ViewtifulJC
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Paramount trying to stealth release this movie judging by the marketing strategy
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The Star Trek Beyond News & Production Thread: Maximum Warp, PUNCH IT!
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't know if they're hiding it, or if they're simply waiting to rush media with ads in a compressed 3 week period. It seems a lot of studios might be leaning more towards this model as opposed to a prolonged, monthslong ad campaign that seems to have been serving people already inclined to see the movie (i.e. US) as opposed to drawing in new audience.
Or they could be hiding it.
I don't like the new uniforms, by the way.
Or they could be hiding it.
I don't like the new uniforms, by the way.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised but I don't think it's gonna happen, and I actually liked the last one (even if it barely resembled a Trek film).
And the fact that the trailer suggested it was going to be a 2 Trek 2 Furious piece of shit.
Motorbikes?
And the fact that the trailer suggested it was going to be a 2 Trek 2 Furious piece of shit.
Motorbikes?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I will never not call out the mislaid sense of intellectual superiority when it comes to that "real Trek" line of thought.
Into Darkness resembles a Trek film just as much as any other Star Trek film, and is better as a film and as a Star Trek story than half of the series.
The rigid (and often boring) definition of what Trek can be (and what it cannot be) is very often not just incorrect, but very limiting.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
There was an interesting story from a month ago when it was conspicuously absent from CinemaCon. Why the Hell Aren't We Hearing More About Star Trek Beyond?
Himynameischris
Member
Well it's not out until July 22 in the US so they do have two months if they start the media blitz today...but when is the earliest international release date?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
You can be as borderline condescending as you want, but this is a frequent complaint of the film by many people that love Star Trek, so it's hardly an objectively incorrect opinion.
It's simple really, it felt like an action film first and took extreme liberties with established Trek lore. When you see such ridiculous things as a Starfleet vessel being ordered to fire missiles at Qo'noS etc, it just pulls me right out of the film.
Even the bad movies felt like overly long episodes of the TV show.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't think it was borderline condescending, especially not in comparison to the outright condescension inherent in suggesting there's a "Real Trek" threshold to begin with.
The fact that many people love Star Trek and adhere to that ridiculous and unearned snobbery doesn't change that it's ridiculous and unearned snobbery. In fact, that condition is precisely what I'm poking at when I bring it up.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
How do you define 'earned' in this situation, does watching 100's of hours of TV shows and movies not earn you an opinion on what Trek means to you personally? I don't see how you are equating this to snobbery.
Also, I didn't use the phrase 'Real Trek' in my post, this would suggest I consider 'Into Darkness' fake Trek, which I do not.
HUELEN10
Member
Gonna have to make a huge update post tonight, but in the meantime...
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/more-star-trek-beyond-behind-the-scenes-photos/
Loving the Starfleet logo, and it's great to see Keenser.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/more-star-trek-beyond-behind-the-scenes-photos/
Loving the Starfleet logo, and it's great to see Keenser.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
There is a Real Trek threshold. Into Darkness failed to meet it by being an action movie with the level of intelligence that of your average hamster. Just like the novels and comics aren't real Trek because they aren't canon, the Reboot Universe isn't real Trek because it is a separate universe.
Call it snobbery, but fuck if I care. 25 seasons of television has defined what Star Trek is and what it should be.
Trek doesn't really work as movies. At best you'll get overly long, but decent TV show episodes like TMP and Undiscovered Country, at worst you get utter unearned crap like Into Darkness.
Simo
Member
Yeah. Imagine if they should show it to the people attending and don't even upload it tonight...lol
Karl Urban just posted this on his twitter:
HUELEN10
Member
Yeah. Imagine if they should show it to the people attending and don't even upload it tonight...lol
Karl Urban just posted this on his twitter:
That enterprise looks different!
And the time signature!
Is that a new refit? A New 1701-A?!?!?
Obviously unfinished, but it looks different enough no?
AHHHHH HYPE!
Cross-Section
Member
Huh. They really like ending these movies with the opening narration, don't they?
Is Urban doing it?
e: Wait, it's probably the entire bridge cast doing separate lines of it.
Is Urban doing it?
e: Wait, it's probably the entire bridge cast doing separate lines of it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's snobberyas exposed by the 25 seasons of television you're trying to cite, much of which is dumber and more lowbrow than Into Darkness ever achieved.
Star Trek has had action, even dumb action throughout its entire existence.
Also, TMP is decent?!
Octavianus
Banned
MisterHero
Super Member
Ignore the ups and downs of the series in general and compare the works that actually share material.
Is Into Darkness better than Space Seed.
My opinion
Is Into Darkness better than Space Seed.
My opinion
___No___
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Where the trailer at?!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Why would I do that tho?
I've owned the original series on DVD and Blu-Ray
I actually have a laserdisc copy of that episode still.
I played Lt. Spinelli in a stage adaptation of the episode for Trek in the Park's second season.
Into Darkness is better than Space Seed.
Of course, it's kinda unfair as Space Seed was made on a much smaller budget, as part of a TV series, with a fraction of the assets and resources poured into it. But if I was offered the choice of which one to put into the player I would take Into Darkness every time.
That's not to say Cumberbatch is a better Khan, because he isn't. But overall, Into Darkness is a better story, told better, than what's happening in Space Seed.
Rabbi_Vole
Banned
So where's the new trailer?
Into Darkness is a noisy jumble of nonsense. In no way, shape, or form is it better than the episode it stole from. It even manages to get the point of Space Seed/Wrath of Khan wrong.
I'm sure your role as ardent apologist served you in good stead on stage.
s_mirage
Member
How? Neither have happened in the new continuity, so what point did they get wrong? You could also argue that TWoK got the point of Space Seed wrong, but that would be another argument for another day.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It stole virtually nothing from Space Seed outside of the idea someone unthawed Khan. You're talking nonsense
It was performed before anyone knew what an Into Darkness was, but okay.
Also, not sure how pointing out Star Trek on the whole isn't nearly as intellectual or highbrow as people prefer to portray it can be classified as "apologism" really, but again - okay.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
There are others that actually liked Into Darkness? My wife and I are not alone in this world then?
Two months til release and it doesn't even have a poster.
Simo
Member
Naw I really liked it too. Actually thinking on watching both movies this weekend as it's been awhile.
s_mirage
Member
No you're not. It's far more popular than this forum suggests, including among Trek fans. What I find quite interesting is that the new films tend to be pretty well liked by fans who were introduced to Trek through TOS or the TOS movies, including some who were around for Trek's original run. It tends to be fans who got into Trek through TNG or Voyager that bemoan the JJVerse as not being real Trek.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, at some point, the fandom rolled over to looking at things as though TNG was the be-all/end-all of Star Trek, when it probably has the least in common with almost every other show or movie (including its own). It's likely a generational thing.
How the anomaly came to be regarded as the mean, I don't know.
Maybe it's because it's the third best show.
Jeffolation
Banned
As far as Star Trek movies go, Into Darkness was pretty middle of the road. I mean this franchise has entries as bad as The Final Frontier and Nemesis after all.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I don't hate Into Darkness. For me, it falls into the category of being either the worst good Trek movie or best shit Trek movie.
I think Beyond will turn out okay.
I think Beyond will turn out okay.
BigJonsson
Member
There is a new trailer tonight? About time
Rabbi_Vole
Banned
I enjoyed it.. I also liked metroid other m.
Simo
Member
Doors open for the event. I'll put the rest in the spoiler code and won't post the photo as I'm not sure what kind of spoilers you guys want or don't want but it looks like the event is onboard the
EDIT: Ah corridor leads to a auditorium they constructed. Looks really cool. TrekMovie has a video of it on their twitter page.
Enterprise 1701-A? It's registry plaque is present as you walk in and the corridors so far are like the starship.
EDIT: Ah corridor leads to a auditorium they constructed. Looks really cool. TrekMovie has a video of it on their twitter page.
HUELEN10
Member
It's starting soon. Q and a link later via buzzfeed LIVE!
Octavianus
Banned
It's 4am and I have to get up at 7... why am I still awake for this?
Himynameischris
Member
Damn it's in LA....I should have gone
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