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[RoboPlato]

So which kind of AA does infamous SS use?

Modified SMAA T2x

 

[StuBurns]

So which kind of AA does infamous SS use?

SMAA

EDIT: Beaten like a Whitechapel hooker.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Maybe by the fourth chapter you unlock the opium and then Gallahad sings "I am eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus."

"On second thoughts, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place"

 

[Loris146]

So which kind of AA does infamous SS use?

SMAA T2x

 

[derwalde]

*coming back to a the order thread after months*
*still debating about wether its 1080p or not*
*this is neogaf*

 

[Gaffercake]

Modified SMAA T2x

What's the difference between SMAA and the other two on the previous page?

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Would it make sense to display the hud over the black bars instead of over the picture?

No, the microtransaction adverts are going to be going in there.

 

[Canucked]

Does the HUD vanish when you're not shooting/taking hits? Or just during event scenes?

 

[mohsinkhan]

can anyone tell me what the bar under the ammo icons means?

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i also think the ammo number + ammo icons are a bit redundant.[/QUOTE]
Agreed if that's the case. I want little to no information on my screen, this game is too beautiful to be covered up!

 

[t_wilson01]

Would it make sense to display the hud over the black bars instead of over the picture?

Probably not because the black bars would have to be included in screen shots instead of just cropping them out. Could also be for the same reason subtitles in movies are not displayed over the black bars, that cinematic feel.

 

[KKRT00]

Oh. Are there any benchmarks of MSAA in Forward engines?

TD - tiled deferred [BF3 for example]
F+ - forward +

http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/...wdown_ForwardPlusPlusVsDeferredRendering.ppsx

 

[supernormal]

I fully support the decision to go with the letterbox look, as it truly adds to the cinematic quality. It represents a better compromise for performance than upscaling, IMO. I am eager to try this.

I agree with this. I hope this type of look can now be accepted as a valid choice for other developers to use either for performance and/or aesthetic reasons.

 

[Kyoufu]

Does the HUD vanish when you're not shooting/taking hits? Or just during event scenes?

Yeah, seems like the hud vanishes when you don't fire.

 

[nib95]

He is correct.

1080p is the vertical resolution, and this isn't that.

It's 800p, the thing I don't get about that debate is people who like to argue it's not 800p seemed to be of the opinion saying it's not 1080p is somehow disparaging the game, not just being accurate. Call a spade a spade (a phrase taken from Dorian Gray ironically).

The industry will move to horizontal resolution referencing next-gen anyway, so this won't be a point of contention forever.

It's not 800p because the horizontal resolution would have to scale with it. It's 1080p with black borders or 2:40:1 aspect ratio, as described by countless directors, cinema and movie buffs, critics etc alike. You really think Deakins and Mendes refer to the Skyfall blu ray transfer as being 800p? Lol. It's 1080p letterboxed.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

can anyone tell me what the bar under the ammo icons means?

i also think the ammo number + ammo icons are a bit redundant.

HUD needs to be more minimal.

Just lower the opacity of the gun icon on the bottom right to 60% and it would be more than good enough. I would use the same effect on the gun name as well, leaving perhaps just the 42 bullets on the clip and whatever the hell that white thing at the bottom is 100% opacity white.

 

[EmptySpace]

These screens aren't direct feed,are they?

no, obviously.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Top hat shooting trophy incoming?

 

[The Rain King]

Would it make sense to display the hud over the black bars instead of over the picture?

Ask yourself would it make sense if the hud could be displayed off screen in a full screen game (as in on the frame of your TV somehow) to do that? Or would it break the immersion and be quite distracting?

 

[jiiikoo]

Top hat shooting trophy incoming?

Hope you can turn on the same effect that Halo 3 had when you did a headshot. Confetti or something like that?

 

[nib95]

I hope they add more opacity to the HUD elements, because white on moody dark colours is begging for image retention lol.

 

[Spongebob]

The Order: 1886 is rendered at 1920x800, it's that simple.

Let's not refer to it as 800p since that would imply a 1422x800 resolution.

Let's not refer to it as 1080p since that would imply a 1920x1080 resoution.

 

[jiiikoo]

I hope they add more opacity to the HUD elements, because white on moody dark colours is begging for image retention lol.

Or give the option to change the opacity. I don't understand why most games don't seem to have that option. I got pretty bad IR from playing Black Flag :<

 

[RoboPlato]

I hope they add more opacity to the HUD elements, because white on moody dark colours is begging for image retention lol.

If it's like Uncharted and it fades when you're not shooting it shouldn't be too bad.

 

[GarciaHotspur]

Am i the only one who make the link between the uniforms in The Order and the uniforms in FMA Brotherhood ?

I love it !

 

[StuBurns]

It's not 800p because the horizontal resolution would have to scale with it. It's 1080p with black borders or 2:40:1 aspect ratio, as described by countless directors, cinema and movie buffs, critics etc alike. You really think Deakins and Mendes refer to the Skyfall blu ray transfer as being 800p? Lol. It's 1080p letterboxed.

The film industry defines transfers by the horizontal resolution, things are 2k, 4k, 8k, etc. Those are rough terms though, 2k is 1920, 4k is 3840, etc. So the vertical resolution is irrelevant, in video games people refer to the vertical resolution, so it's not a very apt comparison.

I also don't care what Mendes calls it, he's a film director, not an image display engineer.

 

[twobear]

Xbone devs should definitely adopt the 1920x800 resolution, the 1:1 pixel mapping alone would do wonders for image quality.

 

[Raist]

Xbone devs should definitely adopt the 1920x800 resolution, the 1:1 pixel mapping alone would do wonders for image quality.

Well it's still more pixels than 1600x900, which so far is the best non-full 1080p anyone went for.

 

[Spongebob]

Xbone devs should definitely adopt the 1920x800 resolution, the 1:1 pixel mapping alone would do wonders for image quality.

The black bars associated with 1920x800 won't look good with all games. The Order is going for a "filmic" look, so the black bars don't look out of place IMO.

For multiplatform games it would also be strange to have XBO and PS4 versions which have different aspect ratios. As Raist mentioned above me, 1920x800 also has more pixels than 900p.

 

[twobear]

Well it's still more pixels than 1600x900, which so far is the best non-full 1080p anyone went for.

It's a handful more. With optimisation improvements they should be able to make that up easily. Ironic that the solution to Xbone's woes came from a Sony-owned studio.

The black bars associated with 1920x800 won't look good with all games. The Order is going for a "filmic" look, so the black bars don't look out of place IMO.

I think it would work fine for stuff like Ryse, Halo 5 and Gears.

 

[StuBurns]

People would be skeptical it was just to avoid performance limitations instead of a creative decision like with this game though. Probably just cause even worse PR.

 

[Kinyou]

Xbone devs should definitely adopt the 1920x800 resolution, the 1:1 pixel mapping alone would do wonders for image quality.

Not sure if it would fit a shooter like Titanfall but for something like Ryse this would have been the perfect solution

 

[Bunta]

It's a handful more. With optimisation improvements they should be able to make that up easily. Ironic that the solution to Xbone's woes came from a Sony-owned studio.

You could fit a lot of pixels in your hand.

Spoiler

hehe

 

[twobear]

People would be skeptical it was just to avoid performance limitations instead of a creative decision like with this game though. Probably just cause even worse PR.

And so? The image quality will still be improved, that's what's important.

[edit] Not really interested in dragging this thread super off-topic. The Order has fantastic graphics, still perched to see whether I think the gameplay is interesting. Bring on E3.

 

[jiiikoo]

[edit] Not really interested in dragging this thread super off-topic. The Order has fantastic graphics, still perched to see whether I think the gameplay is interesting. Bring on E3.

I hope they can make the gameplay interesting and not just more of the same thru out the whole game.

 

[DrunkDan]

I just don't like the idea of using a real serial killer from history. He's become this almost mythical figure, as if he wasn't an actual person. Even worse if he's revealed to be a half-breed or something.

I think games need to be delicate when they tackle historical events, and I don't trust anyone to do it respectfully.

I can already see Penny Dreadful making me throw something at the TV when they reveal him to be a vampire or some shit.

At least EA canceled Ripper, GAF would have seen a meltdown like no other.

I see where you're coming from but Assassins Creed has handled this type of thing pretty well in parts.

AC2 was excellent in this regard, plus the game gets instant brownie points for allowing me to fist fight the Pope.

I think if the ripper doesn't make an appearance they'll certainly allude to him at some point, but I like the suggestion that he might be a half breed creature. Would certainly tie in with how brutal some of the murders were.

Plus there's a good chance you'd get to kill him, so it's less glamourising him and more vilifying him so that would go down better. A little uproar wouldn't be the worst type of publicity either....

 

[StuBurns]

And so? The image quality will still be improved, that's what's important.

[edit] Not really interested in dragging this thread super off-topic. The Order has fantastic graphics, still perched to see whether I think the gameplay is interesting. Bring on E3.

I don't know if you want me to answer or not given you asked the question, but then suggested maybe you don't want to discuss it.

Maybe it's thread worthy "Is cinemascope the answer to 900p woes?" or whatnot.

 

[Cuyejo]

Not sure if it would fit a shooter like Titanfall but for something like Ryse this would have been the perfect solution

The Order has 96000 more pixels than Ryse, that would have meant even bigger black bars than seen here.

 

[EmptySpace]

Am i the only one who make the link between the uniforms in The Order and the uniforms in FMA Brotherhood ?

I love it !

well they're set in the same time period, no?

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

RAD should offer users a choice of colours for the bars so those who don't like black can change them. Maybe you could put a user theme in there, or some scrolly text, or something.

 

[twobear]

I don't know if you want me to answer or not given you asked the question, but then suggested maybe you don't want to discuss it.

Maybe it's thread worthy "Is cinemascope the answer to 900p woes?" or whatnot.

I'm not hugely interested in making a thread. If you want to, be my guest.

My point is only that they're already getting shit for dropping to sub-HD, so there's not really anything to lose from letterboxing it, but they're at least getting 1:1 pixel mapping.

 

[EmptySpace]

I'm not hugely interested in making a thread. If you want to, be my guest.

My point is only that they're already getting shit for dropping to sub-HD, so there's not really anything to lose from letterboxing it, but they're at least getting 1:1 pixel mapping.

you do know the order has a higher fov due to the aspect ratio, no? it's not just a simple elimination of the top and bottom part of the screen.

 

[DirgeExtinction]

RAD should offer users a choice of colours for the bars so those who don't like black can change them. Maybe you could put a user theme in there, or some scrolly text, or something.

Wouldn't that be more distracting?

 

[Chaostar]

Am i the only one who make the link between the uniforms in The Order and the uniforms in FMA Brotherhood ?

I love it !

Could also be part of the dev team.

Guess which one is Andrea Pessino.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

HUD needs to be more minimal.

They should move it into the black bar space lol. That'd really piss off the nitpickers.

 

[twobear]

you do know the order has a higher fov due to the aspect ratio, no? it's not just a simple elimination of the top and bottom part of the screen.

Sorry, I don't follow the relevance.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

This game looks really really good and I think the HUD is great to be honest.

 

[StuBurns]

you do know the order has a higher fov due to the aspect ratio, no? it's not just a simple elimination of the top and bottom part of the screen.

Has anyone ever actually said what the FoV is?

It looks no wider to me.

It shouldn't be either, FoV is based on player distance from the screen and screen size.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

They are? Good - I didn't know that. Thanks! Faith restored.

I, like you, would never be able to enjoy this game if the extra buckles and shoulder patches were missing. No doubt.

 

[Karl Hawk]

Could also be part of the dev team.

Guess which one is Andrea Pessino.

Andrea Pessino would qualify if he can sparkle manly.

 

[SniperHunter]

The clothes look alot less nice now..

is it just me or has the game been downgraded? The lighting looks really bland now