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Street Fighter X Tekken |OT| Truly, truly outrageous~
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SUPARSTARX
Member
I think they're better overall in consistency but the defense gems could be just as good in rarer cases.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Terareflection
Member
First off read this, it will teach you the basics of playing SF.
http://sonichurricane.com/?page_id=1702
Liquidsnake
Banned
Thank you.
diztrukted
Member
went on an 11 win winstreak yesterday...then i lose to another high level kazuya/ryu
one thing i don't like about this game (and its really more about the community around this game) is that every week theres a theme....
week one - ryu kazuya hugo gief rufus
week two - ryu ken kazuya hugo juri
week three - ryu kazuya heihachi juri
week four - ryu ken heihachi rufus juri ibuki
and with all those mixes of characters theres always one thing everyone and their mother discovers that they abuse online...last week it was "everyone has discovered a good mixup for kazuya, lets do it over and over again".....i despise that stupid target combo
/endrant
one thing i don't like about this game (and its really more about the community around this game) is that every week theres a theme....
week one - ryu kazuya hugo gief rufus
week two - ryu ken kazuya hugo juri
week three - ryu kazuya heihachi juri
week four - ryu ken heihachi rufus juri ibuki
and with all those mixes of characters theres always one thing everyone and their mother discovers that they abuse online...last week it was "everyone has discovered a good mixup for kazuya, lets do it over and over again".....i despise that stupid target combo
/endrant
ihearthawthats
Banned
it is in general since its very easy to benefit from the effects. but lvl 2/3 fortitudes are only 130/160 compared to the lvl2/3 iron walls which are 20%/30%. when the patch comes out, it'll probably make sense to use a combination of both especially with 5 slots.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Wow this thread is dying... def not as popular as Marvel of Sf4...
Be thankful this thread is still talking about the game. SF4 thread is more or less a general FGC community thread now at this point, and the Marvel thread is long drawn out posts by Dahbomb over theory fighter like he's writing a thesis paper.
Riposte
Member
Theory fighter is what you'd expect on a medium for theory.
Yeah, Gouken's counter barely has any combo potential, so I wasn't planning on it being a full-time strategy. I just happen to like counters
Thanks for the support!Hell yes, I love me some Hugo, but he has got to be stopped! Haha.
SUPARSTARX
Member
It's frightening cuz like a lot of people aren't even trying too hard to learn the game for what it is I think. A lot of people expected SF4 v2.0 with Tekken character. This game is gonna progress slow.
Rice-Eater
Member
LOL, I thought Dahbomb does this in every thread he's in. To be fair to the SF4 thread, news is slow nowadays(with more streams excluding SF4) and isn't much to discover in a 3 year old game even with all the updates. It's had a very long run with well over 100k post in all the official threads combined.
But to be fair to all 3 games. I think the weekly threads have really taken attention away from the official game threads. Stuff that people might say in those threads are now always being thrown in the weekly thread instead where they will get more attention. But for those of you guys who like the game, keep at it. Times are hard since it's getting blasted by people left and right. I played the game exclusively for 2 weeks, now I'm back to SF4 only. I like it, but not enough to really dedicate my time to it. It'll be more of a casual game for me.
Karsticles
Member
Personally, I appreciate Dahbomb's intelligent contributions.
scytheavatar
Member
The bigger problem than time is the assist gems, because they have a tremendous effect in the gameplay and threaten to break it. Autotech and autoblock is bad enough; autotech kills the throw game which means the death of the footsies/frame trap game since they only work when people have to fear being thrown. Autoblock is supposed to be a crutch for n00bs who don't know how to block, but for an experienced player who already can block it kills whatever mixups that he might not be able to block. The meter cost is negligible compared to benefits they bring, because the damage you can do with those meters isn't comparable to the damage your opponent can do off a hit PLUS even worse the health he can gain back from a safe tag opportunity. Even the easy input is terribad, it's essentially giving players an aimbot and the 10-20% damage decrease is a small price to pay for the benefits. Then the worst part is how stupid a lot of the DLC assist gems are, to the extent that they are blantant "pay to win" attempts that Capcom wants to advocate. 20% damage boast off all counter hits? Autotech for no meter? Autoblock for 1/8th bar? Autotech and autoblock and no chip for 1/4 bar?
I think if gems are to become playable in tourneys all DLC gems have to be banned, no question asked, and non-DLC assist gems probably will have to be banned too. That creates the question of what to ban and what not to ban, plus new players will be unhappy to turn out to tourneys to find their gems banned.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I've been saying from day one it should be a no-brainer to ban assist gems from competitive play. They're listed in their own pane in the gem configuration menu. They're officially "noob gems". Banning them should be no different than say, banning players selecting some equivalent easy input mode that certain other games have featured from time to time.
The real problem is that when playing online ranked randoms, there's no filter to avoid assist gem users. And/or assist gems should have been banned from ranked period.
But for tournaments, what's the controversy? Ban assist gems and let the public know in big letters "ASSIST GEMS ARE BANNED".
Yea it did bomb. Somewhere around 250k I think, which is just awful for a game this big.
SUPARSTARX
Member
SFxT did half mil world wide first three weeks. Not too bad but not great either.
It's because we're too busy actually playing the game to post about it
Good games today with pair play Sayah... I really need to get better at reading the opponent. I go for a counter randomly. I really want to pick up King just because I can't deal against ambiguous jumpins. I just wanted something to shut down things like Hugo's body splash and such. And when I was trying his combos, I'm just trying to do this combo that I saw combofiend do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvQNHIFR4U&t=3m28s
A low jab (or medium) into the u/f+4. Hopefully I'll have a more competant character in the future
It's because we're too busy actually playing the game to post about it
Good games today with pair play Sayah... I really need to get better at reading the opponent. I go for a counter randomly. I really want to pick up King just because I can't deal against ambiguous jumpins. I just wanted something to shut down things like Hugo's body splash and such. And when I was trying his combos, I'm just trying to do this combo that I saw combofiend do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvQNHIFR4U&t=3m28s
A low jab (or medium) into the u/f+4. Hopefully I'll have a more competant character in the future
Yes, ggs indeed. You were kicking ass today.
I noticed that after you do the launcher, your second character (in this case, King) is still sort of "running" initially. You have to wait for him to stop running and then start the uf+4. At least that's what I've noticed. Have barely even touched King but he seems like a good character to use.
I should probably also learn someone new. Right now, I just rotate Nina, Kazuya, Heihachi, and sometimes Lili. Not sure why, but the SF characters don't interest me in the slightest. Maybe b/c most of their play involves either heavyweights with charging and grabbing moves or shotos with their usual playstyles. Guile players are especially annoying online.
SolarPowered
Member
Those are fun to read. The traditional MahveGAF cycle of discussion is much worse than anything he could come up with.
At least with this game, it seems the typical trends are usually things you need to actually adapt to carefully, which should make you a better player. Even if those low-high target combos are being spammed/thrown out randomly, they are still good to practice against.
Pretty sure you'll find these trends in most online games (particularly fighters). At least it's not as bad as the whole "flowchart" phenomenon that SFIV gave rise to... man that got old quickly - both in terms of the players abusing those strategies and the jokes made about them.
ihearthawthats
Banned
i remember when the marvel thread died when dahbomb and a bunch of others got banned. kinda sad but kinda funny at the same time. dahbomb is like the lifeline of the marvelgaf thread.Those are fun to read. The traditional MahveGAF cycle of discussion is much worse than anything he could come up with.
Fixed for you lol.
For clarification I wasn't hating on bombs posts, just noting how his posts are written out as deep ass theory fighter. I mean if you want info about a character/assist/team combo/anything, he's the dude in that thread to ask lol.
Played some matches last night and I have a few questions. Is Laws air to air game just reall bad or is there some sort of trick or ideal time to go for air to airs? It seems against characters like Xiaoyu, jin and raven my air to airs lose 80% of the time even if I'm preempting a jump in. It's ridiculous.
When I'm up against Law, I'll always try to stay in the air as much as possible.
It feels like he has no reliable AA-game.
Also, his EX punch move with all that invulnerability is not really punishable on block, so neutral jump to avoid it and then murder coming down is the way I go about dealing with it.
diztrukted
Member
theres a marvel thread?
pce
pce
right he has no aa, that's why I back dash, forward dash and try to air to air preemptively. Problem is it seems to me his air to air game is horrible.
WesternHeretic
Member
What were they shooting for?
Ya that has bopped me a few times. There's also his leg out special at right angles too.
A lot of times losing air to air, is because you try to pick HK/HP/MK/MP, but in this game LP/LK's are my go to air to air, because on counter hit they lead to juggle state and free big damage.
Kazuya jump LK is a great example, and works wonders against Juri's who like to jump a lot.
The Lone Dragon
Member
The only think we know is a 2 million figure, which either means lifetime sales or 2 million shipped to retailers. Don't know about actual sales expectations, though.
Sven's recent comments seem to imply that it's doing okay. Or at least that it's not bombing as badly as people want to hope.
By the way, nice matches: http://youtu.be/nKoksCiJCgM
Ryan Hart vs Taaha
I was immediately drawn to Asuka in the beginning, but there's almost no reliable way to get inside on people and her AA game is almost non existent, so she's relegated to the second character slot. I've recently discovered that her surface-to-air grab (F, D, DF+P) can be very reliable when responding to cross up pressure while blocking low, using the motion shortcut (while blocking low, DF, DB, DF+P). Been doing much better since figuring that out, but still can't find a way to get inside on offense safely. She's purely a defensive/reactionary character for me right now.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Not sure. But it's lower than SF4 and MVC3 at launch I believe. With all the negative PR at launch, not too surprised but it didn't flop IMO.
SF4 had good world wide sales. MVC3's sales were mostly in U.S. and that was good.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Lol.
Not sure if this was posted, but SFxT is up on steam for pre-orders:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/209120/?snr=1_4_4__105
http://store.steampowered.com/app/209120/?snr=1_4_4__105
ihearthawthats
Banned
well they are putting a whole lot of effort into the vita version...
AnkiRendan
Member
Where's the one with that guy who ducks under SFxT to avoid it? I found that one funnier.
Liferebooted
Banned
Same on 360, worst gaming purchase of the year probably.
The Lone Dragon
Member
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