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The Evil Within PC Performance Thread

wtf at some of these shots

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Bethesda said they won't support over 60 FPS. Why is there no in-game menu option to change between 30 cap and 60 cap?
It's essentially moving a console command into a GUI.

Is it laziness? Did Tango just overlook it? I mean, it was pretty clear people wanted 60 FPS, if it wasn't crystal clear enough already from all the other games PC players have made 60 FPS a preference for.
 
justjustin said:
I played through Chapter 1 with a 560Ti 448 Core w/ 1GB vram. The game ran perfectly fine at 30fps in 1920x1080, high shadows, ssao enabled with smaa anti-aliasing. The first chapter takes place in tight spaces, so maybe the game will run worse later on but it'll probably be fine.

The only thing I noticed was distracting texture streaming. Every time the camera shifts in a cutscene all the textures look like mud for about .5 seconds.

Basically, it's further confirmation you do not need anything close to 4GB of vram.

edit: Also have i5 2500k, an ssd and 8GB of ram. Everything is at stock settings.
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Thanks for this post, i have the same specs!
 
LabouredSubterfuge said:
So am I to take it that we won't be getting any SLI support because this is idTech 5?
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Yes, that's correct. I get worse performance with 2x 970 than with a single 970.

Also, Tango/Bethesda has been very clear about the state of the PC-version.

"It's crap, and we won't do anything about it" is the current mentality.
 
GhostTrick said:
Looking at this thread, it seems people overreacted at recommended settings... AGAIN.
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Let be honest about the whole situation here. Who provided the system requirements? Who said they couldn't provide minimum system requirements before doing so anyway? Who said you should have an i7 as a minimum processor despite not stating which models or clock speed let alone the game not using Hyperthreading? Who said you should plan to have an obscene amount of VRAM? Who when quieried about this said if you don't meet 4gb you won't be playing at 1920x1080? Who when asked repeatedly if the game would run at 60frame per second or arbitrary frame rates stayed completely silent until the eleventh hour only to say you can but its not recommend? Who said you could remove the letter boxing but in fact all it does is crop the view?

The answer to every single one of those questions is Bethesda and the way they have communicated themselves has been comical to say the least. It probally has done them more harm than good and instead of reassuring potential customers it's probaly caused panic in them instead. The messaging on Wolfenstein wasn't great but it's laughable on The Evil Within. If you can't relay technical information to your potential customers in an accurate way or are relaying second or third hand information with out having answers on hand to secondary questions or have a concise explanation for why each recommendation has been stated then you're going to create this mess. I really, really hope Bethesda and their Staff that interact with the community learn for these mistakes going forward.
 
Dr Dogg said:
Let be honest about the whole situation here who provided the system requirements? Who said they couldn't provide minimum system requirements? Who said you should have an i7 as a minimum processor despite not stating which models or clock speed let alone the game not using Hyperthreading? Who said you should plan to have an obscene amount of VRAM? Who when quieried about this said if you don't meet 4gb you won't be playing at 1920x1080? Who when asked repeatedly if the game would run at 60frame per second or arbitrary frame rates stayed completely silent until the eleventh hour only to say you can but its not recommend? Who said you could remove the letter boxing but in fact all it does is crop the view?

The answer to every single one of those questions is Bethesda and the way they have communicated themselves has been comical to say the least. It probally has done them more harm than good and instead of reassuring potential customers it's probaly caused panic in them instead. The messaging on Wolfenstein wasn't great but it's laughable on The Evil Within. If you can't relay technical information to your potential customers in an accurate way or are relaying second or third hand information with out having answers on hand to secondary questions or have a concise explanation for why each recommendation has been stated then you're going to create this mess. I really, really hope Bethesda and their Staff that interact with the community learn for these mistakes going forward.
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The problem is that each time there's settings thread, people would just overreact OVER and OVER. Of course people could legitimately being worried, but in the end, the same thing happens over and over: Requirements means nothing.
 
Running very poorly on my machine. Though I'm behind the curve by a good bit.

4 GB Ram
Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHZ
GTX 460

Are there any .ini tweaks to make the game run a little smoother? I don't remember Wolfenstein being this choppy. The framerate console command didn't seem to help my performance.
 
Gloam said:
Running very poorly on my machine. Though I'm behind the curve by a good bit.

4 GB Ram
Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHZ
GTX 460

Are there any .ini tweaks to make the game run a little smoother? I don't remember Wolfenstein being this choppy. The framerate console command didn't seem to help my performance.
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Your CPU isn't even close to the requirements and your GPU is the bare minimum.
 
Gloam said:
Running very poorly on my machine. Though I'm behind the curve by a good bit.

4 GB Ram
Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHZ
GTX 460

Are there any .ini tweaks to make the game run a little smoother? I don't remember Wolfenstein being this choppy. The framerate console command didn't seem to help my performance.
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You're likely CPU limited my good friend. I had a Core 2 Duo E8400 before upgrading this year... This is a 6 years old CPU.
 
Question!
Can I run this game on my laptop with specs:

I7 4th gen 1.8ghz turbo boosts to 3ghz
8gb ram
2gb dedicated amd GPU vram + 1gb shared Intel vram
 
I went ahead and got the game anyway but...

At 1080p with:

AMD processor Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2GHz
Radeon 6870,
4GB ram

What do you guys think i'd be looking at performance wise?
 
Dr Dogg said:
Let be honest about the whole situation here. Who provided the system requirements? Who said they couldn't provide minimum system requirements before doing so anyway? Who said you should have an i7 as a minimum processor despite not stating which models or clock speed let alone the game not using Hyperthreading? Who said you should plan to have an obscene amount of VRAM? Who when quieried about this said if you don't meet 4gb you won't be playing at 1920x1080? Who when asked repeatedly if the game would run at 60frame per second or arbitrary frame rates stayed completely silent until the eleventh hour only to say you can but its not recommend? Who said you could remove the letter boxing but in fact all it does is crop the view?

The answer to every single one of those questions is Bethesda and the way they have communicated themselves has been comical to say the least. It probally has done them more harm than good and instead of reassuring potential customers it's probaly caused panic in them instead. The messaging on Wolfenstein wasn't great but it's laughable on The Evil Within. If you can't relay technical information to your potential customers in an accurate way or are relaying second or third hand information with out having answers on hand to secondary questions or have a concise explanation for why each recommendation has been stated then you're going to create this mess. I really, really hope Bethesda and their Staff that interact with the community learn for these mistakes going forward.
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Absolutely, but the audience has to assume part of the blame as well. This was the sixth or seventh time, if I remember correctly, that the announcement of frankly absurd or obfuscated system requirements set some people into panic mode, despite the efforts of many people on this forum to calm them down. In every single case so far that panic was ultimately completely unjustified. So while developers do need to learn a lesson about setting reasonable system requirements, the audience needs to learn the lesson to keep calm and not overreact.

The whole phenomenon is even weirder because this time console specs are very similar to PC ones. If you have a PC with a graphics card that is roughly as powerful as the Xbox One, you'll play the game at roughly the same quality or better. If you have a graphics card that's roughly as powerful as the PS4 you'll play the game at more or less the same quality or better. And if you have a better card than both you'll get superior graphics and performance. This has been the case for every current gen game so far.
 
Teknoman said:
I went ahead and got the game anyway but...

At 1080p with:

AMD processor Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2GHz
Radeon 6870,
4GB ram

What do you guys think i'd be looking at performance wise?
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Hmm I guess "meh"

I have a Xeon 1230 v3, GTX 770 and 8GB Ram. Max Settings 1080p = 60fps with drops to 45fps

Maybe 30fps on low? I had the 6870 a year ago and it's really outdated by now^^
 
GhostTrick said:
The problem is that each time there's settings thread, people would just overreact OVER and OVER. Of course people could legitimately being worried, but in the end, the same thing happens over and over: Requirements means nothing.
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They're not over reacting to thin air, they are over reacting to information from the only source that can tell them about the game. Then when questioned instead of reasuring potential customers, Bethesda appear to have made matters worse. Thats on both parties but that doesn't mean it's customers fault when they're are asking questions and they are either ignored or told something a lot higher than it should be. It should serve as a learning experience for all concerned but it's no way just the customers fault and this will continue to happen unless someone says to the publisher to get their facts straight and be honest with the community. Telling people alone to calm down isn't going to stop the spread on inaccurate information happening.
 
i7 2700k
GTX 780
8GB RAM
1440p

Maxed out I get something like 40-50fps average, not really playable at all. Getting rid of SSAO makes a huge difference though, I average 47/48 in the starting rainy area inside I get a solid 60fps (so far).

If my wife is interested in watching me play I will just play it on my second bigger monitor at 1080p maxed out and im sure I could get a consistent 60.

When I get back later I will have to have a look at these black bars and see what looks best.
 
So it looks like the R_Swapinterval cmd that is used to change the framerate cap is variable depending on your monitor Hz. That's why at the default I had a cap of 48 while it was 30 for everyone else, because I use a 144hz monitor. At the -1 value (for 60fps) it actually caps at 72.
 
GavinUK86 said:
okay so an i7 2600k, 8gb ram and a gtx660 runs this on max settings at 1080/30 flawlessly. that's good news. if i unlock the frame rate it can jump from 30 to 75. that 4gb recommendation was definitely overkill.

good news for older systems.

removing the black bars is bullshit though. it doesn't remove them just crops the entire image.

anyway, i'm pretty happy considering it feels good at 1080/30 to me. i'm pretty sensitive to frame rates under 60fps but for some reason i don't mind it here. i think my perception, with the black bars hiding a lot of the image, is different. it seems to soften the smoothness of everything to me.

that fov can get a little crazy if you push it. anyone want uber cinematic?
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lmao

You can tell by the great design how much time and effort and care was put into this.
 
Dr Dogg said:
They're not over reacting to thin air, they are over reacting to information from the only source that can tell them about the game. Then when questioned instead of reasuring potential customers, Bethesda appear to have made matters worse. Thats on both parties but that doesn't mean it's customers fault when they're are asking questions and they are either ignored or told something a lot higher than it should be. It should serve as a learning experience for all conserned but it's no way just the customers fault and this will continue to happen unless someone says to the publisher to get their facts straight and be honest with the community. Telling people alone to calm down isn't going to stop the spread on inaccurate information happening.
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Again, true. But how many times do they have to cry wolf before we realise that there is no wolf?
 
do you have to set the FPS to 60 everytime you boot the game?

and how do you know if it worked (besides obviously looking at the game), I did it in the main menu and there was no indication that anything happened, I wont play it until later but was curious
 
Pretty disappointed with the performance at 1440p with 2 780 TIs (I realize that the second card is absolutely useless)

With that being said, when I get my Gsync monitor later this week, a lot of the problems should be gone :D
 
i72600K @4.5Ghz
MSI 970 GTX 4GB
1080P

at 60 fps unlock setting I see what seem like micro hitches when fast panning the camera and running around. I guess this is the quirks they mentioned on unlocking the fps at -2. at default 30fps its smooth.

also at the start when it raining i get 45-60fps. inside the hospital 60fps solid
 
What is the zoom issue people are talking about? I'm downsampling from 3200x1800 and there are no issues and the IQ is much better if still not perfect. 3600 and above is weird though, looks like a sharpening filter is being applied and there's lots of flickering. Might be my 780Ti's 3GBs running into trouble, I don't know. 60 FPS stutters like crazy though even at 1080P, anywhere from 40-60 but generally stays in the 50s. Wish the RoG Swift would come in so I could use gsync!

Black bars don't bother me, it's just not something I notice while playing. If anything it shows how much attention they put into presenting the environments. Really surprised by how good the game looks, haven't seen too many particularly awful textures either.

I just don't understand why Beth said you needed four gbs of video memory and created such a massive panic. It's just not close to true, so weird!
 
alexandros said:
Again, true. But how many times do they have to cry wolf before we realise that there is no wolf?
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alexandros said:
Absolutely, but the audience has to assume part of the blame as well. This was the sixth or seventh time, if I remember correctly, that the announcement of frankly absurd or obfuscated system requirements set some people into panic mode, despite the efforts of many people on this forum to calm them down. In every single case so far that panic was ultimately completely unjustified. So while developers do need to learn a lesson about setting reasonable system requirements, the audience needs to learn the lesson to keep calm and not overreact.

The whole phenomenon is even weirder because this time console specs are very similar to PC ones. If you have a PC with a graphics card that is roughly as powerful as the Xbox One, you'll play the game at roughly the same quality or better. If you have a graphics card that's roughly as powerful as the PS4 you'll play the game at more or less the same quality or better. And if you have a better card than both you'll get superior graphics and performance. This has been the case for every current gen game so far.
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Oh definitely but while PC gaming is having an influx of people dipping their toes in the water no one can expect them to get a handle if their system will run a certain game without prior knowledge. That's something you can learn from experience or listening to the right people. Though as with all things in life aptitude isn't a given in every subject or hobby so it might take longer for some than it does others but we should still respect that and help them learn at a pace they feel comfortable. Sadly it seems that this confusion is caused by conflicting messages from those who produce the game and those with experience of PC gaming over many years. I don't know if it's because publishers are seen as the authority figure, they are really the only ones with access to the information after all, but the common sense from previous experience of others sometimes falls on deaf ears. Does The Evil Within really need an i7? Well unless it uses Hyperthreading probably not but the fact no model of CPU or clock speed is stated already should be something people should be questioning. And many more like this but it all has to start somewhere and invariably it's from the recommended specs publishers release. Fingers crossed everyone can learn from yet another episode of pandemonium but let's see what happens when Assassin's Creed Unity, Far Cry 4 or Call of Duty Advanced Warfare come out. To be fair Dragon Age: Inquisition was balanced and fair in specs and response but that's built upon Frostbite with a cracking PC engineering team behind it.
 
I don't have the game yet.

People with stuttering, has the game available commands like com_precisetic, com_fixedtic or com_synctotime?
 
VRAM usage (by Afterburner)

1920x1080 : ~1.7GB
2880x1620 : ~2.1GB
3840x2160 : ~2.6GB


Performance

2500K @ 5Ghz + GTX 970 @ 1500/7600

Maxed out + SMAA

*First playable area (check the screenshot below) :

1920x1080 - 50fps
2880x1620 - 45fps
3840x2160 - 30fps

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*Inside the building :


1920x1080 - 94fps
2880x1620 - 55fps
3840x2160 - 35fps
 
So is there no way to change FoV? I don't mean aspect ratio. Can't you zoom out from the character but keep the 16:9 ratio, drawing the rest of the character's body and above his head?
 
Unlocking the framerate to 60 for some reason just fluctuates like crazy. Think I'm sticking with 30 for now. Only played a little bit, but it should remain pretty solid at 1440p.
 
UnrealEck said:
So is there no way to change FoV? I don't mean aspect ratio. Can't you zoom out from the character but keep the 16:9 ratio, drawing the rest of the character's body and above his head?
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That is the million dollar question right now. I'm sure there are users working on it, but there is no way to do it at the moment, no.
 
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