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(TGS22 Overview) Xbox at TGS
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BabyfaceRe
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HUGE seems like a bit of an overstatement based on this presentation alone. Bringing these games over to Xbox is nice but hardcores have already played them and casuals are way more interested in new games. Some of those titles are 2 gens old a this point, doesnt make them bad but it DOES make them less relevant.
If this results in MS getting some solid relationships with Level-5, Team Ninja etc for the future, THEN its HUGE. But we are yet to see any evidence for that. For example Wo Long being day one game pass is probably their biggest Japanese deal right now, and that immediately got countered by Team Ninja announcing a true PS5 exclusive for 2024.
Its impossible to see this as a bad thing, but its foundational at best and does nothing to change the argument regarding Japanese games on xbox.
Too many petty people in here that care far too much about what some fanbase gets to play. I mean grow the fuck up, more exposure means a better chance for sequels and a bigger budget for some of these less known titles. It taps into a new market and generates devs more money for their older games to be put into future titles. As I get older I just don't get fanboyism, seems so juvenile and idiotic to waste your time on a company that you don't work for or with.
On topic, I'm excited to finally try out Ni No Kuni and there are a few other titles that look really interesting.
On topic, I'm excited to finally try out Ni No Kuni and there are a few other titles that look really interesting.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes game pass day 1.
Fredrik
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Or they’re just late ports like any other late port and if Sony want exclusivity they’ll pay for it and get it like what happened with Final Fantasy after a couple releases on Xbox.
The sooner we all accept that we need all platforms the sooner we’ll all stop fighting about these stupid platform bubbles and can happily just game on like we should instead of sitting here talking crap about stuff we can’t do anything about anyway.
I’ve fully accepted that I’ll always need a Xbox, Playstation and Nintendo console going forward. I’m not happy but I’m in the acceptance stage.
abacab driver
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I'm starting to see people saying this..so let's get this straight:
Last time I checked, Xbox didn't have any "true exclusives" because they're only console exclusive/on PC.
...but console exclusives on the PS5 are considered "true exclusives"?
Are console exclusives the new exclusives or aren't they?
For all we know, Rise of the Ronin could be on PC gamepass day and date.
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graywolf323
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it could be on PC day one but it won’t be on PC GamePass given what we know about Sony’s marketing agreements
but otherwise your point stands I think, there’s a lot of hypocrisy from people who claim Xbox games are not truly exclusive as long as it comes to PC & that’s why it’s fine when MS buys publishers but oddly enough don’t have the same view when it comes to PlayStation exclusives that also release on PC
I think they’ve moved onto how GamePass allows streaming to your mobile device as to why Xbox’s approach is better and therefore not really taking games from others (but when Sony does it they are stealing games from gamers)
Black_Stride
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Bernd Lauert
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JTCx
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Yeah but it's through the caveat of Microsoft paying for the publisher to put the game onto a service. The end customer isn't the driving factor here, so the publisher still isn't getting direct line to the customer because the service is acting as an abstraction layer.
I mean it's still a bag and if MS is offering a fat bag for Japanese publishers why wouldn't they take it? That said, I'm sure ultimately the publishers would prefer not to leverage Microsoft or GamePass as a financial dependency; being able to establish a revenue stream directly with customers on the platform is always preferable because that allows for more financial independence.
Plus you never know how charitable Microsoft will be in future payouts for that 3P content into the service, let alone other things like if the subscribers are actually playing the game and if so, how far, how invested are they into it etc. all directly correlating to the likelihood they become actual fans and are willing to buy the next installment if in case a service like GamePass isn't one of the optional routes for playing it.
So respect to Microsoft for making these kind of moves but also we have to acknowledge it's very much a double-edged sword.
Badlucktroll
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When is konamis?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
have you got any proof it didn't make enough money to cover the port? or just making it up? when you look at what devs have been paid for games on gamepass I would suggest they got more than enough to cover it
64bitmodels
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I'm glad Xbox is actually taking initiative to make it an at least decent place to play Japanese games... but these games are all so old. My thread is proven right once again, unless we get day and date Japanese games on gamepass Japan still isn't showing they care about Xbox.
EDMIX
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Thats merely a guess based on that its sequel is not on Series X or XONE and my statement was that it could also have been that it sold very little
As in, could be it didn't cover the port OR the port sold very little. Either reason could be why we are not seeing a sequel, as in it could have covered the port, but the extra profit may have not been enough to get Square to keep doing that or something.
They probably just want MS to pay for it. I'm sure they probably did get more then enough to pay for the port, but it may have not been a huge amount.
Black_Stride
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Obviously im faking my love of Japanese games because Xbox is getting some.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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BabyfaceRe
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I actually meant it was a "next gen" exclusive as in only on PS5 not PS4, but the language around that is messy as fuck atm. But yeah the point was MS got a game pass deal, PS got a next gen exclusive deal. One is clearly better than the other.
The exclusivity conversation is confusing as fuck and different for different ppl. For me personally I never include PC into an exclusivity question. I always ask "can I play it on PS or Xbox, or both", I assume PC will have everything and that is more true than ever nowadays. But I admit a LOT of ppl dont see it that way.
Obviously it wont be on gamepass day one because it's a PS5 exclusive.......... (unless you know of other PS5 exclusives that dropped day one on gamepass, sounds like you're talking through your bum.)
playsaves3
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I didn’t know you had a switch can we be Friends then?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Bernd Lauert
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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DenchDeckard
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Some serious spin about gamepass.
All anyone should care about as a game pass subscriber is what games turn up..and that good consistent games keep arriving. I don't need to know the inside baseball behind every deal...just keep the games coming.
Hope Microsoft keep delivering games like Wo long on gamepass. Amazing get.
All anyone should care about as a game pass subscriber is what games turn up..and that good consistent games keep arriving. I don't need to know the inside baseball behind every deal...just keep the games coming.
Hope Microsoft keep delivering games like Wo long on gamepass. Amazing get.
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yeah, as a consumer, you should only be concerned whether you get some good value out of your subscription.
anthony2690
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sword & fairy 7 announced for xbox as well.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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anthony2690
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That was already listed in the main post
As first Fuga game got added to game pass as well
(I hope Xbox posts ni no kuni & Fuga on the second drop of game pass for the second half of the month, as people may miss both games otherwise)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That was already listed in the main post
As first Fuga game got added to game pass as well
I think the "Coming soon" blog post Tuesday should cover both the upcoming and the games released during the TGS window.
It is a hell of a 2nd half for the month after the lackluster first half.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202209/17276469.htmlOverdose of betrayal.
--Speaking of Xbox Game Studios, in June you announced a partnership with Hideo Kojima's Kojima Productions.
Phil: Kojima-san and I have known each other for many years. He had some novel ideas about gaming experiences and we wanted to partner with him to bring them to life on our platform. I visited Kojima Productions today and got to see some of the early stages of the project, and I'm very excited.
Early stages. And when will she come out? In five years?
Sure nobody on Xbox plays these games they just cap cause it's on game pass.
anthony2690
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Yes, nobody, I really hate this generalisation tbh.
I am playing Ni No Kuni Remastered right now on game pass, I'll purchase it on sale if it never gets a retail release. (I've finished it on the switch prior) but I'm replaying it now as I really like the game!
I'm beyond excited about Guilty Gear Strive, Blazblue Cross Tag Battle coming to Xbox/game pass too
A series I was introduced to on Xbox with guilty gear reload.
& Blazblue I've been playing since Calamity Trigger on the Xbox 360 and was gutted to see it leave the platform.
Not only that my upcoming preorders for japanese titles:
Diofield Chronicles
Persona 5 Royal
Final Fantasy 7 Crises Core Reunion
Tales of Symphonia.
& I plan to preorder the like a dragon games too & the upcoming street fighter 6/Tekken 8!
I really hope game pass introduces more people to these games and hopefully these games gain new fans!
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Yes, nobody, I really hate this generalisation tbh.
I am playing Ni No Kuni Remastered right now on game pass, I'll purchase it on sale if it never gets a retail release. (I've finished it on the switch prior) but I'm replaying it now as I really like the game!
I'm beyond excited about Guilty Gear Strive, Blazblue Cross Tag Battle coming to Xbox/game pass too
A series I was introduced to on Xbox with guilty gear reload.
& Blazblue I've been playing since Calamity Trigger on the Xbox 360 and was gutted to see it leave the platform.
Not only that my upcoming preorders for japanese titles:
Diofield Chronicles
Persona 5 Royal
Final Fantasy 7 Crises Core Reunion
Tales of Symphonia.
& I plan to preorder the like a dragon games too & the upcoming street fighter 6/Tekken 8!
I really hope game pass introduces more people to these games and hopefully these games gain new fans!
You and like what 2 people we all know these games do better on Sony and Nintendo platforms, so take it easy on deciphering what's fact and fiction just stick going back to games like psyconauts, halo infinite, Forza horizon, and whatever Activision game that's out there for that system.
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The amount of salt on this post.
Haha, never fails. I hope he gets paid for all his effort.Congrats OP you've earned.
anthony2690
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You're just coming across as a silly console warrior, psychonauts 2 is on Playstation 4 as well, with 60fps on ps5, it's incredible, I highly recommend it too!
& Obviously there is more than three people on Xbox enjoying these Japanese titles, there is a lot of people enjoying these titles, just obviously lower than on switch & playstation.
& Maybe even more with game pass pushing these titles, I'm really hoping arc system works gains a lot of new fans with guilty gear strive on game pass, like sega has with Yakuza on game pass.
I don't think there is anything wrong with more people being able to enjoy games.
How could it be salt when it's sloppy seconds.
Me too but I have a problem when they cap that shit on Twitter. I also hate all corporate slaves I prefer PC. Don't like Sony ponies, Nintendrones and xbots neither.
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anthony2690
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Why would you care what someone thinks on twitter? I honestly think you twitter console warriors are all absolute losers, regardless of what your platform preference is.
Try enjoying games rather than arguing over silly shit.
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I enjoy I just don't enjoy cap for games you don't play and when father phil delegated to get games for you guys lie Bethesda buy outs and Activision deals.
anthony2690
Banned
Look, you clearly need help.
I made a thread about Xbox TGS22 overview.
They revealed lots of Japanese games coming to Xbox, some that I am personally very excited for.
You come in here and derail, and then start spouting console warrior crap and going on about twitter caps.
Grow up! It's beyond sad, especially when you realise you're probably an adult.
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Sure buddy these games have existed in other platform for years making a big deal about it isn't doing much since you like a pathetic platform then that's on you for waiting for so long.
Bernd Lauert
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anthony2690
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Yes, I have a preference for Xbox, not that it matters, as I enjoy all platforms and like seeing everything that comes to these platforms.
As mentioned in the past, I downsized, as it's difficult keeping up with one platform let alone three, same with juggling three friends lists (even if the switch one isn't the best due to the fact you can't invite friends on most games sadly) especially with family life, work etc
Playstation:
https://www.truetrophies.com/gamer/anthony2690/gamecollection
I pretty much purchased the ps4 for vanilla ggxrd & sfv back in the day, PS3 for bbcp:ex & the vita I really loved as a platform & I owned a ps5 as I was curious and it was pretty new and exciting, but shifted it after I hadn't turned it on for over 6 months and someone else could've obviously enjoyed it a lot more than me.
Xbox:
https://www.trueachievements.com/gamer/anthony2690/games
My only platform now, after downsizing.
Switch: sadly I don't think there is any sites that showcase what I played:
But I made a sales post when I shifted my switch + 27 games & this doesn't include the digital games I had and enjoyed either like grandia, star ocean R, Mushihimesama, Crimsom Clover etc.
I think all platforms are great and have loads to be excited for.
Surely the hobby is meant for enjoying and not arguing on twitter over?
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I don’t know, yet here we are, salting over ports.