sankt-Antonio
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I hope this is not true, was really looking forward to have some diversity at ps4s launch. If it comes out sometimes next year i'm not even going to bother i guess :/
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TheSameCoin Rumor: DriveClub delayed till 2014
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Guess my sarcasm was too realistic.
Woah, you can click spoilers and they become visible. I aways selected them.
darkside31337
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Well if the date has a SD next to it that is the new street date. Otherwise its basically just a placeholder date.
Fixed1979
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S¡mon;86398360 said:
Unless you really want to fuck with people.
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Game genre diversity is one thing that didn't change here.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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I love all this 'already on PC' talk as if most of the console gamers are PC gamers as well.
All the kids and people at the mall yesterday standing around the PS4 I could tell that very few of them even messed with gaming on PC. Much less knew anything about any indie titles. Sony wants regular people to buy their PS4. Regular people for the most part don't live in the log-into-steam-daily, build their own computers, and get into arguments about nvidia vs amd world that some seem to.
To regular joes, PS4 will have a bunch of affordable, neat little downloadable games on the PSN store to choose from. And if they're not interested, they wouldn't have been interested on PC either.
The moving goal posts is as hilarious as it is baffling. Vita truly had 'no gaems', but PS4 has 'no gaems other platforms don't have', and I can't wait to see what the new excuse is later next year. Because ONE first party title *might* be delayed suddenly none of Sony's lineup exists. And suddenly all previous console launches were chock full of first party exclusives.
All the kids and people at the mall yesterday standing around the PS4 I could tell that very few of them even messed with gaming on PC. Much less knew anything about any indie titles. Sony wants regular people to buy their PS4. Regular people for the most part don't live in the log-into-steam-daily, build their own computers, and get into arguments about nvidia vs amd world that some seem to.
To regular joes, PS4 will have a bunch of affordable, neat little downloadable games on the PSN store to choose from. And if they're not interested, they wouldn't have been interested on PC either.
The moving goal posts is as hilarious as it is baffling. Vita truly had 'no gaems', but PS4 has 'no gaems other platforms don't have', and I can't wait to see what the new excuse is later next year. Because ONE first party title *might* be delayed suddenly none of Sony's lineup exists. And suddenly all previous console launches were chock full of first party exclusives.
The PS3 is profitable for Sony right now. Sony needs to sell games on the PS3, because the PS3 is making them money. It's not at all uncommon for a a platform holder to continue to support their previous console for multiple years after the launch of new hardware. With marquee titles
God of War 2 came out on PS2 5 months after the PS3 launched.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Honestly, I'm guessing nothing will take its place on Plus.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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3 months of PS+ with console would be a better alternative. I'll gladly take that.
Iacobellis
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FUCK!!!!!!!!!!
Knack seems the obvious choice, they are already doing it in Japan. Driveclub was chosen because it was a better fit for their western target audience at launch....but now they don't have anything else in the short term.
Does it make sense to have a street date for something that is scheduled to be released next year? Technically it's always a placeholder
Yeah there's a chance it might be a placeholder, but considering the update was received today....that chance is really low imo.
I don't see that happening. No way they drop the bad news without a replacement offer, imo.
Bad PS3 news finally happened. All that pent up angst between E3 and now released all at once.
Forensic Scene
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Board would explode.
3rdamention
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No, but you have already painted from several angles how bad this news is, then you can't believe when others say they can accept it at this point? It will be better for the game... "the face of the racing genre at PS4 launch" as you put it will now have to be the"face of the racing genre at PS4 launch window."
Maybe it's just not as big a deal for many of us as you want it to be. You can't keep trying to convince users this is a big deal. They have their own opinions about how bad this news is and probably aren't going to change their mind based on your this is how bad it is scenarios.
Hydrargyrus
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Yup.
The lost of DC (psn+ version) is huge, but three free months will be a good compensation
Mr_Antimatter
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I do raise an eyebrow at the 'game delayed, so i'll buy another system' posts, both here and on other sites.
Who buys a console just for launch games? You buy a console for the announced/shown games, with a long term mind share.
If you were really set on a ps4, or an xbox, one title shifting isn't going to make you jump ship. If anything, you just delay your purchase a few months till the title releases.
Who buys a console just for launch games? You buy a console for the announced/shown games, with a long term mind share.
If you were really set on a ps4, or an xbox, one title shifting isn't going to make you jump ship. If anything, you just delay your purchase a few months till the title releases.
TheRealTalker
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I guess. Really though a delay to ensure quality over releasing a halfbaked product is never a bad thing. A Q1 release will also fill the post launch gap as well... so people wanting a ton of titles at launch would still probably complain if that release period lacked any big first party titles. Surely a sprinkling of releases over time is better than blowing one's load at once like what happened with Vita.
sankt-Antonio
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GT6 is on PS3, i hate NFS with a passion, Forza is on another console and this other racer is a open world racer - i hate open world racers.
DC had one purpose, look good to show of the ps4 at launch while not being a shooter. Imo.
Alx
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That's what makes so many people complain "I bought that console for FF VsXIII / the Last Guardian / Agent / GT ..." and complain every month that the games they're expecting is delayed, or disappeared entirely.
People can do what they like, but it seems reasonable to buy a console for games that are available on it. If the games you want release later, then you can buy the console later. Consuming is not gambling, and you have nothing to win if you buy the hardware earlier.
GribbleGrunger
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Have you any idea how juvenile that sounds?
TheJollyCorner
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I love the idea of a more polished DriveClub.
Evolution Studios is excellent, so more time to make a better game is definitely a positive in the long run.
Just as long as Killzone and Minecraft aren't delayed, I'll be fine.
Evolution Studios is excellent, so more time to make a better game is definitely a positive in the long run.
Just as long as Killzone and Minecraft aren't delayed, I'll be fine.
venomous mindset
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Support it yeah that's fine. I'm not saying don't support it but look at the quality of output for the PS3 and the PS4. My point is that it seems like the PS3 was prioritize when it didn't need to be it has it's own momentum it's good. They are launching a new platform. Let third parties carry the PS3 instead of counting on them to carry the PS4.
God of War 2 on the PS2 was a mistake also they don't want another PS3 launch scenario.
fallingdove
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Mr. PlayStation
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0h3gfpHBrM
Can someone here make some gif's of that AMG DriveClub trailer?
Can someone here make some gif's of that AMG DriveClub trailer?
I hope you realise most of the PS3 titles out this year started development long before PS4 kits were even a thing.
venomous mindset
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No offense but you are fucking nuts.
I've been attacked a 1000 times about this. But a serious question, 2 first party launch games for the PS4 a severe 1st party drought on the vita.
If Shu isn't responsible who is? I know he's a cool guy and all. but why do these issues exist when Sony has the biggest and best 1st party in the industry?
I believe this would be your answer. They're slow. Or deliberate. However you want to view it. Rushing games doesn't lead to better games. Just more crappy ones.
SniperHunter
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still no confirmation? WAT? And people attacking Shu? 
Um, the developers?
Look what you did! Lolstill no confirmation? WAT? And people attacking Shu?
venomous mindset
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I do understand that. That's why I think it more of a management issue than the developer issue. Yoshida should have been moving teams over years ago. Sony Japan output this whole generation has been anemic if the developers aren't producing when does management step in?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Who is handling the Minecraft port on the PS4?
Mr_Antimatter
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That is true, however I do still stand on what I said. You don't dismiss a console and jump ship just based on launch game selection. Likewise, you don't buy in anticipation of a game not yet released if there is nothing else you want, I agree with you there. Furture titles can be a major influence though. Just look at how many xbox one folks are buying one for Titanfall or Halo, both a long ways away.
Hence the 'delay until game is available' thing. I've done this a few times myself, mainly with the 360 (GoW, Mass effect) and the ps3.
But unless you are planning on already going multiplatform, no one would seriously change systems based on a launch title slipping. Launch is often dominated by the more hardcore fans, and well, they aren't so easily swayed.
Who do you think is in a big way responsible for the bolded?
One bit of bad ps4 news (which isn't even that bad in the big picture) and it seems a year worth of frustration is coming out of the woodwork.
I think the point is that its stretching it a bit to call it a PS4 exclusive if the game is also on PC. Just because you don't have a gaming PC doesn't make it an exclusive, its not too far off saying that Fifa is a exclusive because most PS4 gamers will not be XBox One gamers as well, its a a very silly thing to say and taken to extremes but its similar to what people are saying. Just because most console gamers don't have a PC doesn't mean you should exclude the PC platform when talking about exclusives.
I think the same thing when MS go on about Titanfall being a XBox exclusive, since its also out on PC as well its stretching the definition of exclusive a bit far, all involved should be told to sit down and think about what they are doing.
Sony have the best second party I would agree, but first party not so much. They seem to rely more on good close connections with other companies that they don't own to get games out of them
SniperHunter
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yea I was expecting an open and shut case. I can't believe Sony still hasn't commented yet.
venomous mindset
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Fair point team building and moral he seems great at. But managing the teams seems suspect. And it's not just the Drive Club news it's the vita situation it's the allocation or resources etc.
P.S. thanks for a decent reply instead of personal attack or a silly gif..
But it's like the xbots god finally answered their prayers...some negative PS4 news!
Woot! lol
Yeah, that seems like a doable option.
Sorc3r3r
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I fully agree.
The vita bit in particular.
Btw N4S now seems a very appealing game...
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And repeating what happened with Motorstorm would be silly, the risk to alienate the fan base by releasing an incomplete game is very real in my opinion.
freakazoid377
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The could always pay a third party developer to move one of their launch titles to Plus. I know it is extremely unlikely and it would not be an exclusive title but it would definitely go along way to alleviate any bad press they get for the delay.
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