You just defended noobasuar, did you not?
It's more than that and you'd now it if you cared to look at anything presented to you. It's not just OMG I GET TO PRESS TRIANGLE INSTEAD OF SQUARE at times, they are giving you more control than that. The example in the demo we were shown is a bit simple, but it shows a situation where you've restrained an enemy and then you'll have a few moments to look around yourself and see if you can find something in the environment to use against the enemy. In the b roll footage this comes down to either choosing a knife or just punching the enemy in the face. Now, I'm not certain how deep the effects of the different choices can be, but let's hope they have at least some consequences other than "QTE ends now" or "you get another QTE." It'd be cool if it would be like
Some stuff just cannot be replicated with gameplay. They aren't making every combat scene in the game a QTE, they are they just seem to want to add some interactivity to action scenes that are cutscenes in even games like Bayonetta that have huge focus on combat and have those QTEs be a bit different than just the Simon Says stuff.
Again, there's a difference in making everything a QTE and making the kind of scenes that have been cutscenes in the past that would never work in gameplay situations into interactive QTEs. So far, it seems RAD is doing the latter instead of the former.
The one thing I need to know is the release date
noobasaur has outright said he simply doesn't like this kind of game. He's not trying to offer constructive criticism, he's just heckling.
Once we see some extended gameplay sequences demonstrating the weapons properly, I think it'll be fair to start making conclusions about if this is a good TPS and if it sets itself apart mechanically.The Combo Gun
The bread and butter of The Orders arsenal. The combo gun has two different functions. The rifle component of the gun is good for gunning down foes from a distance. The other barrel delivers a concussive blast that knocks foes back like a Force push. Stunned enemies can then be picked off with rifle fire.
The Arc Gun
This high-voltage weapon is where things start to get more experimental. The arc gun has electric wires and components spread along its long metal rods. Electrical current zaps along this contraption as it warms up, creating a Jacobs Ladder. This piece of bleeding edge technology shakes and smokes as it charges up a precise, long-distance bolt of energy. The way it zaps towards far off targets reminds us of Coles eagle-eyed lightning blast from Infamous.
The Thermite Rifle
The thermite rifle is the flashiest and most devastating of the bunch Ready At Dawn has revealed so far. Pellets packed with strips of aluminum iron oxide are blasted into the environment, which then break open into a cloud of glittery metal paper. A high temperature flare is then shot into the cloud, creating a chemical reaction that turns the cloud into a burning mass of melting metal. This devastating weapon is perfect for punishing enemies hiding behind cover.
Fragmentation Grenades
Everybody knows how grenades work pull the pin and throw it before it blows up. The Orders grenades are a little different than average. These thrown explosives resemble the handled potato masher grenades usually used by German troops. It also features a small spike that allows it to be stuck into walls or the floor, creating a nasty proximity mine.
Uh-huh.
Hmmm.
I'm not seeing anything here that disputes the notion that these sequences are extravagant but ultimately scripted trivial set-pieces.
You're right to point out that good action titles like Bayonetta include QTEs as well. I guess the great design underlying the combos and actual gameplay make up for the mundanity of mashing X a bunch of times. The jury's, of course, still out on whether or not the same can be said of The Order(and, certainly, whether its melee segments need to be made up for in terms of fun game mechanics).
And plenty of modern games fall flat on their faces despite not attempting anything new at all.
So you're distancing yourself from noobasuar's comments now?
They eyes really look a bit weird, and his coat also seems to clip a little trough the leg. But that's all stuff that can be fixed until release
On second thoughts, the eyes look absolutely creepy here. Ready at Dawn needs to get some of the TacheFX magic into the eyes.
Atleast explain why you think that way.
The framerate's lower than the E3 trailer at least.
It's a game. Show me the game. The fact they're more keen to show of the visuals instead of the game itself doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. I'm glad we've(almost, looking at you, Ubi) moved on from pre-rendered premier footage for titles is nice, but what RAD's doing isn't much of a step-up. I don't give a shit about their marketing tactics or motivations, I'm going to say what I think based on what they show me, and I haven't been impressed. Taking their marketing into account is pretty apologist. If it's not ready to show, don't show it.
Win what?
I would try to convince them to not make the same game we've seen many times already.
Exactly. I can understand the reasonable posters expressing guarded optimism, even skepticism, after that reveal, because they really didn't show much at all, but all those posters coming in with, "Oh great, another cover shooter!" should be drawn and quartered, because they add absolutely nothing to the discussion. If TPS games aren't your thing, why bother to post in a thread featuring one?
Excellent, you're doubling down. Glad we've got that straight.
I'm guessing the comparison was in terms of gameplay (and using Fuse as the posterchild for a generic third person shooter), and there hasn't been enough shown to know whether its anywhere near a decent comparison or not.
I think the dream is to have the entire game's cinematic moments come about through systemic play. That's my dream anyhow - and I'm not saying that RAD has to follow my dreams, but personally I see QTEs as a hack rather than something to be excited about. But like most things, it depends.
The lovers too. And everybody in between. There's some extensive woodwork here.
It was 30 then, and it's 30 now, at least in any scene that I could find comparable.
You ever watch a QTE and wish you could do that through direct gameplay? Yeah, that's pretty much me most of the time, wondering "why couldn't I have done that?" Which is why it feels like a hack, a small failure where control is wrested from the player, only QTEs provide the most bare-bones of interactivity so that there's some modicum of player involvement.
