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The Witcher 3 probably not 1080P on consoles
- Thread starter Anarkin
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912p or bust!
Why not 791p?
Pseudo judo
Member
Built my PC earlier this year with a 770 4gb fully expecting I'll need to sli to run this title at 1080P Ultra settings. I'll get my second card come Black Friday or Boxing Day. I'll be more then ready when this sucker drops next year.
Leafhopper
Banned
Doubt it.
Sentenza
Member
Sure, but what you are missing is that when we are talking about canned animations, we already reached the point where technological limitations weren't a particularly relevant/limiting factor a while ago.
Right now you won't see animations that are blatantly "last" or "current" gen. You'll see animators who are more or less talented at doing their work.
Just to take an example every Sony fan seems to hold close to his heart... Do you think every developer around will be able to top what Naughty Dogs did on PS3 with TLoU on "current gen"?
No, they won't, because most studios won't have neither the talent nor the budget to work at that level.
This thread already delivers.
shinobi602
Member
What's fake? The interview?
Shaunboy97
Member
XB1 is already running at 900p... It might not hit 1080 but I shouldn't go lower than 900p.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap... you can run more things while rendering the graphics but it is hard and yet new to use.
You can for example do all the wind physics simulation via ACEs with the GPU doing both simultaneous and freeing up the CPU.
More ACEs = more compute taks you can run in GPU simultaneous.
That res is exclusive to Xbox One®
That still does not make a ACE a similar thing to a SPU. ;-)
On the GPU, (programmed) computations are performed on the CUs, and the ACEs are there to schedule and dispatch workload to the CUs. On Cell, the SPUs might be very roughly comparable to the CUs, since they also perform programmed computations, but the do it much more autonomously. There is no fire-and-forget hardware logic (like the ACEs) to schedule workloads to them. It had to be programmed manually, following one of many possible patterns.
coughlanio
Member
That forced M$ parity.
Why does this even matter anymore?
Cizeta-Moroder
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ethomaz
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Darkstorne
Member
Of course it applies. You just proved it. Someone claimed the anims in The Witcher 3 don't look technically impressive, you said animations are artistic only and not reliant on tech, I pointed out how tech and hardware can significantly improve animations by making them completely dynamic instead of canned and fixed.
Yes, The Witcher 3 does not use dynamic animations. That's probably why some people feel they look "last gen". When you improve visual fidelity, canned animations stand out more easily. AI is facing similar complaints at the start of this new generation, and I'm excited to see how developers improve both AI and animation complexity over the next half decade.
Witcher 2 ran fine if you didn't use ubersampling.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
MS money hatting resolution from sony now eh? I see how it is. If I cant get it no one will.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Played The Witcher 1 and 2 on my PC.
Will do the same with #3
My 2GB GTX770 Twin Frozr is ready
lol 2GB?
You need at least 8
They example is in context of the parallel working method of both. The SPU work is all out about batch your work on each so then when a job is done you don't get batch stalls in the gaps, keep the gaps small and staggered. The logic flow on the cell was crap so to make it work well you had to code with the prediction in your methods.
With GPGPU then the large que of ACE's can reorganise the GPU workload within each cycle meaning if something changes mid job it can que up another to fill the gap.
Layman example but generally how it works.
Must be Lazy devs if a game isnt 1080p on ps4.
Holiday 2015
That's why I'm iffy on the PC version. They might keep one or two effects but if all assets are downgraded for parity then that would be incredibly disappointing.
CyberPunked
Member
How bad is your PC?
Pseudo judo
Member
Sure it can run at 1080P but at what state? Comparable to high settings on PC at 30fps? No draw in, no screen tearing? I wouldn't be surprised one way or another tbh.
As for "fake", what do you mean? *edit* I didn't see your earlier answer.
ethomaz
Banned
I think they had an xbox one demo and they said it was 900P.
Not 100% sure on that though.
Memorabilia
Member
If devs as talented as CDPR are already essentially maxing out both consoles then how much remaining headroom does either console have even with software/driver optimizations?
anexanhume
Member
Speaking seriously, it's been a marketing partnership only and CDPR has held the line on no console exclusives whether they be timed, retailer, etc.
ethomaz
Banned
There is Xbox exclusive items on retail for The Witcher 3.... well at least the LE.
It's actually a timed exclusive.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Well, I can appreciate his frankness.
CyberPunked
Member
What would you have them do? Restrict visuals for a slightly clearer image? That's ridiculous.
Wind's Howling
Member
Lock the game at 20 fps.
vpance
Member
I wonder how much that would cost.
You have a 8GB graphics card?
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
I'll take a stable framerate over 1080p.
SneakyStephan
Banned
damage control failure
witcher 2 runs fine on my hd6870 (ancient budget gpu from 2010 that's only a bit more powerful than an xbox one) as long as I don't use ubersampling (which makes sense as ubersampling is supersampling, which is several times more demanding to use in any game, and not a single console game ever has used it or will use it this generation)
I don't think anyone expects it to run at high framerates at the settings in those trailers/gifs on a hd7850 on pc either, not sure why you'd expect anything different on consoles.
I heard that resolution was on the verge of cancellation before MS stepped in.
DarthWalden
Banned
If Xbox One is 900p then it is unacceptable for PS4 to be not be 1080p. Sony needs to get some engineers to send them a code update.