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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC
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bishoptl said:
See, I find that questionable, but even if I agree with that, the moral choice would be to sacrifice himself. Not make the decision for Otis and leave him as zombie chow. Its one thing to be weak of heart for a moment, but Shane made a brutal choice for someone else in a violent manner.
All that said, I do agree it makes Shane much more interesting. Even moreso that his returned is embraced by Lori and saves Carl's life, both whom he still is attached too, validating his choice with Otis that he clearly is having major problems with. They need more of that kind of writing, stat!
Him shooting Otis is a jerk move, but the story rewarding him for doing it? Now that's great writing.
MisterHero
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You guys laugh now but Zombie Otis is gonna eat Shane
but Otis kinda had it coming even if shooting Carl was an accident
but Otis kinda had it coming even if shooting Carl was an accident
Thought it was a mediocre episode.... until that awesome ending.
Did they provide any further context in episode 1 for how exactly their house can be 1 mile away from zombie highway, yet they don't have any home fortifications, and even have lights on? They mentioned something about a gate this episode. Are we just to presume they have a heavy-duty 9ft tall gate surrounding the farm with a firmly secured entrance / exit?
Did they provide any further context in episode 1 for how exactly their house can be 1 mile away from zombie highway, yet they don't have any home fortifications, and even have lights on? They mentioned something about a gate this episode. Are we just to presume they have a heavy-duty 9ft tall gate surrounding the farm with a firmly secured entrance / exit?
My friend pointed out that Otis probably came quite close to shooting Shane through the zombie that he shot to save him when he was backed up against that fence.
I'd have found it funny if he had stuck around and his character flaw was forgetting that bullets go through things.
I'd have found it funny if he had stuck around and his character flaw was forgetting that bullets go through things.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Come on guys, if you're making zombie bait you can't ruin a perfectly delicious brain with a bullet to the head.
BattleMonkey
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lawblob said:
If it's a farm that had livestock, then they would have a fairly good fence set up probably. Property is large enough then the fence would possibly keep away any undead as to not really notice the humans at the far off house.
But yea not sure why they would have power and running water still.
Cornballer
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They're very, very good. It's already been renewed for next season.PersonaX said:
firehawk12
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Yeah, I'll echo that the ending pretty much saved a very boring episode. (There also seems to be a lot more Jesus this season, or that could be me.)
Angry Fork
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Holy shit @ Shane. Cold blooooded.
I'm on his side. Hopefully he kills the rest of the cast except Rick and Daryl.
ThisWreckage
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http://www.salon.com/2011/10/31/dear_walking_dead_please_shut_up/
This nails what problems I have with the show. Don't have characters wax philosophical if they're yokels.
This nails what problems I have with the show. Don't have characters wax philosophical if they're yokels.
BattleMonkey
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&Divius said:Didn't care for the episode, againKnew what happened with Shane and Otis from the opening shot alone, so obvious. Also skipped through all the Rock/Lori shit.
On to next week, please be good.
What are you exactly looking for if your skipping through so much in this show?
Spirit of Jazz
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"Thank you for all the zombies Jesus."
People turning to God is really starting to irk me in this show (admittedly not the biggest issue it has) especially given that I can't recall any praying in the comic.
People turning to God is really starting to irk me in this show (admittedly not the biggest issue it has) especially given that I can't recall any praying in the comic.
LowParry
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&Divius said:Didn't care for the episode, again
On to next week, please be good.
Why are you even watching?
Great episode I thought. The ending really brought about a new twist with the series. Need more episodes like this where I don't see anything too obvious of what's to come. Otis
BattleMonkey
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ThisWreckage said:
Just because they are from the south doesn't mean they can't be "philosophical"
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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The writers don't know any other way to explain a character's thoughts and motivations.Spirit of Jazz said:
ThisWreckage
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Puddles said:
No, he's 100% right. This show is mediocre through and through because it wants to relentlessly pile on drama with shitty monologues and strained conversations when it should be embracing the B movie spirit that accompanies most zombie productions. Not to mention that the writers are hellbent on drawing out story arcs that ends up being borderline filler.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Yeah, don't skip stuff in a TV show. Or, if you're that disinterested in huge chunks of the show, it's a sign to stop watching.
I like what they're doing with Shane, but having read the comics I'm thinking that they're only doing it to try and bring the developments that were supposed to already have taken place with him to fruition. Although,
. I'm guessing in the show, he gets bit soon. There was a teaser trailer before the season started that showed him solo, running down a road being chased by a horde in broad daylight.
I don't think they'll have Carl kill him
I want to like it soooo bad because it has so much potential, but the writing/melodrama is atrocious.CcrooK said:Why are you even watching?
Great episode I thought. The ending really brought about a new twist with the series. Need more episodes like this where I don't see anything too obvious of what's to come. Otis
Well written decent/good television and zombies.BattleMonkey said:
edit: I'm not saying it was all bad, I liked the scenes with Shane and the scenes with Andrea & Daryl in the woods.
ThisWreckage
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&Divius said:
I hate to tell you, but the writing on this show isn't going to improve. The characters are essentially a hodge podge of stereotypes and it severely limits what the writers can do. The show is also a lot more slow paced than it should be.
BattleMonkey
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&Divius said:
Well the series is packed with melodrama, the comics are full of it and in some cases even more. If you haven't liked the writing till now, I don't see it improving for you.
If folks want action, they are also going to be dissapointed as the show has tons of downtime coming and the original series had huge segments without any zombies even. I imagine the TV show is going to toss in a bunch of action just to keep episodes from ending up zombie free.
I just had an epiphany... and I apologize if this has been discussed already. But comic book spoilers marked....
I believe we'll be reunited with Merle as
. He cut off his own hand to get away from the rooftop.
I believe we'll be reunited with Merle as
The Governor
They'll write that into the story as a revenge slicing to Rick's hand for leaving him there. Eye for an eye, hand for a hand.
BattleMonkey
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Davedough said:
Yea some folks were guessing that since season 1
-Pyromaniac-
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lol. Latest.epiphany.ever.Davedough said:
ThisWreckage said:
It'll improve if they stop taking the show down weird fetch-quest tangents that don't advance the story and get to the major locations from the comic series.
People calling Rick a stereotype won't be saying that for long if we ever get to the prison.
ThisWreckage said:
I agree that the show has been mediocre at times, but not for the reasons this guy lists.
That salon.com link is garbage. That guy writes like shit and his criticisms are somewhat valid, but more often than not I end up wondering what exactly he wants out of this show.
For example, the porch scene with Glenn and Maggie was good, I thought. As a non-christian, I was getting annoyed by everybody suddenly finding god, so it was nice to see somebody with faith look at things the way I would have given the circumstances.
I don't get what people are expecting from this show. I see comments about fast-forwarding through dialogue and I just get the impression that those are people who are just in it for the gore. If thats the case, go beat off to your issues of Fangoria or watch a mashup of horror killings on YouTube because that stuff will be way more satisfying.
I like this show. I think this week's episode was a sign that its headed in the right direction. Yeah, its very different from the comic, but I like that because it keeps me guessing. I like not knowing what is coming next.
For example, the porch scene with Glenn and Maggie was good, I thought. As a non-christian, I was getting annoyed by everybody suddenly finding god, so it was nice to see somebody with faith look at things the way I would have given the circumstances.
I don't get what people are expecting from this show. I see comments about fast-forwarding through dialogue and I just get the impression that those are people who are just in it for the gore. If thats the case, go beat off to your issues of Fangoria or watch a mashup of horror killings on YouTube because that stuff will be way more satisfying.
I like this show. I think this week's episode was a sign that its headed in the right direction. Yeah, its very different from the comic, but I like that because it keeps me guessing. I like not knowing what is coming next.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Has there been much to show that it can work as anything else right now?Puddles said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's not about wanting to fast-forward through the dialogue because it's dialogue. It's because it's bad dialogue.Moofers said:
Did you really need that girl to tell you "lol it doesn't feel like our prayers are being answered?" It's such an awkward platitude that everyone is already thinking. Same with Lori's loud realization that "this world isn't right for a child!" So many groans at this garbage.
Mad Men is critically acclaimed for its dialogue, but the best part of the writing on that show and why it's acclaimed is what the characters don't say. The Walking Dead doesn't appear to know how to let you understand any of their characters unless they're praying to the sky or stopping everything to have a drawn-out conversation with someone else.
Think about it this way: how much talking did Shane do in this episode? And how much do you now know about him, and how interesting is he because of his actions? Now imagine if he just stood around talking to himself or Rick about what he did. That's what every other character is doing.
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