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[Village]

If we're talking about the manga, then the real problem with the ending was how it completely reset Tsuna to how he was at the beginning of the series, how no one shows him any respect, and actually he's even worse than before because now he can't decide between his two love interests.

This shit really seemed like either the author left for other things or it was put on a hold, and maybe the author planned to go back, but never went back. So nothing happened. Which sucks because I really like hitman reborn it just " its done'

 

[BoogieWoogie]

As someone who stopped watching Bleach when he beat Aizen (the first time?), how much dumber does it get? How many more powerups could he possibly get?

 

[LotusHD]

People also forget the Bleach ending ruins a major aspect of one of the "main" characters.

Who

Look we can talk about bad endings all we want, but the original Berserk anime has the worst handled ending.

Still iconic.

Fairy Tail did have a whelp nothing changed and were no consequences for any of the heroes or meaningful change

Someone might have gotten pregnant, and someone got put into a wheelchair. Progress.

As someone who stopped watching Bleach when he beat Aizen (the first time?), how much dumber does it get? How many more powerups could he possibly get?

Ichigo managed to be tied to every notable power/race: Soul Reaper, Quincy, Hollow, Fullbring

 

[squallheart]

Yeah don't get me started on Naruto what a disappointment. During the pain arc I remember I asked my brother since he was reading the manga let me guess the final battle you're going to have everyone gang up on mandara and the power of friendship is going to unite Sasuke and Naruto etc etc, then they are gonna fight each other the end....... Didn't even bother watching the last arc.

 

[Dark Ninja]

The Naruto ending was disappointing. The Bleach ending was infuriating and retroactively ruined the entire thing.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

How about the anime ending for Kare Kano (His & Her Circumstances)? They didn't actually end anything, they just simply stopped animating new episodes half way through a story arc.

This is still by far my vote for worst handled anime series ending.

 

[Ray Down]

As someone who stopped watching Bleach when he beat Aizen (the first time?), how much dumber does it get? How many more powerups could he possibly get?

Fullbringer, Quicy powers like Blue vein, New dual swords, perfect form/combination of Shimigami Hollow and some Quincy.

Then he loses all that gets his hollow powers absorbed and defeats the big baddy with his normal unreleased blade he got with the Urahara training even though his sword supposed to be different now.

 

[LotusHD]

The Naruto ending was disappointing. The Bleach ending was infuriating and retroactively ruined the entire thing.

You talking about anime Bleach? How'd that go again

 

[Setsuna]

People keep mentioning Bleach but the books show that the author had a pretty good plan for the series and painted the SS in a very dark light which would have made it interesting (for me) but he was forced out of town and we got what we got. (Speaking of the manga)

For the anime, it ended on a pretty cool fight and Bleach was always a great anime but a terrible manga. Naruto ended like... like they knew they wanted more money lol.

He wasn't forced anywhere. He was sick for the past few years, and decided to end

 

[Big One]

One Piece has been dragging as well. There is tons of stalling in One Piece and in episode fillers. 1 chapter should not equal 1 episode ever. It creates a terrible viewing and rewatching experience.

To be honest I'm not too worried about One Piece in the long run. If anything out of the big three that's gonna get an outright remake and/or recut ala Dragon Ball Kai, it's going to be One Piece (since TOEI so far are the only ones to have done a "Kai" type series in the first place, lol). So in the end, One Piece's anime will eventually be pretty solid, even if it's required to watch it in a different form to get the best of it.

 

[Ray Down]

Who

Chad, his entire character was about being kindest and only using his fists to protect people and this was brought up with the stuff with his Grandpa and how he and ichigo became friends.

Job in the future, beat the shit out of people for money.

 

[caliph95]

Can I say I don't like how the Quincy were handled at least in terms of abilities , they went from being somewhat of a foil with arrows instead of swords and manipulating and absorbing outer reishi instead of having their own as well as counterparts ability l.

Then now they are a bunch of weirdos with broken powers that required 100 chapters to beat

 

[Setsuna]

Can I say I don't like how the Quincy were handled at least in terms of abilities , they went from being somewhat of a foil with arrows instead of swords and manipulating and absorbing outer reishi instead of having their own as well as counterparts ability l.

Then now they are a bunch of weirdos with broken powers that required 100 chapters to beat

And the Shinigami used to not have Zanpakutou or Kido. Things tend to change over time

 

[LotusHD]

Chad, his entire character was about being kindest and only using his fists to protect people and this was brought up with the stuff with his Grandpa and how he and ichigo became friends.

Job in the future, beat the shit out of people for money.

Ah...

Sorry I didn't remember, because Ichigo's friends barely matter lol

Can I say I don't like how the Quincy were handled at least in terms of abilities , they went from being somewhat of a foil with arrows instead of swords and manipulating and absorbing outer reishi instead of having their own as well as counterparts ability l.

Then now they are a bunch of weirdos with broken powers that required 100 chapters to beat

Them and the Vizored were handled terribly.

 

[caliph95]

And the Shinigami used to not have Zanpakutou or Kido. Things tend to change over time

So I'm not saying it doesn't make sense just disappointing

 

[caliph95]

Ah...

Sorry I didn't remember, because Ichigo's friends barely matter lol



Them and the Vizored were handled terribly.

Instead finding more about the war let's focus this character having a longass boring and repitive fights

 

[Kain-Nosgoth]

didn't followed bleach after the arrankar, anyone has a summary i could read on how they fucked it up?

thanks

 

[Ten_Fold]

Only hope for Bleach imo is for them to bring the anime back an fix all the loose shit, as for naruto it wasn't the worst ending it was just ok

 

[LotusHD]

Only hope for Bleach imo is for them to bring the anime back an fix all the loose shit, as for naruto it wasn't the worst ending it was just ok

Fix it with what, the even worse manga arc/ending?

 

[ZoddGutts]

Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail all became trash, not surprising the anime versions were also trash.

 

[The Technomancer]

Possibly a controversial opinion but honestly, Hunter X Hunter could have ended right where the more recent anime stops (Chapters 338-339 in the manga) and it would still be an ending head and shoulders above its peers in the same genre.

Nah not controversial, that stopping point is excellent and I basically consider it to be the end of the series. The newer material is like...other stories in the same universe, but the story of HxH wrapped there

 

[Dark Ninja]

You talking about anime Bleach? How'd that go again

Sorry I was talking about the manga fuck that ending and end fight. The anime was fine.

 

[brawly]

The anime in general is handled disgracefully. Probably more filler episodes than canon.

 

[LordOfLore]

For the people who wondered how much filler Naruto(the whole series)had: 720 episodes of which 312 going by various guides were filler. Add on 18 episodes that were pretty much 100% filler post-final battle and you get 330. That's like 47% filler.

 

[cordy]

As someone who stopped watching Bleach when he beat Aizen (the first time?), how much dumber does it get? How many more powerups could he possibly get?

If that's where it ended for you then be glad because that's a great way to go out.

 

[HypnoDarkrai]

Fullbringer, Quicy powers like Blue vein, New dual swords, perfect form/combination of Shimigami Hollow and some Quincy.

Then he loses all that gets his hollow powers absorbed and defeats the big baddy with his normal unreleased blade he got with the Urahara training even though his sword supposed to be different now.

Ichigo didn't lose his powers, it was temporary. How is it dumb that Ichigo is a quincy? It explains how he was able to survive all those fights in Soul Society, Old Man Zangetsu activating blut vene for him.

It also makes sense that he could use Fullbringer since his dad is a shinigami and would have had to survive fights against hollows. His mom was also bitten by a hollow.

Jugram saw Ichigo beating Yhwach with his regular sword in a vision.

Chad, his entire character was about being kindest and only using his fists to protect people and this was brought up with the stuff with his Grandpa and how he and ichigo became friends.

Job in the future, beat the shit out of people for money.

He joined a boxing gym during the first timeskip, it's not unprecedented. That was a mistranslation that people hung onto.

http://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/post/151297165117/im-re-reading-the-bleach-digital-official-colour

The Japanese text explicitly states ‘not in a bad way' (振るわな&#12356 and ‘for my own sake/myself' (自分のため&#12395 NOT anything about ‘personal gain' which is different.

Can I say I don't like how the Quincy were handled at least in terms of abilities , they went from being somewhat of a foil with arrows instead of swords and manipulating and absorbing outer reishi instead of having their own as well as counterparts ability l.

Then now they are a bunch of weirdos with broken powers that required 100 chapters to beat

Quilge literally says that Uryu's version of the volstanding was an old relic, it makes sense that they would use other forms of fighting since the Ishida family distanced themselves from the Wandenreich.

 

[LotusHD]

His dad being a Soul Reaper is whatever, but his mom also happening to be a Quincy as well is just stupid lol

 

[ZedLeppelin006]

Speaking of long shonen's, without spoiling anything, does Fist of the north star have a good ending?

I just finished the 75th ep of the first series this morning and have been really digging this show and can see why it's so influential for the genre as a whole.

 

[Nocturnowl]

The naruto anime endgame is such a clear desperate attempt to milk as many episodes they can before the well runs dry.
Oh we joked how the infinite tsukyomi would be anime filler hell when the manga chapter came out, except we were all correct...actually that's not a surprise at all.

What really sucks is that the anime actually nailed the final throwdown between Naruto and the Sauce, but it's dragged down by being surrounded by dribble on both sides.

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I wish Bleach's final arc got animated, it was such a mess that I'd love to hatewatch.

 

[Compbros]

Well... One piece has been much worse since the time Skip, so i wouldn't hold on to that.

And Charlotte was pretty bad, yeah. A shame cause i liked the idea and the first episodes.

Ehhhhhh, I wouldn't say all that. Fishman Island is a bottom 3 arc but then Skypiea is said to be that as well.

Spoiler

Punk Hazard

was what it was, enjoyable enough but I don't have a desire to read the whole thing, just select parts.

Spoiler

Dressrosa

simply went on too long and had fat that could've been trimmed.

Spoiler

Zou

is a much more enjoyable information arc than Loguetown and

Spoiler

Whole Cake

is one of my favorite arcs in the entire series.



Edit:

The Doflamingo arc wasn't good? I've just started that (getting into the Colosseum stuff).

Many count it among their favorite/best One Piece arcs. It's just loooooonnnnnngggg. Longest arc in all of One Piece spanning 101 manga chapters and 116 anime episodes.

 

[Space Runaway]

Speaking of long shonen's, without spoiling anything, does Fist of the north star have a good ending?

I just finished the 75th ep of the first series this morning and have been really digging this show and can see why it's so influential for the genre as a whole.

The tv series ends well enough though bit redundant. Unless you're referring to the portion before HnK2, in which case it has a great ending.

The comic goes a bit past the tv series with a few volumes that reek of filler, sans the final volume. Not a terrible finale or anything but the ending feels long overdue by that point.

Both have a different but weak wrap-up to Lynn's(Rin?) series long pining over Ken, though maybe for the better. =P

 

[Angry Grimace]

Bleach says hi.

The anime ending to Bleach literally doesn't exist because nobody gave enough of a fuck for them to actually animate the last arc (which was a bunch of hyper ridiculous nonsense). This is only about the anime. Naruto's manga did all of this without a bunch of weird filler to begin with.

 

[VariantX]

The naruto anime endgame is such a clear desperate attempt to milk as many episodes they can before the well runs dry.
Oh we joked how the infinite tsukyomi would be anime filler hell when the manga chapter came out, except we were all correct...actually that's not a surprise at all.

What really sucks is that the anime actually nailed the final throwdown between Naruto and the Sauce, but it's dragged down by being surrounded by dribble on both sides.

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I wish Bleach's final arc got animated, it was such a mess that I'd love to hatewatch.

I dunno. Honestly, had it ended right after Aizen, it wouldn't have been perfect but it would have cleaned things up nicely. No, not nicely, I'm being too kind. More like it can finally stop shitting its pants in perpituity. The damn Fullbringer and Quincy shit literally came out of fucking nowhere with zero build up to it. Then you give the endboss god vision and somehow we're supposed to accept that he lost to the good guys when you give him a power with no perceptible weakness whatsoever.

 

[RAWi]

Ehhh.. it's literally called Negima 2. UQ Holder itself is dead. I think he will just merge it now and just act like that never happened at all and it was planned all along (and not rushed because of things outside of the manga)

Haha, and I am totally fine with it being called Negima 2, love the Negima series. And would love to see Nagi, Negi, Touta and their "harems" fighting side by side at some point. Really hope they do justice to UQ Holder manga with the anime, as they should have with Negima.

 

[Daingurse]

The anime ending for Toriko is pure trash. The ending in the manga isn't great either, sure, I was extremely dissapointed by it. But the anime ending for Toriko cemented it's place as the worst shonen adaptation I've ever seen. I really want to see this series done justice, because Toriko is one of my favorite battle manga series, ever. The original Toriko OVA was great too . . . .

 

[ZedLeppelin006]

The tv series ends well enough though bit redundant. Unless you're referring to the portion before HnK2, in which case it has a great ending.

The comic goes a bit past the tv series with a few volumes that reek of filler, sans the final volume. Not a terrible finale or anything but the ending feels long overdue by that point.

Both have a different but weak wrap-up to Lynn's(Rin?) series long pining over Ken, though maybe for the better. =P

Yeah I was more wondering about the end of the first series so I'm glad it sounds like it ends well though I'm sure I'll check out the sequel series regardless.

I got spoiled about

Spoiler

Toki's eventual death

in that shocking character deaths thread from awhile back and I keep waiting for it to happen yet he keeps on going for now against all odds lol.

As for Rin's resolution, I hope to fuck it doesn't end with her growing up to get with Ken as that would be weird and out of character for Ken.

 

[Kuroi Gogeta]

I'm glad I stopped reading after

Spoiler

Aizen was defeated.

This is the true ending of the series. Anything after that was essentially just a completely different story wearing the skin of familiar characters. As far as I'm concerned, he was low-key pitching a spin off manga. The way the Hueco Mundo arc ended wrapped the series up perfectly.

 

[Setsuna]

This is the true ending of the series. Anything after that was essentially just a completely different story wearing the skin of familiar characters. As far as I'm concerned, he was low-key pitching a spin off manga. The way the Hueco Mundo arc ended wrapped the series up perfectly.

Except that whole 'What is the Soul King?' thing

 

[caliph95]

Ichigo didn't lose his powers, it was temporary. How is it dumb that Ichigo is a quincy? It explains how he was able to survive all those fights in Soul Society, Old Man Zangetsu activating blut vene for him.

It also makes sense that he could use Fullbringer since his dad is a shinigami and would have had to survive fights against hollows. His mom was also bitten by a hollow.

Jugram saw Ichigo beating Yhwach with his regular sword in a vision.


He joined a boxing gym during the first timeskip, it's not unprecedented. That was a mistranslation that people hung onto.

http://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/post/151297165117/im-re-reading-the-bleach-digital-official-colour





Quilge literally says that Uryu's version of the volstanding was an old relic, it makes sense that they would use other forms of fighting since the Ishida family distanced themselves from the Wandenreich.

And the Shinigami used to not have Zanpakutou or Kido. Things tend to change over time

So
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense just disappointing

.

 

[Kuroi Gogeta]

Except that whole 'What is the Soul King?' thing

And when the soul king IS revealed it is the most underwhelming convoluted and stupid bullshit. I'll say it again. The end of Hueco Mundo is the TRUE ending of bleach. The first Part of the series introduces you to hollows and shinigami. Things get off track when it becomes more focused on shinigami but then the pendulum swings back to hollows who were the enemy to begin with. It was perfect. The soul king is supposed to be some super powerful figure that nobody knows about/has never met. He is essentially GOD. remaining a mystery is just fine, and a good parallel of our own world where for most people-- God is a mystery.

Now if the author did want to further the story, then he could have gone into more detail about Hell and what is like instead of it being relegated to a few filler episodes and a mediocre movie.

 

[Mendrox]

Ya'll talking about bleach

Ya'll forgot the Hitman Reborn ending which was

either

" Welp I don't wanna write this shit anymore" or " this manga is canceled" and they basically ended it in the middle of a battle ark, and the magic man who never actually desplays his real identity which was one of the points of the whole arc, says look towards the future... and then it fucking ends in the middle of a fucking battle arc.

Just in the middle of a fucking thing, no bleach like warnings, just " its done'

The pain returns. Reborn was good, but the ending was shit.

Haha, and I am totally fine with it being called Negima 2, love the Negima series. And would love to see Nagi, Negi, Touta and their "harems" fighting side by side at some point. Really hope they do justice to UQ Holder manga with the anime, as they should have with Negima.

Akamatsu anime is an endless curse. There will never be a good anime adaption of any of his mangas sadly. The original Negima anime was good for the first few episodes and then went into hyperdrive bullshit story mode. And then came the new series with that bullshit designs and artstyle and then the OVAs and call which wouldn't have helped you if you didn't read the manga. I never really read through Negima completely because of all that shit.

 

[Setsuna]

And when the soul king IS revealed it is the most underwhelming convoluted and stupid bullshit. I'll say it again. The end of Hueco Mundo is the TRUE ending of bleach. The first Part of the series introduces you to hollows and shinigami. Things get off track when it becomes more focused on shinigami but then the pendulum swings back to hollows who were the enemy to begin with. It was perfect. The soul king is supposed to be some super powerful figure that nobody knows about/has never met. He is essentially GOD. remaining a mystery is just fine, and a good parallel of our own world where for most people-- God is a mystery.

Now if the author did want to further the story, then he could have gone into more detail about Hell and what is like instead of it being relegated to a few filler episodes and a mediocre movie.

There isnt a true enemy in Bleach. The thing about Bleach is that all the sides are pretty fucked up at all times.

You say Hell furthers the story, but Hell itself has no bearing on the story.Hell does not influence anything outside of Hell

On the other hand The Royal Realm is where the Soul King resides. The Soul King being an individual that controls the flow of spirits between Material World and Soul Society. And is the place where captains are promoted to.

The only interesting thing about Hell is that its called 'Hell'

 

[BoogieWoogie]

They made Ichigo's Mom a Quincy? Jesus....

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

It's funny, I don't remember if other shonen were doing it at the same time, but both Naruto and Bleach's arcs seemed to be following the same pattern. Like I could read Naruto and know what was going to happen when I picked up Bleach. Defeat powerful enemy, discover new power, fight even more powerful enemy, discover new power. By the end they were both just so OP, I didn't see how they could possibly go any further.

 

[LotusHD]

It's funny, I don't remember if other shonen were doing it at the same time, but both Naruto and Bleach's arcs seemed to be following the same pattern. Like I could read Naruto and know what was going to happen when I picked up Bleach. Defeat powerful enemy, discover new power, fight even more powerful enemy, discover new power. By the end they were both just so OP, I didn't see how they could possibly go any further.

I like OP's approach, they just showcase new techniques that they hadn't shown off before, no tedious training chapters/arcs for one to slog through.

 

[PSlayer]

Wait until the Bleach final arc adaptation

 

[RK9039]

As someone who stopped watching Bleach when he beat Aizen (the first time?), how much dumber does it get? How many more powerups could he possibly get?

Ichigo was Aizen's bankai all along.

Sorry for spoiling it for those who don't know.

 

[caliph95]

It's funny, I don't remember if other shonen were doing it at the same time, but both Naruto and Bleach's arcs seemed to be following the same pattern. Like I could read Naruto and know what was going to happen when I picked up Bleach. Defeat powerful enemy, discover new power, fight even more powerful enemy, discover new power. By the end they were both just so OP, I didn't see how they could possibly go any further.

I like OP's approach, they just showcase new techniques that they hadn't shown off before, no tedious training chapters/arcs for one to slog through.

Even the fights at least in bleach were getting repetitive

 

[n00bsauce87]

Nope, doesn't sound like fairy tale to me

 

[televator]

Madara was robbed by the author. Kages should have stayed dead and way to go introducing the true evil bad lady that no one knows or gives a fuck about at the eleventh hour.