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Survivor 28: Cagayan |OT| Colby votes out Keith again

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Azula said:
The person that makes everyone miserable daily. The person that keeps screwing up in challenges.
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Just finished watching the first episode. Wow, didn't expect J’Tia to stay on, laughed my ass off when Garrett was voted out.
Partly because of the blindside (and him not even bringing his idol to tribe council lol), but also because he was the only person on their tribe who seemed physically fit. Instead, they keep the worst person, both socially (although Garrett didn't seem too bright either) and in challenges. But I guess that's how survivor works sometimes. Like a few seasons ago, when a tribe decided to give their win to another tribe just to vote one of their own out. Dumb shit happens, that's what keeps it entertaining.
 
Kiriku said:
Just finished watching the first episode. Wow, didn't expect J’Tia to stay on, laughed my ass off when Garrett was voted out.
Partly because of the blindside (and him not even bringing his idol to tribe council lol), but also because he was the only person on their tribe who seemed physically fit. Instead, they keep the worst person, both socially (although Garrett didn't seem too bright either) and in challenges. But I guess that's how survivor works sometimes. Like a few seasons ago, when a tribe decided to give their win to another tribe just to vote one of their own out. Dumb shit happens, that's what keeps it entertaining.
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Garrett actually wasn't in good shape for the show. He was so incredibly whiny because he came in with 0 body fat. His muscles were immediately being eaten for fuel because his body didn't have far.
 
kirblar said:
Garrett actually wasn't in good shape for the show. He was so incredibly whiny because he came in with 0 body fat. His muscles were immediately being eaten for fuel because his body didn't have far.
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Yeah...Probst said something about that in the EW recap:

Garrett underestimated how physically difficult this game would be. You can tell by his body that he takes extremely good care of himself and his sculpted body -- in part -- comes from eating an extremely balanced and well timed diet consisting mostly of proteins. So four days of existing on only handfuls of rice is very tough on his system. This isn’t an excuse, it’s just the truth. Someone whose diet is a bit more average doesn’t have the same reaction.
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You wouldn't think someone would be in too good a shape to play Survivor, but apparently it's possible.

Or it's just Probst trying to explaining why an obvious crush candidate of his didn't do so well.
 
kirblar said:
Garrett actually wasn't in good shape for the show. He was so incredibly whiny because he came in with 0 body fat. His muscles were immediately being eaten for fuel because his body didn't have far.
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I can definitely see that happening, although it did seem like he was doing a lot of hard work during that last challenge compared to his team mates. Him being in 'bad' shape was probably still an asset to the brains team from a physical point of view. But I imagine he would've become less and less useful with time.
 
matthewwhatever said:
Yeah...Probst said something about that in the EW recap:



You wouldn't think someone would be in too good a shape to play Survivor, but apparently it's possible.

Or it's just Probst trying to explaining why an obvious crush candidate of his didn't do so well.
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Yeah, that's definitely a real thing. I've heard Rob talk about this a lot on his podcast, and he's brought it up again in regards to Garret. You want to go out there with some excess fat to burn through. If you don't have that, the lack of food will start hitting you really fast.
 
matthewwhatever said:
You wouldn't think someone would be in too good a shape to play Survivor, but apparently it's possible.
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I think this has happened a few times, though I'm not fanatical enough to remember who (though I've only missed a season or two).

Big bodies take more fuel and generally react more violently to the lack of it.

On a similar note I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more people react horribly to it. Perhaps the medical check stops diabetics or such from getting on the show. Since I was a child if I didn't eat regularly I'd get horrible headaches and usually throw up. Still happens today and literally almost happened today because I was busy and delayed my first meal.
 
Let's be honest though, Survivor isn't even close to being as intense as it was before. They get a ton of food and tools early on compared to the earlier seasons.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
Yeah, that's definitely a real thing. I've heard Rob talk about this a lot on his podcast, and he's brought it up again in regards to Garret. You want to go out there with some excess fat to burn through. If you don't have that, the lack of food will start hitting you really fast.
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I knew about the excess fat part -- I've read Tyson talking about it (or maybe someone here posted it, I can't remember), about how it totally screwed up his body because he didn't have the weight to lose.

I just figured that if someone was in really good shape, then being out on a tropical island, eating loads of rice and beans and doing lots of physical activity, would be good for sustaining that...maybe since so many people on the show reach a point a few weeks in where they look like that? But I guess it's more like a continuum of a little flabby --> really amazing body after a few weeks on the island --> looking like a skeleton if you're still there near the end. Arriving with the amazing body just puts you that much closer to being skeletal.
 
IceCold said:
Let's be honest though, Survivor isn't even close to being as intense as it was before. They get a ton of food and tools early on compared to the earlier seasons.
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Definitely not. I remember older seasons when survivors would drink unboiled water just because they couldn't make fire. Food would run low and it'd be too bad since they should have rationed better. I believe the reason for the change is because when survivors are, well, surviving, they do a lot less. I'm not a fan of this change. I really enjoyed seeing survivors figure out how to survive.
 
Bboy AJ said:
Definitely not. I remember older seasons when survivors would drink unboiled water just because they couldn't make fire. Food would run low and it'd be too bad since they should have rationed better. I believe the reason for the change is because when survivors are, well, surviving, they do a lot less. I'm not a fan of this change. I really enjoyed seeing survivors figure out how to survive.
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I dunno, I think having a very limited supply of food for the survivors will just result in them lying around complaining about being hungry a lot more. Also, it's hard to think and strategize when you're hungry, and that's the most entertaining thing about Survivor for me.
The Swedish version of Survivor focused more and more on the physical challenges of Survivor, limiting the food supply and pushing survivors a lot harder in challenges. Gets kind of boring and predictable IMO.
There's a balance between the two, but I guess Survivor could move a couple of steps towards actual survival without screwing things up.
 
Bboy AJ said:
Definitely not. I remember older seasons when survivors would drink unboiled water just because they couldn't make fire. Food would run low and it'd be too bad since they should have rationed better. I believe the reason for the change is because when survivors are, well, surviving, they do a lot less. I'm not a fan of this change. I really enjoyed seeing survivors figure out how to survive.
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Kiriku said:
I dunno, I think having a very limited supply of food for the survivors will just result in them lying around complaining about being hungry a lot more. Also, it's hard to think and strategize when you're hungry, and that's the most entertaining thing about Survivor for me.
The Swedish version of Survivor focused more and more on the physical challenges of Survivor, limiting the food supply and pushing survivors a lot harder in challenges. Gets kind of boring and predictable IMO.
There's a balance between the two, but I guess Survivor could move a couple of steps towards actual survival without screwing things up.
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I fall somewhere between you two. Those early seasons where the focus was more on survival were occasionally pretty miserable. That said, it was pretty awesome when you'd see people make fire...it seemed like a huge accomplishment for everyone who did it.
 
Damn, this weather is absolutely brutal. That rain looks bad enough, before you even see the vicious wind.

Hours Left said:
I really don't understand this idea that people shouldn't reveal they are cops. Who cares?
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His thinking seemed to be that people would feel threatened and believe that he's a smart, analytical guy because he's a cop.

That's not exactly the read I have on cops, but he doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck.
 
I hate that the game has revolved around idols for so long now. Last season and the first episode of this season showed just how dynamic, interesting, and fun it can be when there isn't a huge emphasis placed on finding and keeping the incredibly powerful, inanimate pseudo-player that the idol has become.
 
SecretMoblin said:
I hate that the game has revolved around idols for so long now. Last season and the first episode of this season showed just how dynamic, interesting, and fun it can be when there isn't a huge emphasis placed on finding and keeping the incredibly powerful, inanimate pseudo-player that the idol has become.
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They're a net positive as they help create tension post-merge if you don't end up with a cult of personality with them.
 
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