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[Cygnus X-1]

i hope so

BRING IT

Actually, I played Fusion with the constant fear to find SA-X everywhere, coming out of nowhere. Particularly in sector 5.

 

[beelzebozo]

and that's the way it should be.

if theoretically they do use the x virus in this game, i sure hope they can do right what retro failed to in CORRUPTION.

 

[MoogPaul]

I went to go look for my Fusion, but it wasn't in the box. :-( I wanted to play it on my way to Bonnaroo

 

[Dreamwriter]

Fusion was a GREAT game...but not a great Metroid game. Metroid is about exploration, Fusion they reserved exploration for two things: collecting each and every missile/energy tank, and sequence breaking. Two things which I don't care about. Heck, much of the game was level-based, and they'd even tell you where to go in the level as you started it.

So I really hope that this new Metroid game has true Metroid-style exploration.

 

[bdouble]

I just saw it on amazon :| What the fuck.
Why not buy it used though?

Oh I'm going to but I was just surprised by the price.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Meh. I bought Fusion recently, used, for $10. Hell, even that seemed kind of high for a used game that's 7 years old.

 

[MoogPaul]

Meh. I bought Fusion recently, used, for $10. Hell, even that seemed kind of high for a used game that's 7 years old.

it's 5 bucks at gamestop

 

[Wired All Wrong]

I went to go look for my Fusion, but it wasn't in the box. :-( I wanted to play it on my way to Bonnaroo

Lucky bastard. I went the first 3 years and it was a blast. I need to get out there again. Have fun. Sucks about the missing Metroid though.

 

[ivysaur12]

Fusion was a GREAT game...but not a great Metroid game. Metroid is about exploration, Fusion they reserved exploration for two things: collecting each and every missile/energy tank, and sequence breaking. Two things which I don't care about. Heck, much of the game was level-based, and they'd even tell you where to go in the level as you started it.

So I really hope that this new Metroid game has true Metroid-style exploration.

Well, they compared it to Fusion, so that worries me a bit. But it's still a great game.

 

[webrunner]

i hope so

BRING IT

SAX was a brilliant device... putting your new, weaker samus up against the one you were at the end of the last game- an unstoppable destructive force of nature.

 

[Davey Cakes]

The SA-X fight was pretty pathetic, now that I think about it. Just space jump up to one of the platforms, drop back down, shoot SA-X when it appears, rinse, repeat.

If you're good you can beat it without even getting hit.

 

[beelzebozo]

The SA-X fight was pretty pathetic, now that I think about it. Just space jump up to one of the platforms, drop back down, shoot SA-X when it appears, rinse, repeat.

If you're good you can beat it without even getting hit.

still, actual danger and the illusion or fear of danger are two different things. i would almost argue that the latter is better, so far as game design goes.

 

[KevinCow]

Fusion was a GREAT game...but not a great Metroid game. Metroid is about exploration, Fusion they reserved exploration for two things: collecting each and every missile/energy tank, and sequence breaking. Two things which I don't care about. Heck, much of the game was level-based, and they'd even tell you where to go in the level as you started it.

There wasn't even much in the way of sequence breaking in Fusion. If I recall correctly, the only power-up you can skip is the Diffusion Missiles through a crazy series of shinesparks.

Though I wouldn't say it was as devoid of exploration as you're implying. While they did tell you where to go, there was usually some exploration involved in figuring out exactly how to do so.

 

[Ranger X]

He meant on-rails in the way that any 2.5D platformer is "on-rails." It wouldn't limit exploration.

Let me bet this game is 3D but not open. Just like Ninja Gaiden.

.

 

[KevinCow]

Let me bet this game is 3D but not open. Just like Ninja Gaiden.

.

I will take you up on that bet and say that this game is going to be mostly 2.5D with the occasional 3D room.

 

[bengraven]

So I'm assuming:

Short haired blonde = Samus

Long haired blonde = evil Samus clone?

There seems to be a huge "I am Samus Aran" "No I am" vibe coming from it. And of course, there is the subtitle of the game.

 

[Princess Skittles]

I have one request.

Please let the actual Metroids be dangerous creatures.

They haven't been a threat since the NES game (and Zero Mission, mostly).

 

[Linkhero1]

I bought Fusion and Zero Mission combined for a total of $12.

I thought they were both easy, but I really enjoyed them. I loved the end of Zero Mission where

Spoiler

you play as Zero Suit Samus

 

[EmCeeGramr]

So I'm assuming:

Short haired blonde = Samus

Long haired blonde = evil Samus clone?

There seems to be a huge "I am Samus Aran" "No I am" vibe coming from it. And of course, there is the subtitle of the game.

From the interview:

1UP: I noticed that at the end of the trailer there appeared to be another Samus. What role does she play?

YS: She's not actually a second Samus, but she's a very, very important character within the game.

 

[bengraven]

From the interview:

:/

So basically that's another knock against the character design that they look so similar?

 

[Kard8p3]

Someone start investing in a time machine please. I'd like to play this game as soon as possible.

 

[Princess Skittles]

Someone start investing in a time machine please. I'd like to play this game as soon as possible.

88 mph.

 

[Neo C.]

They tend to use the "+" to mean just "with" and "X" to mean "integrated with".. the idea is that Project M is really a merging of two teams, not two separate teams both working on the game.

Exactly. It's a small difference which the guy in the "frame by frame analysis" didn't know. Simply because it's more a japanese thing.

 

[BorkBork]

Someone start investing in a time machine please. I'd like to play this game as soon as possible.

 

[acidviper]

Set it for 2011, but you know it will be 2012 delayed

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Fusion was a GREAT game...but not a great Metroid game.

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I love the 2D Metroids and then I love Retro's Metroids. MP had such an amazing atmosphere and the music was godly.

 

[EphemeralDream]

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

Not to mention that the Metroids have a more diverse feel than most fans are willing to admit. Some people say that the first Metroid was the only "real" Metroid or Super Metroid is what the series should be. And then there's Prime which is a bit more slow and plodding (literally) while Fusion and Corruption are a bit more actiony. So how do so many fans have this idea that such and such wasn't a good metroid when they've all felt different to some extent?

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

I wish you could burn this post into everyone's brains.

 

[Femmeworth]

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

I <3 you man.

 

[darkpaladinmfc]

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

Don't forget Metroid Prime :lol .

 

[Davey Cakes]

No Metroid game is truly bad.

I'd say Metroid Fusion is a good Metroid game and a good game in general. However, as I've mentioned before, it is bottom tier to me mostly because it's just not what I want out of a Metroid game. The extreme feeling of linearity and hand-holding just didn't do it for me, which is why I'd easily put Zero Mission above it.

Acknowledging that something is good, but just not your thing, is better than straight-up saying that a game just doesn't fit well into its respective series.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Goddamnit, I wish people would quit fucking saying this. Everytime there's a game in the series that does something different, people pull out the "Great game, but not a great (series) game" thing.

In the past month, I've heard this on GAF about FFXII, Shadow Hearts 2, Phantom Hourglass, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Dragon Quest VIII, GTA4, and inexplicably Metal Gear Sold Rising.

If it doesn't fit someone's preconceived notion of what the series is, but is still enjoyable, this one is pulled out. You guys don't decide what the series is, the games decide what the series is.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone who says this is a great poster, but not a great poster about games.

This needs to be posted in the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow thread. Half the people in there keep babbling nonsensically about how it looks like a good game but not a Castlevania game.

 

[wsippel]

Nobody posted the IGN interview yet?

 

[Azure J]

Shocking Alberto for God Tier, seriously.

 

[RagnarokX]

Is it possible that the woman that looks sorta like Samus is her mother or a clone of her mother?

 

[bengraven]

Don't forget Metroid Prime :lol .

SMB2. LoZ2. lol

 

[leroidys]

No Metroid game is truly bad.

I'd say Metroid Fusion is a good Metroid game and a good game in general. However, as I've mentioned before, it is bottom tier to me mostly because it's just not what I want out of a Metroid game. The extreme feeling of linearity and hand-holding just didn't do it for me, which is why I'd easily put Zero Mission above it.

Acknowledging that something is good, but just not your thing, is better than straight-up saying that a game just doesn't fit well into its respective series.

I disagree, NES Metroid sucks :lol . It's almost unplayable for me now, the farming energy is just such a pain in the ass.

But yeah, love ZM (this is one of the most warranted remakes ever IMO), Fusion, Super, Prime - all are great, and other M looks fucking awesome as well.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

and that's the way it should be.

if theoretically they do use the x virus in this game, i sure hope they can do right what retro failed to in CORRUPTION.

Actually, exploring the abandoned space ship, I assure you that I was very nervous. I always had the impression that some terrible thing could happen behind Samus's shoulders.

 

[Socreges]

the interview with the R&D1 dude was pretty comforting. exploration will be a big part and, given his roundabout way of talking, i´d guess the game will be largely 2.5 D

 

[KevinCow]

I disagree, NES Metroid sucks :lol . It's almost unplayable for me now, the farming energy is just such a pain in the ass.

Yeah, but I kinda forgive it due to the hardware it was on, as well as the fact that we got a remake.

No Metroid game since the second has been anything less than good, and no non-spin-off game since Super has been anything less than great.

 

[D.Lo]

and that's the way it should be.

if theoretically they do use the x virus in this game, i sure hope they can do right what retro failed to in CORRUPTION.

Huh? Corruption is set before the discovery of X. It's the 'Phazon' story arc.

It is a bit weak that there are two nasty substances and both were involved in creating a clone of Samus, but cloning was always a theme in Metroid.

 

[leroidys]

Yeah, but I kinda forgive it due to the hardware it was on, as well as the fact that we got a remake.

No Metroid game since the second has been anything less than good, and no non-spin-off game since Super has been anything less than great.

Yeah definitely, I'm sure it was awesome when it came out, but I never had an NES as a kid (and I'm sure I would have lacked the skills to get anywhere anyway)

Metroid might even beat mario for me in terms of sustained quality.

 

[Kard8p3]

Huh? Corruption is set before the discovery of X. It's the 'Phazon' story arc.

It is a bit weak that there are two nasty substances and both were involved in creating a clone of Samus, but cloning was always a theme in Metroid.

You could probably look at it as weak but I thought both were pulled off pretty well (though I liked it in fusion better.)

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

we're also working with a company called D-Rockets, led by a director named Mr. Kitaura. In total, with the the three companies combined that make Project M, we have over 100 people on our staff.

Here you have the third company, D-rockets.

Huh? Corruption is set before the discovery of X. It's the 'Phazon' story arc.

It is a bit weak that there are two nasty substances and both were involved in creating a clone of Samus, but cloning was always a theme in Metroid.

Even maybe the main theme of the saga.

Its like Samus want to stops all this clones being done by pirates and the galactic Federation.
From all the Ridleys to the Metroids. Even the X an Phazon Samus.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Is it possible that the woman that looks sorta like Samus is her mother or a clone of her mother?

That's what I thought, for lack of a better idea.

 

[beelzebozo]

Huh? Corruption is set before the discovery of X. It's the 'Phazon' story arc.

It is a bit weak that there are two nasty substances and both were involved in creating a clone of Samus, but cloning was always a theme in Metroid.

i know. i was just speaking specifically to the concept of an evil samus hunting you down. i thought the sa-x was handled much better than dark samus, is all i was saying.

 

[abstract alien]

i know. i was just speaking specifically to the concept of an evil samus hunting you down. i thought the sa-x was handled much better than dark samus, is all i was saying.

A lot better. It got to the point where I didnt even care about dark samus. To be honest MP3 spoiler ahead,

Spoiler

fighting the girl in prime 3 that changes into samus(forgot her name) had more weight behind it than dark samus ever did. She always seemed so...weak, and not worthy lol.

 

[P90]

This is better than I could have imagined. I'm pre-ordering copies for my entire family and friends.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

A lot better. It got to the point where I didnt even care about dark samus. To be honest MP3 spoiler ahead,

Spoiler

fighting the girl in prime 3 that changes into samus(forgot her name) had more weight behind it than dark samus ever did. She always seemed so...weak, and not worthy lol.

I love the three hunters in prime 3. Never gave a shit about Dark Samus as the main villian of the phazon arch, even from Prime 2. Even Ridley was better handed in Prime (and also 3) as a villiain (but of course, ha have alway been great in all the games, specially in Zero and the manga).

He is the true boss behind all the pirate schemes, not Mother Brain. He even tries a betray in the manga.