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The Pokémon Company issues statement on Palworld
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Power Pro
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This says to me that maybe they want to build a case before doing anything, because they don't want to flub it. So many people celebrating the outright plagiarism of character models, and design aspects of characters because "it's fun" just make me roll my eyes. It can be fun, but they should've made their own damn character designs.
ThatStupidLion
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Sounds like they have to put their big boy lawyer pants on and not just threaten basement dwelling little tommy with a C&D and call it a day
Tiago Rodrigues
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This isn't simply a fan mod or something...it's a videogame that sold 8M copies in 6 days. They need a solid case before doing anything whatsoever.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Every dollar Nintendo spends on this boondoggle is double what can't be spent on game development after they get their ass handed to them in court. Either ignore it, or try to compete.
a multicultural team of v
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All I can say is I hope this gets as weird and dramatic as possible because I want this to be a substory in the next Yakuza game.
In the US,
pals to collect doesn't matter, game design is extremely difficult to copyright
artwise it doesn't matter if they are stylistically similar, the standard is complex, but it would come down to whether the judge thinks they are too similar or not, attempting to merchandise or trademark the pals would cause increased scrutiny,
I don't know anything about Japan's standards though.
In the US, they might be able to get an injunction and force pocket pair to change the art direction, but like I said before, the judge presiding would matter and what Pocket Pair tries to do with the pals.
Ichiban getting way too involved and passionate about it or Kiryu being confused the whole time would probably be pretty good.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"We received many inquiries"
People really are sending them twitter DMs over this, lol.
People really are sending them twitter DMs over this, lol.
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bender
What time is it?
Dollars to donuts this is more about journos than it is fans.
Mortisfacio
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All the sweaty Pokemon fans clutching their Pikachu wondering why Palworld is allowed to exist.
The Pleasure
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Is this the dimensional merge or sonichu? The medallion holds the key!
Musashipan
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The game is trash and garbage and clearly a nefarious copy of Pokemon, whoever refuses to see that has serious problems. A Pokémon game from Nintendo would sell more. I don't even like Pokémon and the last Pokémon game I played was stadium because of the minigames. I sincerely hope that the games is taken down and the copycat dev is sued till they go bankrupt.
Have a nice day
Have a nice day
Hero of Spielberg
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'It's obviously a clear case of IP infringement ... we just have to figure out how'
Torrent of Pork
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if they just ai modified existing art, they would be infringing,
if they didn't it gets more complicated
newtypepilot
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aka please stop asking us.
The Palworld guys are smart. They didn't straight up copy but changed the designs just enough that it's very hard to go after legally. If Nintendo were to pursue them, they would need a rock solid case, or else it'll be a PR disaster. In a way it's bait and Palworld would get tons of PR either way.
Let's not kid ourselves though, it's all "inspired" from Pokemon and everything is just an iterative design. Even the other game they announced is just a hollow knight clone.
The Palworld guys are smart. They didn't straight up copy but changed the designs just enough that it's very hard to go after legally. If Nintendo were to pursue them, they would need a rock solid case, or else it'll be a PR disaster. In a way it's bait and Palworld would get tons of PR either way.
Let's not kid ourselves though, it's all "inspired" from Pokemon and everything is just an iterative design. Even the other game they announced is just a hollow knight clone.
Shits_McGiggles
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Is there even evidence that PalWorld devs are using AI in any way? Outside of maybe a translated statement (which may or may not be correctly translated), there hasn't been any verifiable evidence of AI being used. I think the "AI" angle is being exaggerated by people who don't fully understand what the technology is.
The Pokemon Company would have pounced on this shit day 0 if there were actually any instances of meaningful infringement.
The Pokemon Company would have pounced on this shit day 0 if there were actually any instances of meaningful infringement.
PR is an entirely different issue, I assume they have a bunch of bean counters calculating how any action they take would effect pokemon.
dottme
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That's basically what most company communication is. You don't want to say anything stupid. So this kind of message is often without any meaning.
This way, the lawyer team can continue to work on the case without risking one of their own company message returned in their face.
ChorizoPicozo
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da faq?
FeralEcho
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Nintendo fanboys/girls really don't have a life, It's honestly pathetic.Who the fuck cares what these companies do with eachother's properties,they don't care about you,imagine wasting your precious time on investigating this shit when you aren't getting paid for it and the company you stan for literally don't cares for you.When has game freak for example listened to fan demands lmao They've been making some of the worst technical showpieces for the console when they clearly have the budget for something better and they work on one of the biggest I.P.s on the planet.
Nintendo's flock of fanboys and fangirls trully are the cucks of the industry...
Live image of a Nintendo fan when his neighbour comes to "visit" his girlfriend:
Oddvintagechap
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is every pal just a slightly changed pokemon? I wonder if the code contains the original pokemon names just to have the move sets easier to attach to each pal.
FeralEcho
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Yet somehow still more effort than Gamefreak puts in their games
Self_Destructive
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This game, and the design of many of its Pals, was unveiled in 2021.. years ago. If Nintendo/TPC had a case, they would have made it long before the game ever got to release.
Icymanipulator
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Still don’t see the problem. Games are inspired by other games all the time. Dozens of Pokémon clones over the years. But this one blew up lol.
Good luck in court Nintendo
You’ll need it.
Good luck in court Nintendo
You’ll need it.
FoxMcChief
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To summarize:
Codes 208
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Nothing about this suggests theyre trying to take the palworld devs to court.Still don’t see the problem. Games are inspired by other games all the time. Dozens of Pokémon clones over the years. But this one blew up lol.
Good luck in court Nintendo
You’ll need it.
Not to mention that gamefreak and TPC dont cease and desist smaller devs to the same extent nintendo does otherwise theyve wouldve gone for their throats when this game was first revealed years ago.
Fabieter
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It definitely helped sell their game that everything looks so damn similar and it helped roll the hype in. But it doesn't matter as long as they didn't rip anything if they did than they deserve to get sued to oblivion.
Mr Reasonable
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Both seem plausible to me.
I can imagine that Nintendo/The Pokemon company will want to defend their IP if it's possible to do so, but also that they're suddenly dealing with a bulk of messages from people asking for comment.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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You sir, have understood the art of war.
Let it have some spotlight in the next Nintendo Direct. Profit off of the revenue on your platform and then watch the hype die slowly while more people become hungry for the next installment of the real deal.
Fredrik
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Sounds like they won’t do anything and just want people to stop bothering them.
Most interesting thing there is when they say they will work to ”bring the world together through Pokémon” in the future.
Wishful thinking I guess but it sounds like they notice that people outside of the Nintendo bubble are interested and they’re thinking about bringing Pokémon to Steam.
How else would they bring the world together? Mobile? They already have Pokémon on mobiles.
Most interesting thing there is when they say they will work to ”bring the world together through Pokémon” in the future.
Wishful thinking I guess but it sounds like they notice that people outside of the Nintendo bubble are interested and they’re thinking about bringing Pokémon to Steam.
How else would they bring the world together? Mobile? They already have Pokémon on mobiles.
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Clintizzle
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Just like Plaworld. Heyooooo
ahtlas7
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Are they allowing the cash to flow in only to later sue demanding a portion of that phat haul?
I’ve played the game for several hours and it doesn’t feel like a Pokemon game to me. It feels like a 3rd person Black & White while using Pokémon inspired ideation with some of the character models seemingly iterative.
If Pal is using stolen work and art then sue the fuck out of them but if it just looks similar, well, artist have been doing that since the dawn of art.
I’ve played the game for several hours and it doesn’t feel like a Pokemon game to me. It feels like a 3rd person Black & White while using Pokémon inspired ideation with some of the character models seemingly iterative.
If Pal is using stolen work and art then sue the fuck out of them but if it just looks similar, well, artist have been doing that since the dawn of art.
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MagiusNecros
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Game would have been shut down if they were infringing on Pokemon when they released their first trailer a couple years ago.
Unknown Soldier
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I read this statement as "If we were going to sue their asses we would have done it by now. The fact we haven't implies we don't think we have a case. Please stop fucking emailing us."
If I was Nintendo, I would be offering Pocket Pair a very, very generous buyout offer. "Take the offer, or we WILL sue your asses, and even if we lose, we'll bury you with years of legal harassment." Then once Pocket Pair is owned by Nintendo, the game can finally be rebranded Pokemon Gun and real Pokemon can be put in the game
If I was Nintendo, I would be offering Pocket Pair a very, very generous buyout offer. "Take the offer, or we WILL sue your asses, and even if we lose, we'll bury you with years of legal harassment." Then once Pocket Pair is owned by Nintendo, the game can finally be rebranded Pokemon Gun and real Pokemon can be put in the game
Joshmyersbv
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Imagine being the type of person who emails a Multi-billion dollar company and asks them to investigate a significantly smaller company because your butt hurt their game uses a similar art style and is more fun to play than the shit the Multi-billion dollar company gives you.
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