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This generation is pretty bad

This generation has the most diverse game catalogues with the best affordability and overall quality of content.

Those afraid of online gaming will always downplay the huge moves we made in the space. That's just denial ... so fuck em and their ignorance.

Also jrpgs have been mostly trash this gen (as they have been since 1998 anyway) Then again, western rpgs are the driving force in the industry comparatively.

From action games, to narrative experiences, to competitive and cooperative gaming... this is the best generation.

Only thing I feel lacking this gen more than last and that prior is that... FUCK OFF WITH OPEN WORLD RACERS ALREADY

The PS4 currently has the best game catalogue ever — and the entire thing is available to everyone.

I feel spoiled. I don't need to run home, wait on a line, or stay up to midnight to play my new favorite game.... I don't need to pay 75$ a year to keep up with street fighter. I don't feel ripped off paying 60$ for a 200hr rpg when shadows of the empire on the n64 cost 95 fuckig dollars.

There's just so to appreciate and play.

And Bloodborne is the best metroidvania since super metroid.

best generation
 
At first I felt that this generation was kind of lackluster and disappointing. I play literally all types of games from AAA to indie from everywhere, but for me Japanese developers really stepped up their games with some really great and unique titles for me. Games like DMC5, Sekiro, RE2 Remake, Bloodborne, Nioh, Street Fighter 5, Dark Souls 3, Gravity Rush 2, Knack 2, Guilty Gear Xrd, DOA6, Tekken 7, Yakuza 0, Yakuza 6, SC6 to name a few made me appreciate this generation more than I did the first few years. Hopefully it keeps up.
 
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SlashBringingHasher said:
agreed. by far the worst. every shit head that thinks thats not the case was either not born to play the great games of the past that were many, and diverse. and filled every niche. or is just a shit head.
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Games fill even more niches now. Never before have we had access to both the quality and quantity of content that we do now. Even smartphones have built up quite the libraries whether you like RPGs, card games, puzzlers. If you want to strictly play older games then chances are there have been new mods or rereleases for them that make them even better.
 
OP, if you can't find a single game you enjoy this gen then I'm sorry it's sucks to be you. This gen has been fantastic for me.
 
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TeamGhobad said:
franchises we got last gen:

Arkham
Mass Effect
Portal
Bioshock
Cod: Modern Warfare
Souls
Gears of War
Uncharted
The Last of Us
Dead Space
Revamped Fallout
Assassins Creed
The Walking Dead
Red Dead Redemption
Dragon Age

and many more..

Franchises we got this gen:

Wolfenstein...
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You changed the wording from games to franchises...

Destiny
Apex Legends
Fortnite
Division
Watch Dogs
Forza Horizon
Horizon Zero Dawn
Spider-man
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Sekiro
Days Gone
Overwatch
Shadow of Mordor
Bloodborne
Rocket League
Dreams
Titanfall
Control
Death Stranding
Niho
Cuphead
The Last Guardian
Knack (haha)
Ghost of Tsushima
 
Bryank75 said:
You changed the wording from games to franchises...
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Bryank75 said:
Destiny
Apex Legends
Fortnite
Division
Watch Dogs
Forza Horizon
Horizon Zero Dawn
Spider-man
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Sekiro
Days Gone
Overwatch
Shadow of Mordor
Bloodborne
Rocket League
Dreams
Titanfall
Control
Death Stranding
Niho
Cuphead
The Last Guardian
Knack (haha)
Ghost of Tsushima
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there are not franchises these are single games and some of them are not even out.
Edit: ya Titanfall is great, watch dogs is mediocre, shadow of mordor was good apparently never played it. but the rest are not franchises.
 
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Sure there's a TON of terrible games, but how is that any different from the past? As if platforms like NES, PSX, Wii and plenty others weren't flooded with total crap output.

You remember those gens from the good games, not the bad ones. And even if you only get 1 great title for every 50 bad ones, that's still more than you can possibly have time to play.

I mean, across thousands of releases across all platforms, even if you can only pick out 50 good games, 50 is still more than I can really pay attention to in an entire generation lol.
 
TeamGhobad said:
but the rest are not franchises.
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How are Destiny and the Division not franchises from this generation but Red Dead and The Last of Us are somehow franchises from the last generation? Admittedly Destiny 1 was cross-gen, but still.
 
AV said:
How are Destiny and the Division not franchises from this generation but Red Dead and The Last of Us are somehow franchises from the last generation? Admittedly Destiny 1 was cross-gen, but still.
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ya those are also franchises but the rest of the list is single games and some are not even out yet.
 
NO

- More games than ever
- Better prices than ever
- VR with increasing quality by the year
- Many platforms to play on



Some of the best games in history are happening NOW. Nier Automata, Zelda BOTW, RDR 2 , GOW, Astro Bot, Forza Horizon 4, Hollow Knight, Bloodborne , Sekiro, TW3, Assassins Creed Origins / Odissey.

And the best is yet to come.
 
My PS4, 3DS, and Switch (though it's technically 9th gen) each have pretty huge libraries.

This gen is basically PS3/360 style games that are actually HD and don't suffer from crippling performance issues, plus 10 times more indies to fill in the gaps. I'm finding plenty of games to play. Don't let the stuff advertised toward the normies sour your interest in the hobby. Go back and play old stuff if you must.
 
I think it's probably the worst gen for triple a games in a while. Particularly western triple a. Despite that it's not an abysmal failure or anything. There's still plenty of games that were stand-out and indie continues to produce a steady stream of worthwhile titles. This gen took longer to gain its footing than usual, I feel. With the Wii U being largely a dud and MS never really getting it together at all.

I appreciated the trends and innovations of last gen more, I can say that much. The rise of cover shooters, crafting and survival games, establishment of the indie scene, return of adventure games and fighters. Compared to this gen where I'm not as excited by VR, battle royale, live service games and the dominance of open world.
 
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there are not franchises these are single games and some of them are not even out.
Edit: ya Titanfall is great, watch dogs is mediocre, shadow of mordor was good apparently never played it. but the rest are not franchises.
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TeamGhobad said:
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there are not franchises these are single games and some of them are not even out.
Edit: ya Titanfall is great, watch dogs is mediocre, shadow of mordor was good apparently never played it. but the rest are not franchises.
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I never cared for Bioshock, Dead Space, Gears, I hate Dragon Age with a passion, ME2 was the only decent Mass Effect and Fallout and everything Bethesda do is boring to me.
But that is just my opinion.
 
Bryank75 said:


I never cared for Bioshock, Dead Space, Gears, I hate Dragon Age with a passion, ME2 was the only decent Mass Effect and Fallout and everything Bethesda do is boring to me.
But that is just my opinion.
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I understand dude, i just feel like the output of quality new IPs that lead into franchises were a lot greater last gen. this is of course just my opinion.
 
Risks are bigger and experimenting comes at a price. The complexity of projects grew exponentially, see Red Dead redemption 2 and many others fore example, making a game of that dimension is just way too expensive and risky. Its natural for companies going with the same "templates" and trying to innovate within those limits. If you want quirkiness and more innovative works just look at the indie or places like itch.io
 
67 replies in I think somebody at this point should explain to you guys that saying "This generation is good, because games x y and z have been released in this generation" is something between a texas sharpshooter and a begging the question logical fallacy. Just saying.
 
Like others said, stay away from this gens sony AAA exclusives. Cinematic gaming 3rd person half-movie motion blur gaming at 30fps with dips, no real online and short in length might have obscured your view of this generation. Those games are hype games that focus on short gameplay, gfx cause that sells. Its like a rollercoaster ride, sit back be thrilled and thats it.
 
Freeman454 said:
Like others said, stay away from this gens sony AAA exclusives. Cinematic gaming 3rd person half-movie motion blur gaming at 30fps with dips, no real online and short in length might have obscured your view of this generation. Those games are hype games that focus on short gameplay, gfx cause that sells. Its like a rollercoaster ride, sit back be thrilled and thats it.
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Nonsense, they have real staying power and absolutely shamed Microsoft and the rest of the competition this generation. You couldn't possibly say that with a straight face unless it was out of pure spite.

GOW alone decimated RDR2 in awards.
Horizon had a massive open world and expansion that could last over 100 hours.
Spider-man 60 hours plus with expansions
Detroit had multiple endings
UC4 had great multiplayer
Bloodborne is like any souls game, so you are only complaining about that because it's a PS exclusive.

I mean, do you just see "Playstation exclusive" and automatically shit on it? Is it kneejerk reaction? I'd understand if you said it was...
 
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Like on some poll here on gaf, most dont even think those sony aaa are the best. PS2 was their best. Some guys on the net might think ps4 is better.
 
I 100% agree with you OP

this generation is by far the worst, games take too long to release, and when they do, they become open world with repetitive and generic quests

online games suck, ever since the start of the generation the only good online games were Titanfall 1, Halo 5, Destiny 1, R6S and Overwatch, the rest is pure trash, unlike last gen where there was a lot of amazing online games that you keep switching to

i've never been disappointed in as many games as i have in this generation, i hope next gen goes back trying to make fun games without trying to be realistic

also, fuck Open world and Battle Royale games.
 
I think people that come here and list 3-4-5 good games and expect me to bow down to their amazing argument need to put that off. how many great franchises were introduced this generation? how many last generation?. let me mention so far the first party developer that has put out the most first party games this generation. Sony. what are the exclusives so far and upcoming?

God of war- third person action adventure
bloodborne- action rpg
Infamous ss- action game
Dreams
Ghos of tushima- third person action adventure
kz shadow fall
horizon zero dawn - third person action adventure
days gone- third person action adventure
spiderman
ratchet ps4 remake
last guardian
the order 1886
knack 1 and 2, eww
death standing- third person action adventure
gts
driveclub
until dawn
gravity rush 2
uncharted 4- third person action adventure
last of us 2 - third person action adventure

what did the ps3 get (aka the worst playstation generation)

Resistance fall of man
resistance 2
resistance 3
killzone 2
killzone 3
ratchet and clank tools of destruction
ratchet and clank into the nexus
ratchet and clank a crack in time.
ratchet and clank all 4 one
ratchet and clank q force
sly cooper thieves in time
3d dot game heroes
folklore
god of war ascension
god of war 3
gt 5
gt6
haze
heavenly sword
uncharted 1
uncharted 2
uncharted 3
infamous
infamous 2
katamari forever
lair
little big planet
little big planet 2
little big planet karting
modnation racers
psabr
MAG
motorstorm
motorstorm apocalypse
motorstorm pacific rift
puppeteer
siren blood curse
socom 4
socom navy seals
starhawk
twisted metal
untold legends dark kingdom
genji days of blade
demon's souls
the last of us
metal gear solid 4


really close libraries right there.

and you can look at the two best batman games ever last gen. we got 3 batman games
this gen. we got 1

we got no GTA this gen.

literally everyone stagnating. everyone. and you're telling me this gen in last. you gotta be shitting me if you really think thats the case.

I dont think activision released a single triple a single player game this gen. EA released a few shitty ones I think and thats about it maybe none. no rayman this gen from ubisoft. 2 last gen. I mean how can I possibly not say its bad?. because of bloodborne. flick off lmao
 
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SlashBringingHasher said:
I think people that come here and list 3-4-5 good games and expect me to bow down to their amazing argument need to put that off. how many great franchises were introduced this generation? how many last generation?. let me mention so far the first party developer that has put out the most first party games this generation. Sony. what are the exclusives so far and upcoming?

God of war- third person action adventure
bloodborne- action rpg
Infamous ss- action game
Dreams
Ghos of tushima- third person action adventure
kz shadow fall
horizon zero dawn - third person action adventure
days gone- third person action adventure
spiderman
ratchet ps4 remake
last guardian
the order 1886
knack 1 and 2, eww
death standing- third person action adventure
gts
driveclub
until dawn
gravity rush 2
uncharted 4- third person action adventure
last of us 2 - third person action adventure

what did the ps3 get (aka the worst playstation generation)

Resistance fall of man
resistance 2
resistance 3
killzone 2
killzone 3
ratchet and clank tools of destruction
ratchet and clank into the nexus
ratchet and clank a crack in time.
ratchet and clank all 4 one
sly cooper thieves in time
3d dot game heroes
folklore
god of war ascension
god of war 3
gt 5
gt6
haze
heavenly sword
uncharted 1
uncharted 2
uncharted 3
infamous
infamous 2
katamari forever
lair
little big planet
little big planet 2
little big planet karting
modnation racers
psabr
MAG
motorstorm
motorstorm apocalypse
motorstorm pacific rift
puppeteer
siren blood curse
socom 4
socom navy seals
starhawk
twisted metal
untold legends dark kingdom
genji days of blade
demon's souls
the last of us
metal gear solid 4


really close libraries right there.
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A lot of the games you list on the PS3 failed, so the obvious result would be more money and time spent on bigger titles. Quality, not quantity. I still have plenty to play....
 
This gen has been for the most part meh for me. I do agree that games have been taking a while to make and that these companies should have adjusted for it. We've had a couple of gems this gen like the ratchet game, dmc5, and horizon zero dawn. There are a few more gems but I haven't finished them. I don't like souls games.
 
Tons of games to play aside, and 80+ games on my ps4. yeah this gen is pretty bad, not as bad as the last one. but still pretty bad. i don't know where to go from there. i'm slowly losing interest in games
 
SlashBringingHasher said:
agreed. by far the worst. every shit head that thinks thats not the case was either not born to play the great games of the past that were many, and diverse. and filled every niche. or is just a shit head.
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38, been gaming since 1984. I can't imagine the era I could go back to and tell myself is better than now without slapping the shit out of my future self.

Gaming is more diverse now than it's ever been. What niche isn't well catered to?
 
Last gen was pretty bad, very bad actually for the Japanese industry who took years to adapt to the technological and creative shift. This time around I'd argue that its several of the big western AAA publishers who have suffered the most, although the blame is very much their own. EA for example has had an atrocious generation where they have repeatedly snatched defeat from the jaws of certain victory!

Especially given how many of the better titles from the PS3/360 gen exist in remastered or enhanced forms this time around, looking back I have surprisingly little reason to revisit.

Being real though, so much is going to depend on your console platform of choice. If I was an Xbox fan, I'd probably take a much dimmer view of this gen.
 
Bryank75 said:
A lot of the games you list on the PS3 failed, so the obvious result would be more money and time spent on bigger titles. Quality, not quantity. I still have plenty to play....
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oh but knack 1 2, and driveclub were? the ratio of good/bad games is relatively the same. there is more quality in the ps3 list than there is in the ps4. don't make arguments that you lose off the bat.

how many 80+ meta games on that ps3 list. and how many on ps4? congrats. you goofed.
 
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I agree but only because im still waiting on 343i to deliver on Halo, i haven't had a go to shooter....other than destiny. I feel like this gen hasn't delivered on the games that are most important for ME. That doesn't mean i think the generation was a failure but Mass Effect not living up to the standards i expect, or Halo really has left a bad taste in my mouth.

I disagree because of the amount of games i've had fun playing this generation.

Sekiro
Dark souls 2-3
Destiny 2
Division 2
Nier automata
Zelda Breath of the wild
Super smash ultimate
MGS phantom pain
Deux ex mankind divided
Overwatch
Sea of thieves

Plus there are games that are out that i have yet to get but want to play.

The last guardian
Travis strikes again
Little nightmares


The generation could've been better but i still enjoyed for what it was. Most of my disappointment is how devs that i followed handled developement , and were talking maybe 2 or 3 developers that i really follow that have disappointed me. Its unfair to judge the entire generation based on how they treated there community or how much they failed to deliver.
 
The gripe I have with this generation is the fact that it seems to have started in 2016 and soon it will be over.

In the beggining there were a lot of remasters and a huge drought, or at least it felt like it. It's good now, but it took a while to get good (in my opinion).
 
Sentenza said:
This makes it sound just as if you like list wars AND have incredibly narrow taste.
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He's also comparing two time periods of different lengths, which is a big deal given games take years to develop. Oh, and of course his PS4 exclusives list completely ignores PSVR.
 
as an industry yes. as a software consumer no.

we got stardew valley and golf story for pete's sake!


also - divinity OS 2?!

I can respect OP's pov though, hes being critical more of the companys and too many cooks/suits in the kitchen and industry as a whole, vs the quality titles that got released.
 
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Bryank75 said:
GOW alone decimated RDR2 in awards.
Horizon had a massive open world and expansion that could last over 100 hours.
Spider-man 60 hours plus with expansions
Detroit had multiple endings
UC4 had great multiplayer
Bloodborne is like any souls game, so you are only complaining about that because it's a PS exclusive.

I mean, do you just see "Playstation exclusive" and automatically shit on it? Is it kneejerk reaction? I'd understand if you said it was...
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Awards, im not talking awards. GoW def is a good game if your into the genre. It otherwise is another rollercoaster ride designed to hype and sell. Cinematic gaming, 3rd person, 30fps, motion blur, and no replay value, relatively short game. Yes it fills all the criteria. Its designed to win awards.
No i dont shit on sony aaa, gow 1/2 where much better, less movie and 60fps, even graphically it was better for its time and in special platform.

Detroit isnt a ps exclusive anymore, along with some others.
UC4 was the least great in the series. Fills all the gow mentioned criteria too, so does horizon.
 
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I think people should focus on the OPs point rather than just shit slinging your favorite game or critical darlings. I feel like this thread is already on the verge of becoming a console/exclusive war
 
This generation is where the catering and pandering to SJW representation in games really went up. That alone, is something that makes this generation worse than the last. We've had companies disrespecting their audience multiple times with these things. Games from the major studios became more about pushing political agendas, rather than making a good game. Many of the bigger games turned out to be disappointments. That just didn't happen to such a degree last gen.
 
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