hard to say, iPhone preorders are usually at 12AM PST but iPad's don't normally draw as huge of a demand
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The March 21st Apple Event Thread: Looping In With OS Updates, A New 4-Incher, & More
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hard to say, iPhone preorders are usually at 12AM PST but iPad's don't normally draw as huge of a demand
infiniteloop
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iTunes 12.3.3 is out.
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Lazy vs Crazy
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Do we know yet how much RAM the new Pro has?
XGRaViSmOrSX
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Masterful job by apple in getting rid of all those unused 5S housings. I can't believe people still buy this shit. Then again, thanks to their OS upgrade system you almost certain are forced to after 2 updates. So I can't really blame the end user but then again they continue to buy into this garbage.
fukkn sheep amirite
ClayKavalier
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Probably assume people will put it in a case.
I have no problem with the protruding camera on my iPhone, it's my daily camera - my DSLR gets barely any use due to size and weight these days - but who uses their iPad as their camera? Was it that in demand from the bigger Pro to the 9.7"? Flat is where it's at on iPad. At least the new Silicone case accounts for the camera. Although it seems now you need to buy a Silicone and a Smart Cover for protection on both sides. No more Smart Case.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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nope, just hilarious that they went back to a smaller device that literally is a 5S housing with a new "se" etched on the back. Then they have to balls to charge you $400 for a 16GB model. I just don't see how anyone can say "sweet" when all their doing is buying an iphone 5S that doesn't run like shit due to the OS actually being designed for that chipset and not forcefully slowing it down.
the specs on it are completely different from the 5S
XGRaViSmOrSX
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but i wonder what the original 5s would run like if it wasn't bogged down due to the OS bloat that occurs. I've had a few older ones with previous OS's on them before at my shop for repair and they usually run a bit better and def stay a lot cooler.
LordOfChaos
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Why? The 5/5S were already 1136 x 640.
Nah, that's still the 4/4S.
Need the return of the glass back, clumsy people be damned.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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4/4s was a good looking phone but repairs on that thing were a god damned nightmare. Having to remove everything from the rear just to put on a screen assembly on the front was the worst. doing screen swaps from the 5 onward have gotten easier and easier.
Crazymoogle
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No idea yet. My guess is that if it has the same spec as the 12" pro, it may be at a lower clockspeed or throttled more. It's running at the lower resolution of the iPad 3 / Air lineup (2048x1536) so perf could actually be on par or higher depending on how they clock it. (Also kinda depending on how much better the 12" is at heat dissipation, I suppose)
EDIT: Definitely either downclocked or lower spec, the official website lists lower performance gains compared to the iPad Pro 12". (2.4x CPU versus 2.5x CPU, 4.3x GFX vs. 5.0 GFX)
Because some people don't want the big phones. My fiance for example can't understand how I deal with the 6, he hates it and thinks it's way too big. He's been using his 4 for months now (cause his 5s is broken) because he heard rumors of the new phone and doesn't want to buy a 6. He hates the 4 and can't wait to change but not enough to get a 6 or 6s and deal with the bigger size. He hates the 4 not cause of size but just cause it's so old it's slow and can barely run the OS it has on it (not even the newest one), the OS doesn't have teh features he liked in the one on his 5s, it has battery issues, the home phone button doesn't work,and it's slow as dirt now. Not once have I heard him complain the screen is too small (and the 4 is even smaller than the 5). If there were no rumors he would have just bought a 5s but he figures he might as well get one with updated internals as well as the size he wants since he has to buy a new one anyways.
Just cause you want a bigger phone doesn't mean there aren't people who don't want smaller phones. And maybe those people don't want to sacrifice good specs just cause they want a smaller phone (just cause they want their phone to be smaller doesn't mean they don't want it to be able to do just as much save having a larger screen). And maybe, just maybe, some people liked the old design. I certainly like the looks and feel of the 5 and 5s over my 6 (I hate the curved edges and I think my 6 looks stupid honestly. The 5/5s I think had the best design aesthetically and also practically as it didn't slip out of your hand). I mean I got the 6 cause I wanted the faster processor and NFC mostly. The bigger size just wasn't a deal killer (it most certainly isn't why I bought the phone, I kinda preferred the smaller size myself. Now that I have it I can see the benefit of the bigger screen, but I still could see the benefit of a smaller screen. Now that I have an ipad mini I kinda wish it was smaller as I only use it when I'm on the go - my mini is great for reading in front of the tv or when playing games and looking stuff up <- the only reason the bigger screen was nicer. I'm going to be jealous of my fiance's 5se cause it will have everything I like about my 6 and everything I liked about my 5 which was probably one of my favorite iphones).
ClayKavalier
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Not sure, probably a MacBook.
I hate using the Surface as a tablet, especially for the stuff I do with my iPad, which is 90% reading. Most newspapers and magazines don't even have apps for the Surface. Yeah, you can use their websites and that works decently, but it's also really big and heavy for a tablet.
The size draws a lot of attention to it too. I loved it when I was in school and I would regularly swap back and forth between taking notes and using various programs. Now that I've started working I'd feel ridiculous pulling out a laptop to take a few notes during a meeting. iPad Pro would be a lot better for that.
I also don't like the Surface's note software. There's two versions of OneNote and I was never sure why, and whether notes and folders synced between the two was always hit and miss.
I've reverted back to a legal pad as of now, it'd be nice to have everything digitally, synced to my phone, etc.
I'm gonna guess downclock, the 12" iPad Pro clock speed is pretty aggressive (2.26GHz). Would imagine it's the same chip otherwise, though, including 4GB RAM.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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No one said anyhting about telling people who want smaller phones to "fuck off" so to speak. I was stating that apple bailed on the small phone a few years ago and claimed there was no need for that noise anymore. But in true apple speak fashion they obviously fucked up but don;t want you the consumer to know that so here is this dope ass "new" iphone SE.
My point is that had apple not basically forced obsolescence into the devices by upgrades that just make the older phones run slower for the sake of saying "we have 90% of our devices on iOS 9" in a press release you would still be able to use those older devices on legacy OS's and they won't be decrepit and slow.
Now they are basically selling you another 5S for $400 bucks that in all honestly is a marginal upgrade and really didn't need to exist if apple wasn't worried about forced iOS upgrades.
edit: and personally as a repair tech this is a homerun for us. likely still using the same components inside and possibly even the same LCD assemblies. So I don;t have to learn a new device and that's always a plus.
The benchmarks the 5S was faster than the 6+ in were primarily games (or 3D apps) running at the native screen resolution - there's definitely a possibility that's the case here, since games would be pushing a smaller resolution with the same GPU power.
it's a hardware thing, it's only on the 9.7 inch iPad Pro
NOLA_Gaffer
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Many thanks to Apple for reviving the 4" iPhone.
I don't intend on replacing my 5c until it straight-up dies but now I have peace of mind knowing I won't be forced into something ridiculously big.
I don't intend on replacing my 5c until it straight-up dies but now I have peace of mind knowing I won't be forced into something ridiculously big.
If you mean Night Shift, it is.
If you mean the screen adjusting to light temperature of the room, that requires new ambient light sensors only available on the new 9.7" Pro.
That, combined with the clearanced out designed for iPhone 5 MFi extendable controllers is really making the SE tempting. I really don't care for screen size. But the Touch ID is worrying me.
How is it a marginal upgrade? It's as big an upgrade as the 6s as it pretty much has the same stuff from what I understand (save the touch feedback crap which I still don't see the point). You complained they went back to the 5 design as if that was a step backwards. Well, it's not when you wanted a smaller phone. It is offering another option for those that didn't like having to go to a bigger phone but wanted to be able to get a faster phone (it also means that they'll probably have the option to get a smaller phone in the future when theirs dies or theirs does get obsolete rather than being forced to a bigger phone. If this line succeeds apple will continue offering a smaller version). Why do they need to keep it big or change the design drastically just to consider it a big upgrade? I don't understand this attitude that the look has to change for it to be considered a decent upgrade? I buy a new phone for it to be faster and more capable. Not cause they changed the looks. Honestly sometimes I wish they wouldn't change the looks just to change the looks (once again, I dislike the looks of the 6/6s and I loved the 5).
A faster processor (and maybe more RAM) is nothing to sneeze at. And yes, it does need to exist for those who want a smaller phone but don't want to sacrifice specs and capability just to have it!!! That's my point back to you... for some people the 6 was too big and a deal killer. Hell, if I weren't on a tight budget I'd be tempted to trade in my 6. But my 6 is good enough so I'll stay with it (and I've gotten over the size though it would be nice if it was smaller).
Solideliquid
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One comes in rose gold and the other does not.
also pencil support, 4 speakers, better specs
XGRaViSmOrSX
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I see you missed the part in the post where I said that you would still be able to use your 5S if it wasn't figuratively bricked by the force iOS upgrades. Even the original benchmark tests for the 5S put it close in spec range to the 6. so the biggest issue most had was it "slowing down" or the battery crapping out. Without the forced upgrades to an OS that the phones chipset was never designed to handle the phone would still be usable which is why in my mind the SE doesn't need to exist but does because of the OS upgrade practice that apple employs.
Assuming they are basing the multipliers on iPad Air 2(?) then potentially the pro 9.7 could be faster due to less pixels to push. CPU seems close enough anyway.
iPad Pro 12.9 has 77% more pixels, and only 16% more GPU
The multipliers are listed as "compared to the A7".
Thanks.
I'm confused to....I mean....the pro will just eventually replace the ipad air right? It seems that it's better in every way. Their messaging seems to be if you need a pc replacement, go for the pro.
Crazymoogle
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That's what I thought too, but since Apple is listing lower numbers on their "overall graphics speed comparison" then it would suggest that they either downclocked the graphics cores or reduced the number to compensate for a smaller resolution.
iOS 9 was designed with focus on the A5.
EmilioLargo
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Yeah, they even share the same dimensions and weight.
Only feature that really excites me is the true tone display.
Considering the high entry price and the protruding camera (I never use my iPad's camera) I don't see any appeal in upgrading from my iPad Air2. Solid device.
XGRaViSmOrSX
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then i'm wondering why subsequent upgrades to the OS made the phone run like absolute shit? There had to be some bloat or overclocking done somewhere along the line, no? Aside from the battery issues the only other thing i've noticed with reasons for people getting rid of them in my shop is they run slow. :shrug:
gamerMan
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While the hardware updates are great, there used to be a time when Apple used to surprise me. I miss that Apple. Apple hasn't created an original product in ages. Everything shown here we already knew about.
I was hoping that the new iPad Pro would run a version of Mac OSX along with iOS for the tablet stuff. It looks like Apple is prioritizing business over what would be useful for consumers.
he Surface Pro is great but until it gets the equivalent of iOS it will be a mediocre tablet. The same thing is true for the iPad Pro. For me, it is a mediocre laptop until I can run full fledged software on it. I would love for a company to not only create the hardware for a hybrid device but the software as well.
I was hoping that the new iPad Pro would run a version of Mac OSX along with iOS for the tablet stuff. It looks like Apple is prioritizing business over what would be useful for consumers.
he Surface Pro is great but until it gets the equivalent of iOS it will be a mediocre tablet. The same thing is true for the iPad Pro. For me, it is a mediocre laptop until I can run full fledged software on it. I would love for a company to not only create the hardware for a hybrid device but the software as well.
blu
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Check out Ubuntu Tablet. /offtopic
Solid event all around. Sane-sized iPad Pro is welcome.
The biggest problem with Apple right now for me is they have to many products.
The Macbook line is a mess.
The iPad is the same with the Air and the Pro fighting for space. The Pro takes some space from the Macbook too.
The Iphone line makes sense, there's nothing wrong there.
They should streamline their products a little bit more. Is like they are trying to cover every corner of the market but it just makes it all a bit confusing.
The Macbook line is a mess.
The iPad is the same with the Air and the Pro fighting for space. The Pro takes some space from the Macbook too.
The Iphone line makes sense, there's nothing wrong there.
They should streamline their products a little bit more. Is like they are trying to cover every corner of the market but it just makes it all a bit confusing.
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What's the purpose of that Macbook? Who does it serve?
It's expensive and underpowered. Sure, it's thinner than the Air but the air is so thin as it is that I don't see how that makes up for the first two points.
EmilioLargo
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This. I don't see a need for offering a 12" Macbook, a 13" MB Air and a 13" MBP.
Concentrate on two lines. One that is highly mobile and focuses on energy efficiency while sacrificing power and another focusing on power while lowering its sights in terms of battery life.
Afro Samurai
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The cons of iPhone 6E are the
The Pros are
- 1st Gen Touch ID sensor
- 1.2 MP FaceTime Camera
- Less durable casing than 6S models.
The Pros are
- $399 for 16GB
- Weighs 113 grams, nearly half vs 192 grams 6S Plus
The Air's continued existence is just a stop-gap measure until the MacBook is cheap enough to replace it, just as the MacBook was until the Air replaced it before.
What's the difference compared to the new TouchID sensor?
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