TheTylerRob
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This show looks like some campy syfy channel bullshit. Xmen >>>> whatever these dudes are called
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The Inhumans TCA panel seems to have gone well. Also sad Affleck.
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CydonianKnight
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Real shame. Black Bolt and company deserve better than this project. I remember being excited when their movie was announced at that special panel years ago. And then it kept getting pushed back as new projects got introduced. And now we're here..
JustAnotherMike
Member
Hey, I watch a couple of those campy syfy channel shows. Don't group them together with this. I enjoy watching those shows.
Wag
Member
It will be interesting to see the IMAX numbers for this show. I'm betting <5k total attendance over 2days. Possibly <2k.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Glad that it sounds like a failure.
hodayathink
Member
Perlmutter is literally a toy exec leading a trans-media company.
Why would you want something to be a failure?
But if this show ended up being good, wouldn't Buck deserve some credit for that too?
Like... who actively roots for the failure of something like this?
PHOENIXZERO
Member
So, what does Scott Buck have on Jeph Loeb?
Not that Loeb has been all that great himself and it's been that way since his son passed away. =\
Not that Loeb has been all that great himself and it's been that way since his son passed away. =\
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
For starters, this is Marvel's attempt to have their own version of the X-Men. Second, this seems like a poorly executed plan to push the Inhumans out the doors because Marvebis getting impatient. These reviews do not give me any hope that this is going to be good.
Shitty costumes, lame looking use of powers, and if Iron Fist and Inhumans came out in the early 2000's people might have also looked back and said "I guess it was okay, for the time".
Choppasmith
Member
Yikes, welp, so much for thinking there were positive impressions. Such a shame, Inhumans deserved so much better.
I'm guessing after Feige split Marvel Studios from Perlmutter and dropped Inhumans, Ike then pushed it on Loeb (who probably wasn't crazy about it either) with a crazy budget/deadline. What I really hate is how Marvel threads here are ridiculously quick to jump on this Loeb hate bandwagon..
*Marvel TV does something bad*
"It's Loeb's fault!"
"He's such a hack!"
"LOEB!*shakes fist*"
*Marvel TV does something right (ie most of the Netflix stuff)*
"..."
"He's a broken watch"
"It's just a fluke!"
"It's certainly not Loeb's doing."
Would it kill you guys to give the poor man SOME credit?"
I'm guessing after Feige split Marvel Studios from Perlmutter and dropped Inhumans, Ike then pushed it on Loeb (who probably wasn't crazy about it either) with a crazy budget/deadline. What I really hate is how Marvel threads here are ridiculously quick to jump on this Loeb hate bandwagon..
*Marvel TV does something bad*
"It's Loeb's fault!"
"He's such a hack!"
"LOEB!*shakes fist*"
*Marvel TV does something right (ie most of the Netflix stuff)*
"..."
"He's a broken watch"
"It's just a fluke!"
"It's certainly not Loeb's doing."
Would it kill you guys to give the poor man SOME credit?"
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Loeb has written some of my favourite comics so I can't bring myself to straight up shit on the guy.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
He also wrote Commando.
CaviarMeths
Member
I feel like the actors probably don't deserve this. It should just be Buck, Leob, and Perlmutter sitting on the panel answering questions about why they hate our freedom.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I can't say I'm surprised after the Comic-Con panel. There was an air of defensiveness there, so they were definitely aware of the negative feedback.
I do feel bad for the actors. They probably thought this would lead to bigger things and maybe a spot in the movies.
I do feel bad for the actors. They probably thought this would lead to bigger things and maybe a spot in the movies.
Yea I don't think there's been a single one so far.
I'd feel some type of way if they made it into the movies before the AoS cast did. I know, I know, it's Inhumans as opposed to a group of agents, but yea, I'd aggravate me nonetheless.
hodayathink
Member
Buck has nothing on Loeb. He got both jobs because no one else was willing to do either show (Iron Fist or Inhumans) on the schedule they were asking for (Inhumans has basically had all the work done for it in about 8-9 months, I believe).
Same, The Long Halloween and Dark Victory are classics.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Dang I didn't think about that. It would have been so cool to have Kingpin show up in the next Spider-Man movie.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Genuinely asking, but can you name one of the better SyFy shows that could change someone's opinion who hasn't watched that network in years? Some of the shows look interesting, but the channel has a certain stink to it that hasn't been properly rid.
The Expanse.
Except X2 is still a great movie. And Singer put out the critically acclaimed Days of Future past a couple years ago.
So no, the comparison doesn't make sense.
DoFP was a fluke carried more by the casting of Charles and Erik (and Jackman of course) due to the novelty of the premise and what Vaughn set up with First Class than being anything really exceptional on it's own.
Singer did 2 things that can be commended in (surprise!) the only 2 X movies that anyone priases: a creative scene showcasing Nightcrawler's powers and a scene showcasing Quicksilver's powers. That's his legacy.
Plus you that's like you have to ignore that he made that piece of shit Apocalypse when he's left to his own devices and even had the opportunity to start over with a blank slate (that he created) and still managed to fuck it up.
Listen, if you have issues with them, that's fine. That's your personal opinion.
But it's widely accepted that both of those movies are great. Obviously, not everyone will agree with that. But it's the common belief.
Comparing Singer to Buck is dishonest and based on your personal bias.
Iron Fist was sad because the character is awesome but Inhumans is pretty much par for the course with Marvel trying to push those characters HARD in comics for several years without much results. It all started with Matt Fraction leaving the book that was supposed to start it all, Marvel fucked up something fierce there.
Bar the current Black Bolt book, which is super awesome.
Bar the current Black Bolt book, which is super awesome.
slade
Member
Some women just don't look good in bozo red.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Jeph Loeb has had such a strange career. From Commando to Long Halloween to Ultimatum to this...
Doubt I'll even watch the pilot and I used to fucking love the Inhumans thanks to the MK minis from Jenkins, Jae Lee, Pacheco and Ladronn. Marvel's push has really backfired big time in every medium.
Doubt I'll even watch the pilot and I used to fucking love the Inhumans thanks to the MK minis from Jenkins, Jae Lee, Pacheco and Ladronn. Marvel's push has really backfired big time in every medium.
The problem Marvel has is that people want the X-Men, not X-Men knockoffs. I'm sure the Inhumans fans here would prefer the Inhumans or at the very least Black Bolt and his family to not be X-Men knockoffs when brought to television and film. I think those Inhumans fans would prefer the Inhumans to be the characters they fell in love with.
technopath
Neo Member
How do they expect audiences to be confident in the project when its own creators aren't? A bit tragic. I won't be watching, more so due to the lackluster footage than the terrible buzz and behind-the-scenes mess.
A lot of recent X-Men movie criticism is rooted in revisionist history. 2 out of 3 of Singer's X-movies were critically acclaimed box office hits. That's a fact, not an opinion. The third was still a hit but mediocre in quality. Furthermore, he was heavily involved in First Class. Matthew Vaughn said Singer had to approve a lot of his decisions and was over his shoulder through the process.
A lot of recent X-Men movie criticism is rooted in revisionist history. 2 out of 3 of Singer's X-movies were critically acclaimed box office hits. That's a fact, not an opinion. The third was still a hit but mediocre in quality. Furthermore, he was heavily involved in First Class. Matthew Vaughn said Singer had to approve a lot of his decisions and was over his shoulder through the process.
Why is that a bad thing? X-Men and mutants ain't comin' back, bruh. And even so, they're not something you can naturally integrate this late into the game. They've already invested into the Inhumans concept for like 3+ years at this point. The change is done.
No one can argue that this seems rushed. That still doesn't answer why someone would want it to go badly.
Obviously.
Glass Rebel
Member
Marvel TV has been coasting for a while (aside from AoS). Iron Fist was garbo, this looks like it's even worse and reeks of Perlmutter mandated shit.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Thing is inhumans could be its own, distinct thing. It doesn't have or need to be an XMen knock off. Initially, I actually thought Marvel had created inhumans 3 years ago because they couldn't use XMen, but inhumans have been around for a long time. The IP is distinct, interesting, and has its own history. It has potential, either as a movie trilogy within the MCU or a GoT series. They tried the latter and failed miserably, but I believe they failed because of it was so rushed. Plus the showrunner, etc didn't help matters.
I am gonna look on the bright side though. I was really looking forward to watching this, like I said, I think the IP is interesting and has major potential. I am also getting burned out by every thing else being a super hero property. I will skip on this for the time being and watch some other non super hero show/movie instead.
JustAnotherMike
Member
I watch Killjoys and Dark Matter. They mix in enough drama and fun to keep things enjoyable.
Heard good things about this show, but haven't pulled the trigger on starting it. I think it's more drama heavy compared the two I mentioned.
lol inhumans wishes it had anything close to good syfy quality stuff.
Inhumans is probably worse than anything syfy ever put out. Iron Fist tier.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Inhumans can be successful if it was allowed to stand on its own merits rather than trying to make it an X-Men knockoff. I understand Marvel's need to make new Inhumans rather than new Mutants and a number of those Inhumans have been great characters in their own right, but Marvel Studios has the popularity to make the Inhumans work on its own merits so long as there is love and care put into it.
Iwan Rheon deserves better.
The dog too.
I really like 12 Monkeys and The Expanse gets high praise.
The channel currently excels at pulling off great genre stuff with a limited budget.
The dog too.
I really like 12 Monkeys and The Expanse gets high praise.
The channel currently excels at pulling off great genre stuff with a limited budget.
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