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The Official MADWORLD Thread of No Means Yes and Yes Means A--wesome!
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Just got the game a few hours ago and I'm enjoying it so far but someone at Sega or Platinum Games totally fucked up the PAL conversion.
Now when I play my games at 16:9 there is some small boarders on the top and bottom since this TV is a 16:10 but I don't mind since I want a full picture. When I select the wide option it zooms in slightly and cuts out a little off the sides but fills the whole screen nicely. This is MadWorld running on wide, normally all my widescreen games would fill the whole screen by this point but not MadWorld meaning it's got to be 50Hz with boarders.
I noticed something was strange right away when the black boards looked much bigger than normal, well done Sega or Platinum games, you fucked one of the Wii games I was most looking forward to.
Now when I play my games at 16:9 there is some small boarders on the top and bottom since this TV is a 16:10 but I don't mind since I want a full picture. When I select the wide option it zooms in slightly and cuts out a little off the sides but fills the whole screen nicely. This is MadWorld running on wide, normally all my widescreen games would fill the whole screen by this point but not MadWorld meaning it's got to be 50Hz with boarders.
I noticed something was strange right away when the black boards looked much bigger than normal, well done Sega or Platinum games, you fucked one of the Wii games I was most looking forward to.
abstract alien
Member
This makes me sad, even when the problem doesnt pertain to me.
:^(
:^(
Xav said:
I live in the US, that's how the game runs on my TV, didn't seem to affect anything. I just assume that's how the game is. I have it set to wide, except I don't think it zooms in, I think it just cuts off the sides a little. Maybe its something to do with not fully supporting 480p? I dunno, looks fine either way.
UpperCaseN
Member
ShadiWulf said:
Not me, I'm in the US too. I have a 16:9 TV and I get no black bars at all, the game reaches all corners of the screen. I'm using component cables, 480p mode, and widescreen wii settings.
The black bars wouldn't bother me, but what is this 50hz vs 60hz that everyone mentioned? What differences does that cause visually?
wackojackosnose
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Gryphter said:
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0llsb77Esc
What's the gameplay speed of the PAL Madworld like? Can anyone compare it to the NTSC videos? Is it at all (or even barely) optimised?
KennyLinder said:True, but I *don't think* Wii works like that.
It does, dark10x explained that out a few pages back
480i was most likely choosen to keep the game from having framerate issues though Platinum Games has never confirmed nor denied
And honest to god since its been out there has not been one person who really noticed the difference (the only two who have in this thread were ones who cannot run 480i games because their monitors dont work that way)
That sucks though about the 50hz thing though
SPOILERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72r9BTMsXsI
video of the credits, has the sides cut off a little just like on my TV (looks bigger on youtube because the video isn't completly filling the vertical length)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72r9BTMsXsI
video of the credits, has the sides cut off a little just like on my TV (looks bigger on youtube because the video isn't completly filling the vertical length)
Level 8 Boss
Member
Easy_D said:
I really can't believe it. 50Hz in this day and age. Fucking unacceptable!!!
jts
...hate me...
That thing is fucking me up. First Wii game that I pre-order in ages and it turns out to be fucked up like that? Shit son, is it 1994 again?
I hope it gets in the mail today anyway, still anxious to try it out.
Does anyone know by now what happens to the HB channel after the update?
I hope it gets in the mail today anyway, still anxious to try it out.
Does anyone know by now what happens to the HB channel after the update?
wackojackosnose
Member
HBC is fine even after installing the update (or so I've read).
Combing through various forums, the update on the disk is supposed to patch the Trucha bug on the Wii, which is definitely is used to hack Wii's, so I'm not sure how affects future homebrew. I read that some guy is still on firmware 3.4 though, even after he updated it via Madworld.
Combing through various forums, the update on the disk is supposed to patch the Trucha bug on the Wii, which is definitely is used to hack Wii's, so I'm not sure how affects future homebrew. I read that some guy is still on firmware 3.4 though, even after he updated it via Madworld.
SEGA wasn't just sitting on this project, Nintex. A sideways glance at madworldtv.com, the writers they hired, the voice actors they hired, the announcers they hired, and the marketing push at Gamespot and on TV they gave to this game shows that it wasn't another SEGA Bass Fishing or some other quick and dirty port. It doesn't really cost a lot of money to implement 480p or 60Hz. I mean, some shovelware games even support these things. They've become standards, and I have no idea why PG dropped the ball here, unless they simply ran out of time.[Nintex] said:
KennyLinder
Member
Has anyone played both PAL and US to see if there are speed differences? It shouldn't be a problem for the gameplay at least.
And, the borders. Some people are saying they are present in the US version?
And, the borders. Some people are saying they are present in the US version?
wackojackosnose
Member
[Nintex] said:
That's sad cos it also means I'm not going to preorder anymore games from Sega for the Wii unless I have assurances that it runs in 60hz. I'd have cancelled my order if Amazon didn't already get it out to me (dispatched yesterday and arrived today via free delivery - unbelievable!) How many years have we been getting fully optimised games in PAL land only for them to pull this 50hz bullshit out of the blue?
markatisu said:
Thanks, good to know.
KennyLinder said:
Can you compare what you've played to the videos online? To see if the gameplay and music speeds are the same in both versions? I keep remembering the Sonic PAL vs NTSC test where the music in the PAL version seemed to also run in slow motion.
bcn-ron said:
If that's the case then yeah, that sucks ass.
I know whenever I played xbox games in the pal res, they were noticeably sharper than the ntsc counterparts (on my 50hz compatible JVC crt). Just had to deal with insanely low refresh (headaches).
Figured the Wii worked the same way.
UpperCaseN
Member
Oxx said:
holy shit dude, when do you sleep? :lol you posted a EU pic of the game, right? what the hell time is it over there?
wackojackosnose
Member
I have it but I don't know if I want to open it or get a refund. :/
UpperCaseN
Member
ah, that's not so bad, I got 1:30pm here. For some reason I thought we were on opposite day and night cycles, but now I realize that I am an idiot
soooo, back to the game. I was on a roll last night and didn't die at all (on hard). I made it through all of The Castle and the first part of the area after (keeping it vague for spoilers sake). Tonight I'll be playing the elevator and the final boss, wish me luck!
P.S. I'll report on if I unlock anything extra.
I realize there's 2 situations. Beating it on Hard using a new file, and beating it on hard using a file that you've beaten the game with already. You don't get the unlockable weapons when you use a new file, so I don't know if that'll affect what/if I get anything this time around. Depending on how brutal the final boss is on hard, I'll try to beat it using both files to see if there's any difference.
soooo, back to the game. I was on a roll last night and didn't die at all (on hard). I made it through all of The Castle and the first part of the area after (keeping it vague for spoilers sake). Tonight I'll be playing the elevator and the final boss, wish me luck!
P.S. I'll report on if I unlock anything extra.
I realize there's 2 situations. Beating it on Hard using a new file, and beating it on hard using a file that you've beaten the game with already. You don't get the unlockable weapons when you use a new file, so I don't know if that'll affect what/if I get anything this time around. Depending on how brutal the final boss is on hard, I'll try to beat it using both files to see if there's any difference.
You guys can always ask about the display issues on the Platinum Games forum
http://forums.platinumgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3
might get a response
http://forums.platinumgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3
might get a response
I've played this game to death beating it 10 times.
By the way, MadWorld's OST is now available to listen to on Youtube. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlaoa1u3k4&feature=channel
By the way, MadWorld's OST is now available to listen to on Youtube. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlaoa1u3k4&feature=channel
UpperCaseN
Member
on my 2nd playthrough I found some areas I missed the first time. It was nice to play them cuz they were new to me.
wackojackosnose
Member
So I broke down and opened my copy.
Seems fun but I can't see jack shit because about half the screen is missing due to a crappy PAL conversion. I think the game screen to border ration is worse than the old 16 bit Street Fighter 2 PAL shit we used to get. :/
Seems fun but I can't see jack shit because about half the screen is missing due to a crappy PAL conversion. I think the game screen to border ration is worse than the old 16 bit Street Fighter 2 PAL shit we used to get. :/
Hitmeneer said:
MediaMarkt didn't have a copy of MadWorld in yet and all the other stores were closed, so no MadWorld for me today
Sadly MediaMarkt isn't so good with getting games on release day.
Sometimes they get them, but lots of times they don't. At least over here in Belgium.
For some reason BlahDVD shipped the game a couple of days early and 2 of the 3 copies I ordered popped up today.
50Hz does suck though, but once you're playing the game it doesn't really matter that much to me. I'll just pretend it gives the game an even more cinematic feel. ;P
Incredible game btw, played it for 2.5 hours straight before I had to go off to work and nearly got there too late, but it was so worth it.
If I knew it was gonna be this good, I would have taken the day off.