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[CyberPunked]

Lock the game at 20 fps.

Genius!

 

[LowerLevel]

Still keeping my Xbox One Collector's Edition pre-order... Until I see something official that says anything like "single digit frame rate" and/or "overly excessive screen tearing".

 

[Griss]

Jesus guys, just turn down the settings until you can get 1080p/30fps on the PS4. It's not hard.

As someone without a gaming PC I'm relying on them doing a good job here.

 

[Kazenokatana]

The conspiracy theorists that think their "GodStation 4" was gimped intentionally is hilarious.
Guys. It isn't as strong as you think it is.

 

[mercenar1e]

I'd rather have a few less effects at 1080p.

doing so would make it look like a last gen title lol

 

[Kamina]

900p on PS4 is the lowest acceptable. I'd rather have slightly reduced shaders and weaker AA or shorter fade in of distant items than 720p.

Even on solid gaming pc rigs their games tend to run horribly.

It's their post processing methods.

 

[omonimo]

That still does not make a ACE a similar thing to a SPU. ;-)

On the GPU, (programmed) computations are performed on the CUs, and the ACEs are there to schedule and dispatch workload to the CUs. On Cell, the SPUs might be very roughly comparable to the CUs, since they also perform programmed computations, but the do it much more autonomously. There is no fire-and-forget hardware logic (like the ACEs) to schedule workloads to them. It had to be programmed manually, following one of many possible patterns.

They example is in context of the parallel working method of both. The SPU work is all out about batch your work on each so then when a job is done you don't get batch stalls in the gaps, keep the gaps small and staggered. The logic flow on the cell was crap so to make it work well you had to code with the prediction in your methods.

With GPGPU then the large que of ACE's can reorganise the GPU workload within each cycle meaning if something changes mid job it can que up another to fill the gap.

Layman example but generally how it works.

Thank you for the explanations. Well, ACE could be really helpful in game like The Witcher 3. Hope they will try to use those on the ps4 port.

 

[Xando]

You have a 8GB graphics card?

i think he misunderstood you and meant RAM not VRAM.

 

[semiconscious]

Really? They are 6 month from release.. they are going to work on the optimalization of the game in the next months, so give them time before they can have a clear statement about this sort of things.. jesus..

hey, i could get hit by a car & die tomorrow! i need to know now! ...

 

[OnionPowder]

The Witcher 2 was very graphically intensive. Even with a GTX 570 and Intel i5 3570k, which murders the Xbox One and PS4, I struggled to run it smoothly on very high settings at 1080p.

The Witcher 2 ran smooth for me on my 560ti on high settings. Just gotta turn down the AA and Ubersampling.

 

[vpance]

If devs as talented as CDPR are already essentially maxing out both consoles then how much remaining headroom does either console have even with software/driver optimizations?

Nobody is maxing anything out right now. Wait 3 years or so.

 

[Leafhopper]

lol 2GB?
You need at least 8

Didn't know 8 gig cards were common place.
EDIT: Oh he meant normal RAM. Then yeah.

 

[Sentenza]

Of course it applies. You just proved it. Someone claimed the anims in The Witcher 3 don't look technically impressive, you said animations are artistic only and not reliant on tech

No, I didn't.

I pointed out how tech and hardware can significantly improve animations by making them completely dynamic instead of canned and fixed.

You pointed out something that was both obvious and contextually irrelevant.

Yes, The Witcher 3 does not use dynamic animations. That's probably why some people feel they look "last gen".

No, it's not, it's because they don't like how they look (which is agreeable to some extent, it just doesn't relate to "gens").
Plenty of games that I'm sure you wouldn't criticize for "looking last gen in their animations" don't use dynamically generated animations either.
But I already spoke about this on my previous post, which you probably skipped.

 

[Brannon]

Not surprised, and I was always going to get this for PC at any rate. My W2 choices must thrive!

 

[Gavin996]

If so, then at least res should be 900p, so I can't see the problem. If it's 900p now, they should polish the game until February. And I think even 900p looks great here, hoping there won't be pop-up issues and so.

Yeah I don't see it going below 900p for either console, 1080p is a maybe on PS4 it seems.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

...what deal?

They have some kind of deal with Microsoft. They said that in response to the outrage about exclsuive pre-order stuff for the XboxOne version.

 

[Bundy]

i think he misunderstood you and meant RAM not VRAM.

Shhhhhhht!

Didn't know 8 gig cards were common place.

Seems like you missed the latest news

 

[Mechazawa]

You have a 8GB graphics card?

It's hard to recognize sometimes in threads like these who's making jokes and who's a console user thinking that a game is going to need 8 gigs of VRAM.

 

[TheTwelve]

I could've swore they already said that it was already running 1080p on the PS4 and 900p on the Xbox One.

I read the same thing but there was no confirmed source.

 

[Canis lupus]

Console only gamers should probably count themselves lucky their machines will even be able to run this game at all (let alone run it in HD) and pray there are no further compromises to come down the road.
[[/IMG]

They probably don't, even the 7 year old Xbox 360 could run the Witcher 2 at 720p30. A next gen console will surely run whatever game is coming out ~1 year after its launch. The Xbone footage at E3 looked like Ultra settings, if that's 720p I'm okay with that. PS4 is a beast of a machine, nearly 2TFLOPs of raw power, 8 ACEs, 18 Compute units, 64 Shaders, backed with 8 gigs of GDDR5. With so much potential it's only a matter of optimization whether it hits 1080p or not.

 

[Wind's Howling]

They have some kind of deal with Microsoft. They said that in response to the outrage about exclsuive pre-order stuff for the XboxOne version.

I doubt it will be anything more than just exclusive pre-order content.

The outrage that will commence if Microsoft paid for parity will be fun to watch, though.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I wonder how much that would cost.

Me too lol

 

[Mutagenic]

doing so would make it look like a last gen title lol

I would be ok with it looking like Witcher 2 did on PC considering W3 is an open world. 1080p on my 50" is a must.

 

[Jafku]

Gonna get it on PC.

 

[hydruxo]

Still alot of time left...it's possible they can get to 1080p

 

[Leafhopper]

They have some kind of deal with Microsoft. They said that in response to the outrage about exclsuive pre-order stuff for the XboxOne version.

I hate doing the "Sony Too™" dance but they have plenty of first, preorder and exclusive content to their games as well. I disagree to all of it anyway.

 

[Kamina]

The outrage that will commence if Microsoft paid for parity will be fun to watch, though.

Would be very bad publicity for CDProjectRed.

 

[rafbanaan]

Oh well, I've already preordered it for the pc since I was scared for this.

 

[rokkerkory]

Send in the MS engineers this is unacceptable

 

[anexanhume]

There is Xbox exclusive items on retail for The Witcher 3.... well at least the LE.

Physical items only. I guess that matters to some, but the game content is identical.

 

[Bundy]

Send in the MS engineers this is unacceptable

MS should unlock the hidden GPU in the external power-supply to boost the resolution up to 1080p.
If this isn't enough, they should strip away the Xbone controller. The additional resources allow access to up to 10% additional CPU performance, I've heard.

 

[impact]

Well they better hope they can get it to 1080p on PS4 or else I'll just be waiting on a Steam sale since I haven't beat TW2 and I'll likely have to upgrade my PC to run it nice. Hopefully this isn't just a PR codeword for "we're forcing parity on consoles because MS is nice to us"

 

[DiscoDave]

What would you have them do? Restrict visuals for a slightly clearer image? That's ridiculous.

lol he's caught one.

 

[jett]

I wonder what is this going to run like on my PC. I guess 60fps is out of the question. I got 80~ on TW2, without cinematic DOF.

 

[synce]

Resolutiongate still strong? Enjoy your 1080p slideshow

 

[Ethelwulf]

I'd much much rather prefer ~ 900p at stay 30fps than 1080p with dips.

 

[MMaRsu]

Quick send over the code specialists from Sony and Microsoft to enforce improvements

 

[jacobeid]

I'm going to play on PC anyway because of the save carry over, but I definitely won't be running at high settings on my 7850.

 

[Serra]

They probably don't, even the 7 year old Xbox 360 could run the Witcher 2 at 720p30. A next gen console will surely run whatever game is coming out ~1 year after its launch. The Xbone footage at E3 looked like Ultra settings, if that's 720p I'm okay with that. PS4 is a beast of a machine, nearly 2TFLOPs of raw power, 8 ACEs, 18 Compute units, 64 Shaders, backed with 8 gigs of GDDR5. With so much potential it's only a matter of optimization whether it hits 1080p or not.

I pray that this is not a serious post.

 

[Forsete]

Quick send over the code specialists from Sony and Microsoft to enforce improvements

Sounds like it, yup.

No 1080p, no buy. Until I upgrade my PC at least. But I would really like to play it on PS4.

 

[10k]

I was buying it on PC anyway for the 60fps. This just makes the decision easier. But like I said in the Ryse threads, I can't tell the difference between 900p and 1080p on my tv. It still looks great if the details are there (lighting, shadows, textures, particles, AA, AF, etc)

 

[OdysseusVA]

You have a 8GB graphics card?

Twas a joke

 

[Xando]

Witcher 3 has a partnership with Nvidia for Hair/fur simulation, right?

 

[sublimit]

They have some kind of deal with Microsoft. They said that in response to the outrage about exclsuive pre-order stuff for the XboxOne version.

Really? I guess i missed that. Not that it affects me in any way but i thought they were "above" of such practices.

 

[Caayn]

I pray that this is not a serious post.

Seeing who posted it I fear that it's a serious post.

I'm still laughing at the beast of a machine with almost 2 TFLOPS part. In 2010 yeah but in 2014 no.

 

[Ryoku]

A GTX 570 is absolutely weaker than the GPU in the PS4, probably weaker than the GPU in the XB1 (I forget, tbh). Not that this matters much.

But this isn't even true...
PS4 GPU ~ midpoint between 7850 and 7870. If anything, it's roughly equal to a GTX570.

Might this be the game to push me to buy a second 4GB GTX770? We'll see. After gaming at 1440p/60fps, it's kind of difficult to go back to lower resolutions along with lower IQ.

 

[Stallion Free]

Witcher 3 has a partnership with Nvidia for Hair/fur simulation, right?

Yeah, HBAO+, TXAA, and probably Physx particle stuff too.

 

[ethomaz]

Physical items only. I guess that matters to some, but the game content is identical.

Well I don't think it is wrong or disagree with them... it is fine to me but it is deny what you wrote:

"CDPR has held the line on no console exclusives whether they be timed, retailer, etc."

They have console exclusivity... so it is not true.

Really? I guess i missed that. Not that it affects me in any way but i thought they were "above" of such practices.

They are not... there are exclusive items for XB1 in Limited Edition.

But it is fine... just don't make them different from others devs.

 

[Gavin996]

Really? I guess i missed that. Not that it affects me in any way but i thought they were "above" of such practices.

I doubt CD agreed to any parity clauses or anything, I doubt it affects much really.

 

[MattyG]

I hope my 760 can handle this on high-ish at 1080p. I kind of would have rather played on consoles, but this is going to be PC all the way it seems.