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[Gahiggidy]

How?

Well, I'm thinking of those scrafs with stringy yarn at the end. For example...

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Also, I think that "button" below the cross-stick is not a button at all but rather a painted on symbol, temporary, of where the NFC happens.

 

[AceBandage]

Wait. So what's going on tomorrow? IdeaMan is supposed to reveal some big piece of news or something?

He wanted to make two topics when he hits member (which I think would be Monday).
One was about the controller being revised.
The other is something else he won't say.

 

[carlos]

You're comparing an expensive add on to a brand new console man...

I'm talking mainly about profits/the economics of the whole launch; sure Udraw was expensive, but how much of a hit could nintendo's war chest take due to R&D, Manufacturing, distribution, etc.

Just saying, the economy is definitely in worse shape than in previous console launches, and every survey I've seen so far doesn't have the WiiU as a must have item this hoiday. (I know, I know, too little has been revealed to date).

 

[NeoRausch]

Don't know if it's already been said, but I think one of the "misterious square buttons" is actually the vitality sensor. Put your thumb over it and ta-da! Heart rate measured.

And ta-da you can't use the right stick, face buttons or start/select.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm talking mainly about profits/the economics of the whole launch; sure Udraw was expensive, but how much of a hit could nintendo's war chest take due to R&D, Manufacturing, distribution, etc.

Just saying, the economy is definitely in worse shape than in previous console launches, and every survey I've seen so far doesn't have the WiiU as a must have item this hoiday. (I know, I know, too little has been revealed to date).

Nintendo has like 10 billion in the bank. They'll be fine. They aren't operating on a razor thin margin like Sony and MS.
Their franchises are bigger than they've ever been.
They have brand new marketing and a whole new focus.

There is no comparison to UDraw in any way, what so ever.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Hey ideaman PM me the second topic you wanted to make so if it gets leaked between now and a little later I cna back you up

Believe.

 

[IdeaMan]

I hope the guy isn't fired.

Just make him sleep for the rest of the month surrounded by lifesize Waluigi plushies.

The apparent re-design isn't ground-breaking in itself, if the DRC was suddenly black with a totally different shape, material, apparent new earth-shattering features, then it would be another matter. It's fortunate for us to be able to see this picture, but i think it would have been better for him and for us (for the surprise factor) to just describe some elements of the things. My two cents.

and thanks for taking my defense

 

[Shiggy]

What I wonder, ideaman, why didn't you say anything when I posted sketches of the revised controller?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

The best thing is that sticks aren't directly above the buttons. Good stuff

 

[test_account]

They aren't operating on a razor thin margin like Sony and MS.

After seeing what happened with 3DS (which is now selling with a loss), i wonder how Nintendo will do it with the WiiU. If they will try to price it with a high profit first, then drop the price if the WiiU ends up selling much lower than their expectations. Or if they will just price it low to begin with.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

If it was changed because of developers, I find it really weird that Nintendo didn't realize themselves some of the issues with the one we saw at E3.

 

[axisofweevils]

Nintendo has like 10 billion in the bank. They'll be fine. They aren't operating on a razor thin margin like Sony and MS.
Their franchises are bigger than they've ever been.
They have brand new marketing and a whole new focus.

There is no comparison to UDraw in any way, what so ever.

Also, UDraw did very well on Wii.
It's when they tried to replicate the success on the other consoles that they ran into problems.

 

[AceBandage]

After seeing what happened with 3DS (which is now selling with a loss), i wonder how Nintendo will do it with the WiiU. If they will try to price it with a high profit first, then drop the price if the WiiU ends up selling much lower than their expectations. Or if they will just price it low to begin with.

I'll say what I've been saying since day one.
It's very likely they'll sell it at cost (IE: What it costs to make and ship the unit), and profit off of software sales from day one.

If it was changed because of developers, I find it really weird that Nintendo didn't realize themselves some of the issues with the one we saw at E3.

Nintendo likes to operate in their own universe, which is part of the reason we like their games.
For this type of stuff, it's always better to have lots of input from people you work with that aren't in your company.

 

[DocTarHeel]

If it was changed because of developers, I find it really weird that Nintendo didn't realize themselves some of the issues with the one we saw at E3.

Probably had something to do with the genre of games being developed. An optimal FPS lay-out is different from an optimal platformer lay-out, etc. Hopefully this is a nice middle ground.

 

[Portugeezer]

IdeaMan has more news? When is this coming? Tomorrow or Monday?

 

[Thrillhouse]

The best thing is that sticks aren't directly above the buttons. Good stuff

Indeed, switching between sticks and buttons is a much more natural motion this way.

 

[axisofweevils]

I've just noticed something about the Wii U controller

The + - buttons double as the START / SELECT buttons.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/05/5826991451.jpg

 

[IdeaMan]

What I wonder, ideaman, why didn't you say anything when I posted sketches of the revised controller?

I've kept the biggest cartridges for the end (before E3), and the patent of the updated controller was post a long time ago.

Besides, as you have seen, there are differences (apparently small) between it and the picture leaked.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Nintendo likes to operate in their own universe, which is part of the reason we like their games.
For this type of stuff, it's always better to have lots of input from people you work with that aren't in your company.

It's true, they live in a bubble, for better or for worse. Usually better at least.

 

[Cheesecakebobby]

I've kept the biggest cartridges for the end, and the patent of the updated controller was post a long time ago.

WII U NOW USES CARTRIDGES CONFIRMED

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

WII U NOW USES CARTRIDGES CONFIRMED

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

[axisofweevils]

I've enhanced the image slightly.

See + is the START button
- is the SELECT button.

They're dual purpose.

 

[AceBandage]

WII U NOW USES CARTRIDGES CONFIRMED

Holographic Cards.

I've enhanced the image slightly.

See + is the START button
- is the SELECT button.

They're dual purpose.

Well, they always were, even on the Wii.
Just now it's easier to tell.

 

[Nilaul]

Huh...

What this? Under The controller?

 

[Sendou]

Disregard. Tired etc.

 

[Barry Burton]

I think he means what is plugged into the back.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I think it's a charger, that little grey one at the top is probably connected to it. They just laid the controller on top of it.

 

[NeoGohan]

Typical Nintendo, worry more about hardware and looking cool then to worry about graphics, HD resolutions and games for hardcore gamers. Nintendo will never be a console for the real gamers because they've made it clear year in year out at E3 that they cater to children by solely making Japanese anime style games and poke man type crap that appeal to snot nosed brats.

lol IGN users

 

[Smellycat]

IdeaMan has more news? When is this coming? Tomorrow or Monday?

10 minutes after someone else leaks them.

 

[Shiggy]

I've kept the biggest cartridges for the end (before E3), and the patent of the updated controller was post a long time ago.

Besides, has you have seen, there are differences (apparently small) between it and the picture leaked.

Yes, I noticed a few minor differences such as the square beneath the dpad. Do you actually know whether the Wii U pad allows other devices, e.g. a pulse oxymeter, to build up a connection to it via bluetooth?

 

[Strife91]

lol IGN users

I hate that place.

 

[test_account]

I'll say what I've been saying since day one.
It's very likely they'll sell it at cost (IE: What it costs to make and ship the unit), and profit off of software sales from day one.

Could be.

 

[DocTarHeel]

I've enhanced the image slightly.

See + is the START button
- is the SELECT button.

They're dual purpose.

Classic Controller was like that too.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Who knew analog sticks would get me so excited about a product. I was afraid I was gonna have to go through 5-6+ years of sliders on a Nintendo console.

Thank you, based Iwata

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

lol IGN users

And people are surprised at the recent system interest IGN poll

 

[Shiggy]

Thank god they use circular shape for the sticks now.

 

[snesfreak]

lol IGN users

Iwata: *laughs*

 

[Terrell]

So true.

Nintendo is not taking anything we, or any other message board, say seriously.
They'll get feed back through real R&D and through third parties.

Plenty of time for that prior to E3 2011.

 

[AceBandage]

Plenty of time for that prior to E3 2011.

I'm not going to do this between two threads, but I'll just say this:

You really think Nintendo is listening to forums for what they should do? Really?
Nintendo?

 

[japtor]

I've kept the biggest cartridges for the end (before E3), and the patent of the updated controller was post a long time ago.

Besides, has you have seen, there are differences (apparently small) between it and the picture leaked.

WII U NOW USES CARTRIDGES CONFIRMED

This is the exactly the kind of funky English I've been talking about!

 

[Nilaul]

Theres a slot on the top of the controller (where that green and white thing is attached), and a slot at the bottem. I think I see a mini usb thing next to the bottem slot

 

[IdeaMan]

Yes, I noticed a few minor differences such as the square beneath the dpad. Do you actually know whether the Wii U pad allows other devices, e.g. a pulse oxymeter, to build up a connection to it via bluetooth?

I don't know if there is a built-in vitality-sensor, or if Nintendo planned an attached device allowing this function.

What i'm nearly sure is that third-parties weren't aware of an additional feature like that on the DRC until late april and even beginning of may. It doesn't exclude the possibility that the updated padlet will indeed include a secret thing that we ignored until its reveal though

 

[NeoGohan]

it would be the biggest flop

Worst idea ever.

They forgot to write to word "fail" on it

too big
waaaay too big

too big

why does the controller have a screen?

Looks so uncomfortable... I don't need a screen on my controller that's what my tv is for...

time to stop reading, need to take care of my mental sanity

 

[AceBandage]

Theres a slot on the top of the controller (where that green and white thing is attached), and a slot at the bottem. I think I see a mini sub thing next to the bottem slot

On the bottom is an HDMI port (for tethered connection) and two slots for connection add ons.

 

[Terrell]

I'm not going to do this between two threads, but I'll just say this:

You really think Nintendo is listening to forums for what they should do? Really?
Nintendo?

They're listening for user perception of the system. Marketing firms often collect product announcement feedback for electronics manufacturers to ensure the product they demonstrated strikes a chord with users in the demographics targeted, and Nintendo wants to target the core gamer this time, so our feedback was obviously collected.

Example: the PS3 batarang. Had all the same functionality of a Dual Shock. Changed due to public perception of the shape of it.

To make the statement that it never happens or that Nintendo is some sort of magical exception is foolhardy.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'm not going to do this between two threads, but I'll just say this:

You really think Nintendo is listening to forums for what they should do? Really?
Nintendo?

forreal the company just figured out the internet exists recently

 

[AceBandage]

They're listening for user perception of the system. Marketing firms often collect product announcement feedback for electronics manufacturers to ensure the product they demonstrated strikes a chord with users.

Example: the PS3 batarang. Had all the same functionality of a Dual Shock. Changed due to public perception of the shape of it.

To make the statement that it never happens or that Nintendo is some sort of magical exception is foolhardy.

The day Nintendo ever listens to forum users is the day I leave gaming. I'm sorry, but it's crazy. We'd have grim dark Mario games akin to MGS4 if that was true.

 

[HylianTom]

time to stop reading, need to take care of my mental sanity

Keep, these special, special people in mind when Nintendo's U rules the charts, Wii-style.

 

[test_account]

The day Nintendo ever listens to forum users is the day I leave gaming. I'm sorry, but it's crazy. We'd have grim dark Mario games akin to MGS4 if that was true.

They only do changes if they agree with what they hear. If they have strong believe in something, then they wont change it.

 

[NeoRausch]

The day Nintendo ever listens to forum users is the day I leave gaming.

project rainfall. Have fun with you sticks and ropes now!

But seriiously.... They really shouldn't.