He needs a newer tag, that’s from back when the controller name dropped the SS.Came here to see the flock of crows that need to be eaten
I guess dude already got tagged so lol
If they did a disc less Series X at $399, it wouldn’t be a problem. Now next gen will be 4tf focused. Shit state of affairs.I'm guilty of believing this as well. I don't think it was too hard to believe only a month ago that it may have been cancelled or whatever. Things are different though I guess and launches are more akin to those of Apple products. Announcements super close to launch.
Oh not this shit again. The XSS at 1080p probably has more horsepower than both XSX and PS5 at 4k.If they did a disc less Series X at $399, it wouldn’t be a problem. Now next gen will be 4tf focused. Shit state of affairs.
Oh not this shit again. The XSS at 1080p probably has more horsepower than both XSX and PS5 at 4k.
In fact i'll even make a prediciton here, there will be the odd Digital Foundry comparisons where the XSS actually has a slightly more consistent framerate in some games than either XSX or PS5. Only the odd game, but i'll bet it happens.
If it sells like shit everyone will stop supporting it so lets see.If they did a disc less Series X at $399, it wouldn’t be a problem. Now next gen will be 4tf focused. Shit state of affairs.
So you dismiss the idea of XsX becoming a simple upscale machine for games designed around Xss? The old scalability argument from pc.Oh not this shit again. The XSS at 1080p probably has more horsepower than both XSX and PS5 at 4k.
In fact i'll even make a prediciton here, there will be the odd Digital Foundry comparisons where the XSS actually has a slightly more consistent framerate in some games than either XSX or PS5. Only the odd game, but i'll bet it happens.
The S is designed to run XSX game at 1080p, hense why its the same components except weaker gpu, and a bit less ram, as you dont need as much ram for 1080p as you do 4k.So you dismiss the idea of XsX becoming a simple upscale machine for games designed around XsX? The old scalability argument from pc.
I would consider being wrong if we existed in an alternate dimension, but I'm sticking by my guns on this.
I know the answer you're searching for, but I'm not conceding on this non-existent product being any kind of reality to where I would even have to consider the concept of being wrong.
There is a new philosophy focused around deploying gpu power for pixel quality, not just resolution. This is the problem, that approach no longer becomes a focus with a 1080p machine vs a 4k machine.The S is designed to run XSX game at 1080p, hense why its the same components except wealer gpu, and a bit less ram, as you dont need as much ram for 1080p as you do 4k.
Fact is you need roughly 3.5-4x the horsepower for 4k over 1080p, that just the way it is. So XSS at 1080p would have more horepower than XSX and PS5 at 4k, considerably more as well.
People talking about devs targeting the XSS all gen like its a bad thing, well if devs DID do that, you would see the games having dynamic 4k, or even lower resolutions like 1800p and 1620p on XSX and PS5.
No. The multiplatform games will be the same on XSS, XSX, and PS5, with the XSS version being 1080p, and the XSX/PS5 versions being 4k, or close to it.There is a new philosophy focused around deploying gpu power for pixel quality, not just resolution. This is the problem, that approach no longer becomes a focus with a 1080p machine vs a 4k machine.
For example; If you had nothing but an XsX GPU standard, you could focus on a 1440p/60 game with blazing effects, reconstructed to 4k. With a 1080p machine the above becomes a difficult proposition. A dev, where time is key, will simply err on creating a 1080p/60 game for XsS and then simply slapping it onto the XsX leaving it to brute force it to 4k/60 or 1080p/120 as an example. No longer exploring pixel quality achievable by clever use of the 12tf. Doesn’t this sound like a likely -or- at least a possible scenario under the circumstances?
Did you see the Ue5 demo on PS5 being 1440p/30 and the Nvidia marble demo on the 3090 also 1440p/30?No. The multiplatform games will be the same on XSS, XSX, and PS5, with the XSS version being 1080p, and the XSX/PS5 versions being 4k, or close to it.
Tech demo's designed to show off the engine and tech. There arent going to be many next gen games at 1440p, outside of heavily ray traced ones, and even then i wouldnt expect devs to target that low rez on XSX and PS5.Did you see the Ue5 demo on PS5 being 1440p/30 and the Nvidia marble demo on the 3090 also 1440p/30?
The GPU power was not spent on 4k, it was deployed for other reasons than pure resolution.
I really don't get why pc and xbox gamers can't understand this...There is a new philosophy focused around deploying gpu power for pixel quality, not just resolution. This is the problem, that approach no longer becomes a focus with a 1080p machine vs a 4k machine.
For example; If you had nothing but an XsX GPU standard, you could focus on a 1440p/60 game with blazing effects, reconstructed to 4k. With a 1080p machine the above becomes a difficult proposition. A dev, where time is key, will simply err on creating a 1080p/60 game for XsS and then simply slapping it onto the XsX leaving it to brute force it to 4k/60 or 1080p/120 as an example. No longer exploring pixel quality achievable by clever use of the 12tf. Doesn’t this sound like a likely -or- at least a possible scenario under the circumstances?
Ok now like the saint i believeI'm not a series s believer
Something tells me it will age incredibly well and the 99% will be eating unbelievable crow.
Oh not this shit again. The XSS at 1080p probably has more horsepower than both XSX and PS5 at 4k.
In fact i'll even make a prediciton here, there will be the odd Digital Foundry comparisons where the XSS actually has a slightly more consistent framerate in some games than either XSX or PS5. Only the odd game, but i'll bet it happens.
Is official reveal from xbox twitter handle good enough proof for this thread?
Pachter got owned on GAF. If he had to take a temp-ban bet for everything he got wrong, he wouldn't have spent very much time on here.Watch this....
Not sure they carry much credibility. But I’ll give them this one, by a tiny margin.
Not quite.So this thread officially aged badly lol
Something tells me this thread won't age well
Something tells me it will age incredibly well and the 99% will be eating unbelievable crow.
I have OP's meal ready for him.
Not quite.
Now that we know Series S is real, thus answering "does it exist?"...
we still have a second question; "Is it a good idea to launch it"?
THAT, would not be known for a few months yet.