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the ANNO 1404 (DAWN OF DISCOVERY) |OT|
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Katana_Strikes
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Chapter VII was very enjoyable. I built a nice city with some great resourse management going on. It's a shame it had to end. Certainly my favourite chapter to date. The money was pilling in. Coffee can be sold for quite a nice sum.
What an awesome game, i can see myself easily playing it as much as 1701. The amount of detail is incredible! Anno games are so underrated outside of Germany, it's not even funny. How i can buy this for 35 euro and have to pay 50-60 euro for some crappy generic console game is beyond me.
Ok, I held out from page one but... bought. I'll almost be happy just to own the damn packaging if thats what it comes down to! ;pKatana_Strikes said:
But to make me feel like a bit less of a mug for buying something this DRM ridden...
^ Is this true, like any source? Thats not... too bad I guess.Victrix said:
Chris Remo
Member
Jesus Christ this game is gorgeous. I've never played an Anno game before I'm really considering jumping in with this one.
Chris Remo said:
i thought i heard you talk about it on idlethumbs in your "effortless to play" ui bit.
i've never used a more perfectly intuitive interface in my life. everything did exactly what i wanted it to the first time i clicked on it. i didn't even need a tutorial.
Chris Remo
Member
I mentioned Call of Juarez 2's interface in the latest cast--maybe that's what you're thinking of.ghst said:
Katana_Strikes
Member
Just finished the Campaign last night. Last mission was pretty cool although a bit of a bitch as you have a time limit. So trying to finish up in the required time as well as balancing resources and your money is a bit troublesome and took a few attempts to get it right. Actually went bankrupt on one try.:lol The key is to do as many side missions as possible to help with the main quest.
Put in well over 10 hrs in this mode alone. Will try continous and scenario modes next.
Gonna give it a solid 8/10 so far and up there with the best games I've played this year. Considering the ANNO I played years ago, I couldn't get in to and this game almost coming out of nowhere, I'm very pleasantly suprised.
Didn't care it didn't have multiplayer. Not sure I would have even bothered playing that side. Single player for me all the way here.
The key is to do as many side missions as possible to help with the main quest.Put in well over 10 hrs in this mode alone. Will try continous and scenario modes next.
Gonna give it a solid 8/10 so far and up there with the best games I've played this year. Considering the ANNO I played years ago, I couldn't get in to and this game almost coming out of nowhere, I'm very pleasantly suprised.
Didn't care it didn't have multiplayer. Not sure I would have even bothered playing that side. Single player for me all the way here.
Those PC screens up there look gorgeous. Alas, I only have the Wii version, but that is different enough stylistically not to bother me. It reminds me a lot of the old Space Station Tycoon game on XBLA a few years ago. I enjoyed that one; a simple balance between income/requirements/optimal use of land.
I can see this getting very addictive. Love the presentation on the wii version too.
I can see this getting very addictive. Love the presentation on the wii version too.
Caesar III
Member
So you agree that this Anno is a lot different to the previous ones? Online Multiplayer sucks, but Local MP is so awesomeKatana_Strikes said:
you miss something I tell you that.DieNgamers
Member
I don't know, I don't think it's that much of a difference, really. I still play 1701 from time to time and 1404 seems like redesigned version of that game. That's not a bad thing, imo.Caesar III said:So you agree that this Anno is a lot different to the previous ones? Online Multiplayer sucks, but Local MP is so awesome
I've bought Anno for wii. It's a fun and simple game so far. Seems a lot like the DS game I already have.
+ Pretty colors
+ Some funny animals and details
+ Ok pointers
? Very basic shapes on objects and landscapes
- some disorienting button use at first
- seems very much alike the ds game I got, maybe that could make me bored of it fast
+ Pretty colors
+ Some funny animals and details
+ Ok pointers
? Very basic shapes on objects and landscapes
- some disorienting button use at first
- seems very much alike the ds game I got, maybe that could make me bored of it fast
Caesar III
Member
same developerTailzo said:
@DieNgamers: 1701 was too easy. I don't even want to name it Anno tbh.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Caesar III said:So you agree that this Anno is a lot different to the previous ones? Online Multiplayer sucks, but Local MP is so awesome
Well I don't remember a lot about it. I think it might have been 1503 (?) I played. Just couldn't get into it at the time, I guess.
Been playing a lot of continous today. Though I may just start again and make the map smaller. It's pretty mental, other players taking over islands and hating me for colonising ones they want. That and I'm at war with 2 people and they keep blowing my boats up. A rethink is in order...
Anyways was playing with the postcard mode for the first time today. It's goddamn awesome. Really gets you a good feel of your city with some spectacular views. Took some photies anyways...
Beautiful game.
Wollan said:
This is great to know. Plan on picking this up today after work but the lack of reviews for this game is really annoying.
Does anyone know if the game at least as advertised well in Europe (understand this series on the PC is most popular there.)? I saw nothing for it in the US outside of gaming sites.
I have further impressions here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16382994&postcount=104
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16382994&postcount=104
Does housing have to be within a radius of a resource or special building in order to get the advantages of it (sort of resulting in a bunch of mini neighborhoods) or does it simply have to be on the placed down and connected to a road?
Meaning can you have housing all in one section, and resources on another part of the map and stores, etc in another section or must they all be mixed together?
Meaning can you have housing all in one section, and resources on another part of the map and stores, etc in another section or must they all be mixed together?
Katana_Strikes
Member
Effect said:
You can have a town area away from industry and farms etc, though there are radius affects (though not for housing in those cases). Certain buildings that citizens need like church, pub etc will need to be placed in your town so people get the benefits of that building.
Fragamemnon
Member
first of all, wtb annopedia. This game has atrocious, scandalously poor documentation.
http://www.anno1404-rechner.de/index.php?lang=en
Helps big time, but only goes so far-I'd like a breakout for tax revenues especially (how are they calculated?). I need MORE numbers because yo dog I heard you like spreadsheet gaming so we put a spreadsheet in your game so you could formulate while you contemplate and what not.
Anyone have any tips for Continuous Mode on medium or especially Hard? I'm having a bear of a time keeping up with the AI and often have to resort to all-in aggressive shenanigans in order to win games.
I think my problems are definitely seated in the midgame-the early game goes pretty quick, but eventually I stall out on econ/taxes trying to keep up with getting midgame goods like coffee for Envoys ( which in turn requires Mosaics ) and bread/beer/glass for Patricians.
I think part of my problem is simply insufficient tax base-I'm not building enough houses to max out my current facility usage, nor am I ramping up support chain to an appropriate level, and then getting mauled over supporting high-end good chains for populations that aren't large enough to pay for the the investment.
Also, currently I'm only building two tool shops at the start once I hit that part of tier 2,and I'm thinking it's just not enough, but it's an expensive chain and hate to double-up so fast right in tier 2. Also am thinking that only gathering from two stone quarries on my first island is also a mistake-I think I might need all three, but that's more expense. I usually do five lumberjacks, which seems about right if a little low.
What is working for you guys in continuous to help get a smooth start? Note that I play mostly default settings.
Enjoying the game, though I think the campaign chapters are dreadfully dull.
http://www.anno1404-rechner.de/index.php?lang=en
Helps big time, but only goes so far-I'd like a breakout for tax revenues especially (how are they calculated?). I need MORE numbers because yo dog I heard you like spreadsheet gaming so we put a spreadsheet in your game so you could formulate while you contemplate and what not.
Anyone have any tips for Continuous Mode on medium or especially Hard? I'm having a bear of a time keeping up with the AI and often have to resort to all-in aggressive shenanigans in order to win games.
I think my problems are definitely seated in the midgame-the early game goes pretty quick, but eventually I stall out on econ/taxes trying to keep up with getting midgame goods like coffee for Envoys ( which in turn requires Mosaics ) and bread/beer/glass for Patricians.
I think part of my problem is simply insufficient tax base-I'm not building enough houses to max out my current facility usage, nor am I ramping up support chain to an appropriate level, and then getting mauled over supporting high-end good chains for populations that aren't large enough to pay for the the investment.
Also, currently I'm only building two tool shops at the start once I hit that part of tier 2,and I'm thinking it's just not enough, but it's an expensive chain and hate to double-up so fast right in tier 2. Also am thinking that only gathering from two stone quarries on my first island is also a mistake-I think I might need all three, but that's more expense. I usually do five lumberjacks, which seems about right if a little low.
What is working for you guys in continuous to help get a smooth start? Note that I play mostly default settings.
Enjoying the game, though I think the campaign chapters are dreadfully dull.
DieNgamers
Member
Too easy, really? I grew up playing 1602 and find 1701 to be a very worthy game in the series.Caesar III said:same developer
@DieNgamers: 1701 was too easy. I don't even want to name it Anno tbh.
Not too easy as well but I like my playing my games in a comfortable way anyway. I never really liked the campaigns, Anno games (for me) are all about the endless mode!I think my personal ranking would be 1701>1602>>>1503 or something like this.
I have to play 1404 a bit more!
Only a half hour into the game (Wii version) but so far the interface is great. Surprised how smooth the game is and how good it looks. Didn't expect them to have the different language options as well. Voice work is well done too (only listened to the English voices so far). Though the tutorial does slow you down but used that from other games. Think I might very well pick up the PC version to go along with this (if the DRM issue is addressed in the future).Will have more thoughts later on.
Caesar III
Member
DieNgamers said:I never really liked the campaigns, Anno games (for me) are all about the endless mode![/qulte]I never liked and never played them as well.
My ranking is 1602>1503>1404>1701. If 1503 would have had Multiplayer it would be on number one.I think my personal ranking would be 1701>1602>>>1503 or something like this.
I have to play 1404 a bit more!
You can read my bullet points I don't like in the new Anno a few posts back.
Anyway have fun playing the new one
HurricaneJesus
Member
This game is beautiful but my PC wont do it justice.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
That's because people who HAVE NOT played the game are reviewing it.Effect said:
Chris Remo
Member
It's doing decently on Steam, was #6 last week and #3 the week before that.Effect said:
EDIT: Oh, you mean user reviews. I thought you meant sales ratings.
DevelopmentArrested said:
True. I can understand being upset about the DRM situation, at least the method they choose but those review scores don't reflect the quality of the game. They will get the attention of the publisher/developer though. They'll ask Amazon.com to look at the ratings but that wont' stop until they address the situation in some way. This has been done on Amazon.com in the past and it has gotten the attention of the right people. However what I don't understand is why the Steam version of the game even has the same DRM setup when Steam itself is a DRM system.
Glad I got the Wii version in the end though I do want to play the PC version.
Chris Remo said:
Yeah. Meant the reviews.
Fragamemnon
Member
User reviews of PC games on Amazon are completely unworkable nowadays. Don't even bother for anything that's come out in the last year or so-if it has DRM, the hater brigade one-stars games to oblivion.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
except for Spore. That game was a turd.Fragamemnon said:
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Holy shit @ those shots. I must have this game.
DieNgamers
Member
Thanks, I'm sure I'll have!DieNgamers said:I never really liked the campaigns, Anno games (for me) are all about the endless mode![/qulte]I never liked and never played them as well.
My ranking is 1602>1503>1404>1701. If 1503 would have had Multiplayer it would be on number one.
You can read my bullet points I don't like in the new Anno a few posts back.
Anyway have fun playing the new one
And yep, I read your points. I'll play 1404 much more when I have time so maybe I'll come back to that later.
Oh, and on the rankings, I love them all, actually. I couldn't get into 1701 for quite some time but after a year or so I gave it another chance and it sucked me in like no other game that year.
Always quality work with an awesome attention to detail and I'm really glad the series is finally getting some attention outside Germany. Your screens are awesome.Katana_Strikes said:
BananaBomb
Member
Good demo, but it doesn't really do a good job of showing off what sets it apart from other city builders - besides the graphics, of course...
Chris Remo
Member
Does the campaign ever let you keep your city from chapter to chapter? I'm having a lot of fun but there's always a moment of brief depression when a new chapter begins and I have to start with a city that's basically like the one I had before, but not quite.
couple of questions:
1.trying to make a small warship but i'm lacking one item that looks like the clay(?)icon? it's brown and square-roundish? haha sorry, my icons are so damn small. its under the wood icon.
2.how do you make bread? I have the crop field and the windmill but it says that the land isn't fertile enough? how do i make it fertile?
I have to agree with most here, the game looks awesome.
1.trying to make a small warship but i'm lacking one item that looks like the clay(?)icon? it's brown and square-roundish? haha sorry, my icons are so damn small. its under the wood icon.
2.how do you make bread? I have the crop field and the windmill but it says that the land isn't fertile enough? how do i make it fertile?
I have to agree with most here, the game looks awesome.
Caesar III
Member
@ taking over your city to the next mission NOT:
That is (for me) the biggest nogo in gaming nowadays! Empire does this as well and I HATE IT! I don't want to start all over again in "the way of independence part IV"
@ ^: you can only farm wheat where the symbols on top of the screen show that wheat is growing there. The only possibility is to buy some seeds from the oriental trader to make this land wheat-able.
sounds like cannons or something like that.
If the font is too small, try a 1280x1024 resolution. It seems this is the standard res and all others are downscaled and hard to read. Especially on CRT Monitors. A lot of people have the same problem in the German forums.
That is (for me) the biggest nogo in gaming nowadays! Empire does this as well and I HATE IT! I don't want to start all over again in "the way of independence part IV"
@ ^: you can only farm wheat where the symbols on top of the screen show that wheat is growing there. The only possibility is to buy some seeds from the oriental trader to make this land wheat-able.
sounds like cannons or something like that.
If the font is too small, try a 1280x1024 resolution. It seems this is the standard res and all others are downscaled and hard to read. Especially on CRT Monitors. A lot of people have the same problem in the German forums.
Darkflight
Member
Urgh, tired this morning, I just had to build one more damn marketplace didn't I, which then lead to more houses and a chapel then a pub etc. which pushed my mandatory West Wing episode for the night back, barely made the train this morning and now I just want to get back and see what the new buildings I got can do. I need to get a laptop so I can play at lunch. :lol
archnemesis
Member
It's probably weapons (made from iron) or rope (made from hemp).moowear said:
At the top of the screen, under the islands name, are several icons displaying different types of fertility. If your island is missing the wheat icon you need to either:moowear said:
Find another island a wheat icon.
Buy a seed in exchange for honor points from the Grand Vizier and plant it on your island.
Edit:
If it's the same icon as for trading vessels, then it's most likely rope. Build a ropemaker and make sure he has a steady supply of hemp.moowear said: