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Thanksgiving: Native Americans Are Being Tear-Gassed in North Dakota
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In the article in the OP it says force was used to keep protesters off a barricated bridge one mile south of the pipeline construction site. So what exactly does talking about Thanksgiving do here? Do you think the police will just say "Heh fuck it, it's Thanksgiving, let's just let them through now"? All this does it trying to rile up people even more by throwing in something factually completely irrelevant to appeal to even more emotion.
Brutalising Native Americans on Thanksgiving is poignant, not irrelevant.
The comparison of today's events that are being ignored with past events that are widely accepted as being wrong helps highlight how equally wrong the present day events are, whilst reminding us how little has changed. I would say that's important.
Weren't those past events... a bit more brutal tho (than using tear gas)?
Still I don't see what people are expecting here in regards to it being Thanksgiving - you have to be incredibly naive to believe the police will just stand down and let them pass because it's a holiday.
Chuckie
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People aren't expecting anything. The thread title is just pointing out the irony of the situation.
The people in power before didn't give a shit
The Last Wizard
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If you trying to say there's a difference between police forces see the lapd and nypd.
Do you even GHS01/GHS04? That symbol is outdated.
NobleGundam
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Thanks Obama
B_Spooky13
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The point isn't the cops should take a day off.. We know and acknowledge that we stole this land from Natives and it was b.s... Jump to 2016, oh wow nothing has changed.
And to your more "brutal" comment.. These people who own this fucking land are getting blasted with cold water in freezing temps.. A girl had her arm basically blown off from the cops "less than lethal concussion grenade".. But yeah also dogs, tear gas and etc.. Still sounds pretty brutal to me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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tbf so are most containers. Just picked the first google result.
Vincent Alexander
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Soldiers on enemy sides stopped shooting each other on Christmas in World War 1. Hell, they even played a game of soccer. Can't remember the battle. So crazy shit has happened before. Just hoping some bit of humanity comes through. Though it probably won't.
...are you that "cold" of a human being?
Innocent blacks havent been getting killed?
Again, maybe I read it wrong, but in the article it states force was used when protestors tried to move onto the barricaded bridge. That's different than two opposite factions entrenched and immobilized coming out to play soccer in the middle.
ElectricThunder
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I've turned into a broken record in these threads by now but it bears repeating: This has gone on for months, there is no "Hmm.." about this being a bad situation all around, disregard the blatant shills and calls for calm, and REMEMBER that this was a thing that happened/is happening with ample approval from up top in particular on Obama's hands---don't give them the satisfaction of the dodgy short and long term memory that allows for this sort of thing to be easily taken for granted and levied against yet more innocent people time and again.
I guess maybe there's some hope in the coverage uptick across various places given instead of outright ignoring it there are a growing number of folks stepping up unbidden* to play devil's advocate...
I guess maybe there's some hope in the coverage uptick across various places given instead of outright ignoring it there are a growing number of folks stepping up unbidden* to play devil's advocate...
You think that's how it started?
I've also seen videos of protesters just walking an holding hands and being sprayed. It's been escalating and placing that ok the protestors is fucked up.
Norwegian_Imposter
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Its not a case of this situation is worse than this situation. Its barbaric what they are doing to people at this protest just like its bad what happens to innocent blacks.
The way america has treated the native americans is just disgraceful and the amount of whitewashing of it all so its a hear no evil see no evil situation makes this so bad. It doesn't make the killing of innocent blacks any less poignant either
NoblesseOblige
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Since I've stopped observing Thanksgiving I have been mulling over the ethical ramifications of accepting the holiday bonus I get for working today. At first I thought about turning it down but I don't even know how do to that since it just gets auto-deposited into my account and they'd probably just laugh if I called and said "hey, pay me less". So instead I've decided to take my extra earnings for working today and donate it to the causes in the OP.
Aaronology
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I think you missed "one of". This is in no way a competition, to boot. Black people at least have enough cultural power and population to make some semblance of noise about our oppression. Natives endure every single thing we do but without even that modicum of influence.
Since moving from Chicago to Albuquerque and getting a job that requires me to work closely with Apache on their reservations I've had my eyes opened even wider on how unrepentant this country continues to be in its dealings with this demographic. It's absolutely disgusting, and going to get even worse with the incoming office.
Chuckie
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This is great.
Bluekaveli
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That's why when I here this patriotic Americans say, "our country" I roll my damn eyes because it isn't your damn country. It's fucking Native land.
Out of sight and out of mind
No, I saw the one of. While this is bad I just cant see someone saying its "one of" when innocent people are getting KILLED.
And im not trying to say whats worst (oppression is oppression) but the actions on the oppressed can be said whats worse.
The problem is that constraction has continued despite that order, and the government has done nothing. Not said a word. According to the people on the ground, it looks like they are trying to bulldoze as many archeological and cultural sites as possible before that review happens.
NoblesseOblige
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I wish more dems would too, but Sanders is also not a dem.
Thank you so much.
Captin Quacker
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I still can't get over the fact this land belongs to them via a written agreement with the government
This shit is flat out illegal
This shit is flat out illegal
He's a damn good democrat and not even a democrat.
This is what I'm saying... disappointing af.
I saw a little bit about this earlier (on facebook if that matters >.>). What in the world is going on here? There's a treaty being violated and large groups of people besides the Sioux (ie state senators and such) saying that this pipeline is an awful idea but they're doing it anyway? The hell?
The Last Wizard
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Dissapointing definetely, but every president does this.
Same can be said for black people. These two peoples have constantly been shitted on by this country for no reason at all.
Another way to support everyone up there, Standing Rock's Amazon wish-list:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ls/ref...f_=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_ws_9qRnybRQHT9F1&ty=wishlist
Even if you don't have a lot of money, there's some items as cheap as $13 (as far as I can see. Bad internet where I'm at, so I've only been able to open the first page).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ls/ref...f_=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_ws_9qRnybRQHT9F1&ty=wishlist
Even if you don't have a lot of money, there's some items as cheap as $13 (as far as I can see. Bad internet where I'm at, so I've only been able to open the first page).
They're still out yass queening.
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