Hmm.. looks like Steam is set to release 12am CET while Gog's is set to 1am CET.
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The Witcher 3 | Review Thread
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Hmm.. looks like Steam is set to release 12am CET while Gog's is set to 1am CET.
Boycott! Pre-order cancelled! Games were a mistake, they're nothing but trash! GamesreleaseGate!
Yeah, but 1am CET was the intention the other day, so the Steam version unlocking at 12am could be a mistake.
Dictator93
Member
LOL LOL
I really don't get all the love for Iorveth's path. Really, the only thing it does better is tell you that Saskia is the dragon. Other than that it's kind of a toss up. And getting on the path is fucking strange. He had almost no redeeming qualities in the first act and Geralt has no reason at all to go with him instead of Roche. Roche helped his ass out a ton. Why betray that? People say it's because Iorveth wants to leave faster and Roche wants you to take out Loredo... well... you still have to do shit for each of them. With Iorveth it's stealing the damned barge, and with Roche it's taking out a fucking bastard.
Then there's the fact that in act 3 you've got to do some freaking weird choices to get the best actual effects. If you want to save Saskia and Triss, you have to go with Phillipa and save Saskia. Why in hell's name Geralt would ever trust Phillipa at that point and even do that instead of going to Triss is well beyond me.
Maybe I missed some stuff, but honestly while he was a slight bit better than Act 1, I didn't think he was really that terribly redeemed in Act 2. He really didn't do a helluva lot, really.
He kills people only because his people are being killed. Its not so black and white.
You don't really know that theres more to do at the time, and jacking a boat and sailing the fuck on is unquestionably quicker in a timeline sort of perspective. I definitely picked Iorveth because I wanted to go after Triss and not dally.
He didn't. She's bound almost that entire time.
Another great thematic reason for picking Iorveth's side. No shits given about Loredo at that point.
CDPR is handling the downgrade scandal with way more directness than it deserves, if you ask me. They're addressing it at all when they totally don't have to. The downgrade argument only matters to the handful of posters in the NeoGAF threads and a few other places around the internet. It all seems way more important that it actually is because that thread is relatively active. It'll all be forgotten about soon after the game's release because The Witcher 3 is obviously a great looking game despite what some dudes on the internet with very little knowledge of the realities of game development say.
Roche's Blue Stripes are well known for their rape, torture, and murder of suspected insurgents and their "sympathizers", IIRC. They're both pretty bad on the atrocities front, for different motivations.
Inkvoterad
Member
Well isn't Roche basically SS? Witcher 2 is one of the few games that really succeeded in blurring the lines between good and bad.
Placing modern ideologies and morals on a medieval world doesnt really work that well. Peaceful demonstration would probably end in mass executions or similar. The northern nobilities are a bunch of greedy shits who don't give a fuck about the good of the people.
Witcher world is brutal, man. Just like ours. (except they have dragons and shit)
He does, but as others have said it's not as simple as him being a terrorist. Iorveth actually has a lot of great lines in the game addressing this exact point. Roche calls him out and Iorveth's like "Would you call me a terrorist?" No one will grant us our freedom, witcher, we must win it for ourselves." Which is true. Killing innocent humans is in no way right, but the Temerian Blue Stripes are just as equal in their brutality. Iorveth says, "Efficient, ruthless, and cruel they're your version of the Scoia'tael...They kill when ordered to without hesitation, of course the same happens to regular soldiers only these special units actually enjoy killing elves."
Iorveth makes a reference to TW1 with another elven leader named Yaevinn. Yaevinn thought of war as poetry whereas Iorveth knows that Yaevinn had "beautiful dreams" but war is not something to be taken lightly and that many of his goals were unrealistic. Iorveth is really complex, I really love siding with him because his character is very well-spoken and there is a trust that builds between he and Geralt by the end.
hobblygobbly
Member
Seems like like twitch streamers will be getting PC codes today? A popular streamer for years on twitch/justin, dansgaming just tweeted that he'll be streaming PC version today. https://twitter.com/Dansgaming/status/599992966506278914
Seems like like twitch streamers will be getting PC codes today? A popular streamer for years on twitch/justin, dansgaming just tweeted that he'll be streaming PC version today. https://twitter.com/Dansgaming/status/599992966506278914
Bullshit, let me play it today too.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Seems like like twitch streamers will be getting PC codes today? A popular streamer for years on twitch/justin, dansgaming just tweeted that he'll be streaming PC version today. https://twitter.com/Dansgaming/status/599992966506278914
Hey CDPR! I'm a streamer!!!
No I'm not. 
cjp
Junior Member
Tesco Direct have 2 games for £80 and a £10 off voucher so each will end up being £35. Got a good range to choose from, only problem is that they do take payment up front...
Check out HUKD for the details
ps3ud0 8)
Huh, that's given me something to think about. So that'd be Witcher 3 and either Uncharted, Battlefront or even maybe ESO for £35 each. Hmmmmmmm.
Thanks!
I am really wary of this game after being burned so bad by DAI. Do we know if the open world is actually interesting in this game? I guess what I am getting at is I can't bring myself to buy this game if it turns out to have a million gather shards/close rifts/pick flowers/nonsense that DAI shat out.
Also gamespot indicated that the combat is really easy, which could get tiresome after 20 hours.
Also gamespot indicated that the combat is really easy, which could get tiresome after 20 hours.
Gareth Bale
Member
Seems like like twitch streamers will be getting PC codes today? A popular streamer for years on twitch/justin, dansgaming just tweeted that he'll be streaming PC version today. https://twitter.com/Dansgaming/status/599992966506278914
Annoys me a bit that they unlock the game for these people, and everyone that paid for it just gets to sit and watch them play
Witcher side quests have thus far been hilarious or interesting. Don't see any indication this has changed.
Also Their highest difficulties (which I doubt most reviewers played on for time constraint purposes) have been traditionally plenty difficult.
Right but this is the first open world Witcher and gamespot of all places said it is easy. Time will tell I suppose.
His Majesty
Banned
They played the game on normal. Later cranked it up to difficult and that solved the problem. So if you are worried about the game being too easy go for hard/very hard.
There's a whole bunch of alchemy ingredients to pick, but you don't have to do any of that. The encounters in the wild have been fun so far. Ran into my first bear while walking from one place to another and I wasn't ready for that at all.
What are you looking for in the open world to make it "actually interesting" though? For me, random encounters like that are enough. For some people they want scripted stuff happening...and there's none of that, at least in the time I've had with it.
Playing on the second highest difficulty the combat has been fine so far. I still get swarmed by Nekkers from time to time, but at least I'm past having any issues with Drowners or wolves lol
This isn't the thread for it so I'm just going to say that I disagree and that if they handled it better we wouldn't even be calling this a scandal. I do agree that its totally meaningless to the greater market. The discussion certainly didn't hurt Watchdog's sales -- it did even better than Ubisoft was expecting. So I'm sure the game is going to be hugely successful regardless. I bet most of the people complaining are still going to buy it anyway.
jacksepticeye
Member
They're basically free advertising for the game, a regular gamer/player is not. They let them play it early so people can see it and hopefully sway those who weren't going to buy it to go pick it up. Do you complain about reviewers getting it early too?
Gareth Bale
Member
Yeah, I mean I understand why they do it. Still a bit annoying though.
bigwinnerx
Member
Don't watch the streamers and this practice stops. Easy.
His Majesty
Banned
How is this a bad practice? More footage of a game is nearly always beneficial for the customer.
MrRoflWaffles
Member
"This practice" is surely just as bad as seeing that review sites have posted footage of and played the game pre-release?
Oh no, Playstation Access posted gamepay of the game before release, and.. they're playing it!! Burn the witch!
Sure Twitch is newer than old gaming blogs from days gone by but that doesn't mean it's inherently evil.
sweet, lend me your copy
JumpJeff84
Member
Looking forward to trying this out on PS4 tomorrow
No, I'd say they brought much of this on themselves with "in-game footage". In-game for a version which will never see the light of day maybe...
Please don't say they weren't partly responsible. That's lying of the highest order.
Well the comparison thread has been locked as I was posting this, hopefully this will be ok in here, otherwise please feel free to remove this post.
Anyway, I've just finished the first prototype of my frame rate analysis system, it's extremely rough right now, but I think it's not too bad in terms of accuracy.
So I use the two clips from the comparison video I did yesterday, and it yielded some pretty interesting results:
This is PS4:
This is X1:
Quick explanation for the last 3 info. Max dupes is the maximum of times a frame was duplicated in the video, the two pace info show how many times (and why) the game deviated from a perfect 29.97 fps. Short pace means a frame was shown immediately after the one before (at 29.97 each frame is supposed to be duplicated once), long pace means that a frame has been duplicated at least twice. Obviously you want these to be as close to 0 zero as possible for the game to look smooth.
So yeah, the X1 version is unlocked, and (at least for me) it leads to very very ugly frame pacing problems, and in the end it looks way less smooth than on PS4.
Anyway, I've just finished the first prototype of my frame rate analysis system, it's extremely rough right now, but I think it's not too bad in terms of accuracy.
So I use the two clips from the comparison video I did yesterday, and it yielded some pretty interesting results:
This is PS4:
This is X1:
Quick explanation for the last 3 info. Max dupes is the maximum of times a frame was duplicated in the video, the two pace info show how many times (and why) the game deviated from a perfect 29.97 fps. Short pace means a frame was shown immediately after the one before (at 29.97 each frame is supposed to be duplicated once), long pace means that a frame has been duplicated at least twice. Obviously you want these to be as close to 0 zero as possible for the game to look smooth.
So yeah, the X1 version is unlocked, and (at least for me) it leads to very very ugly frame pacing problems, and in the end it looks way less smooth than on PS4.
Some german site that messed around with the PC version said AMD cards ran fine, correct? Were there any benchmarks, or was it just some quick impressions? ANY word on how cpu-intensive the game is? I have a 2500k (@4.3ghz) which is listed as the minimum spec CPU; seems a little crazy to me.
Except he has to trust what she's saying. He's possibly trading Triss's life on the word of someone completely untrustworthy.
Denton
Member
2500K is perfectly fine, let alone at 4.3ghz. The requirements are overblown.
MrRoflWaffles
Member
This is super interesting. Have heard (only word of mouth from I don't know where, though) that there have been some discernible differences between PS4 and XB1 frame rates but this helps to explain what's actually going on.
Good stuff.
Are you assuming this, or have reports related to PC performance confirmed as much?
Denton
Member
I think PCGameshardware reported that even underclocking CPU to 2ghz was fine.
I mean the game has to run on 1.6ghz jaguar which has IPC of some ancient desktop CPU.
It is common sense really.
For the record, I have 2500K at 4ghz and do not intend to upgrade it this entire generation, since it destroys the jaguar in consoles.
Wow! And yeah, I guess you're right. Man, the 2500K might be the single best piece of PC hardware I've ever owned.
2500K is one of those rare PC components that sneak out every decade or so that are just too damned good and it causes the companies to shit around for a awhile
ScepticMatt
Member
So if I'm understanding correctly, "max dupes" are when the game drops below 30 fps, correct?
The last one before was Radeon 9800 Pro
EmptySpace
Banned
sorry if i haven't read previous posts, but is that supposed to have the day 1 patch cdpr is talking about, or the patch that the reviewers got? thanks for the info.
Bl@de
Member
Better wait for the PC review versions. According to PCGH it looks different (better LOD etc., screens on their page) and because of that has a slower performance by 15-20%. For a full analysis better wait for benchmarks after release.
Denton
Member
Yes, I did not expect it would last me 8 years when I bought it for 250 bucks four years ago.
But I am not sure if I should be happy about its longevity, or sad about the lack of progress.