just want to change things so that players will discover a new meta, which is interesting but some more sensible changes would have been nice. What's the point in weakening Alex's footsies? Why did Guiles boom's get buffed? These changes don't seem considerate to the characters current efficacy, it's like they rolled a dice to determine which way each move would go.
They hit the nail into some of the most complained about characters and moves, but the rest just looks like guess work. It looks as if the balance update was made by someone who doesn't play the game, but instead tried to vaugely gauge community feedback on reddit or something like that.
They also enhanced his comboability, which is nice.
The changes in general are a bit odd though. I think some of them feel as though they haven't been made with any particular intent. Many features changing just for the sake of change, without much thought or discussion on how it will affect gameplay. I think Capcom just want to change things so that players will discover a new meta, which is interesting but some more sensible changes would have been nice. What's the point in weakening Alex's footsies? Why did Guiles boom's get buffed? These changes don't seem considerate to the characters current efficacy, it's like they rolled a dice to determine which way each move would go.
They hit the nail into some of the most complained about characters and moves, but the rest just looks like guess work. It looks as if the balance update was made by someone who doesn't play the game, but instead tried to vaugely gauge community feedback on reddit or something like that.
Man, if they bundled the nostalgia costumes I would absolutely grab that season pass. I really hope I can buy that Alex costume soon. I love the jacket.
You may be right about that. I will keep playing him no matter what. I have a history of playing bottom tier. It is fine.
Iirc PS4 should be identical to the arcade game. So PC modifiers in this case would hurt it since there is a standard to compare it to.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Arcade is one frame worse than ps4 but you can adjust input lag on console/PC anyway (that's why at evo some of the Japanese players added a frame in the settings). I assume arcade sfv will be the same as ps4 though if that's still going to be a thing.
biosnake20
Member
Mika not losing her vskill power up after getting hit will provide oodles of salt.
lucebuce12
Member
Wait what?
Her V-Trigger is still 2 bars, just the duration has been decreased considerably.
abstract alien
Member
Damn that is a lot to go over...
Man...they must've made a lot of changes since Capcom Cup.
UcchedavÄda
Member
This release did have QoL improvements, namely D-Input support, improved rage-quitting measures, and options customize the music you want to hear in different game modes. They might not be the QoL improvements you want the most, but they are QoL improvements nonetheless.
Furthermore, Ono recently acknowledged that their servers are not up to snuff, and promised improvements in the near future. If we are lucky, that'll include improvements to the lounge system:
(Source)
lucebuce12
Member
On the one hand, it is nice to see them acknowledging that they've fucked up (repeatedly).Ucchedavāda;226907108 said:
But on the other hand, it'd be nice if they could make fixing these things more of a priority. Or at least just communicate more openly about their plans.