Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Good old "SNES" gameplay and Arkham Franchise combat do not mix well.
I never understood why they changed her to a teen in the Nick show. She was always an active adult female.
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TMNT: Mutants in Manhattan (Platinum Games) art.
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Good old "SNES" gameplay and Arkham Franchise combat do not mix well.
I never understood why they changed her to a teen in the Nick show. She was always an active adult female.
PadWarrior
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Well this is disappointing for me 
Agreed. But I will admit: I love 2K3's Triceraton arc much more than Mirage's. It's perhaps the one instance where I think not killing off a character who originally bit it in the comic was perhaps the right choice.True, the 2k3 cartoon took most of the stories from the Mirage comics and stone washed them to make them more palatable for Saturday morning cartoon viewers.
For what it's worth, at least they tried, and Raphael truly shone in that cartoon.
The first season of the 2k3 cartoon has a special place in my heart, for being full of potential and promise (and I think the animation was awesome then).
Afterwards, things sometimes dragged on for too long (Karai being conflicted) or just not as well executed as it could've been (Leo being emo and angsty).
However, having played and finished all three main TMNT games based on the 2k3 cartoon on PS2, I can't wait to see Platinum Games' output. It can't be any worse than those.
On that note...hope this IDW game incorporates Zog!
Also...you're THAT MNTG Tigerfog, aren't you? Respect~!
Wouldn't know what Nick has been doing otherwise, as the TMNT show was the main reason I was tuning in. Now that I can't stand that cartoon anymore, the only reason I tune into a Nick channel is for 2K3 re-runs~!
Anyway, to be fair: the only time the Fred Wolf toon at all came close to being "serious" was by the Red Sky seasons (which is still YMMV, at best). But by then, I'm sure it's safe to say most self-proclaimed fans of the 80s toon had long since stopped watching~!
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I stopped watching after Season 2, didn't really enjoy the forced toyetic crap they were pulling with, and the toyetic designs the character have.
And I'd argue that the problem with the Red Sky seasons is that it came too late and felt forced.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Day 1. This will be fantastic if Transformers is anything to go by.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Yeah, I can see this as a Platinum game.
Those are Mateus Santolouco's older turtle designs?
I guess he was hired to mimic Ross Cambells designs. Because the new stuff looks a lot like Campbell's stuff
And anybody who disagrees should sit through the "European Vacation" episodes~!
MisterHero
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Shitty, cynical attempt and actual attempt are two different things and you should probably know better. Fanservice done right can be a great thing. MMPR had Forever Red and it's sad that Megaforce couldn't follow up on that.
It's probably Europe's fault 80s TMNT was as goofy as it was- they were afraid of nunchuks for some reason.
And even then, being "badass" wasn't even the point. They're fun characters to sell merchandise with. Somehow I think a goofy, off-the-wall TMNT has more mainstream appeal than trying to do the comics justice.
Granted, maybe Activision wants a more "mature" TMNT game. They can try I suppose. At least they're not using the new movies for inspiration!
IT sure does! That's why the current TV run has like three games already!
someguyinahat
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Donatello no longer has a gap tooth? I'm on board.
Activision needed to try something different. Their recent games based off of the Nicktoon and the 2014 movie (not to mention "Out of the Shadows") all have the stench of shovelware on them, and were largely panned critically and commercially.
A Platinum-made game using the IDW Turtles was the closest thing to a "clean slate" that they were going to get.
But without that cartoon only you and like 25 other people on this planet would even care about TMNT...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's the problem - it's a narrow view of the characters. Just because they're "mutant turtles" doesn't mean you can't give them proper storylines or such. Yeah sure it appealed to the mainstream, but that doesn't mean it should be the only way to do it.
Kagoshima_Luke
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Looks like the original comic style, only made chibi, pouty, agnsty and overall way worse. Should have just kept to the original or went with 80s cheeseball cartoon.
No idea how they can keep fucking this up.
KoopaTheCasual
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Count me in as someone who doesn't really care for 80s turtle and can't see their "obvious" superiority as some put it, outside of nostalgia.
This design looks dope. I'm widdit, Platinum.
This design looks dope. I'm widdit, Platinum.
That's okay.
eyeball_kid
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Looks like all the turtles got nose jobs. I read the B&W Mirage comics as a kid, so I've been constantly disappointed in this IP since they turned it into a Hanna-Barbara cartoon. The one bright point is that Platinum is doing it, so the gameplay could be pretty great.
I'm still waiting for someone make a TMNT RPG based on the cool pen & paper game:
I'm still waiting for someone make a TMNT RPG based on the cool pen & paper game:
Without old Dragonlance novels, I wouldn't have found George RR Martin, Joe Abercrombie, and Stephen Donaldson. That doesn't make the dragonlance novels any good.
Still love Raistlin, though.
Transformers Devastation.
Man, guys, I love campy shit, but the 80s cartoon is baaaaaad. I have a great amount of nostalgia for it, but good lord it is baaaaaaaaaaaad.
If you want to cite good examples of campy TMNT, look at the original movies. Those are way way better than the cartoon. Somehow, despite being infinitely more serious in tone than the cartoon, they still maintain that good ol' cheese. And they aren't repulsive. Well, ymmv, but they're definitely better.
Watching the 80s cartoon today, as a human being that's actually experienced good quality entertainment, is very unpleasant...
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The IDW shit is indeed good, though. Color me interested. Hope they can do it justice.
If you want to cite good examples of campy TMNT, look at the original movies. Those are way way better than the cartoon. Somehow, despite being infinitely more serious in tone than the cartoon, they still maintain that good ol' cheese. And they aren't repulsive. Well, ymmv, but they're definitely better.
Watching the 80s cartoon today, as a human being that's actually experienced good quality entertainment, is very unpleasant...
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The IDW shit is indeed good, though. Color me interested. Hope they can do it justice.
That'll be fine with me.
Kagoshima_Luke
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And without the Adam West Batman show, it's likely people wouldn't have cared about Batman, either.
Thankfully, Tim Burton, Bruce Timm and others actually believed that they could salvage the character from being the running gag he had been for almost two decades.
MisterHero
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Now most, if not ALL modern Batman fans today mostly relate or started with TAS -- a respectable cartoon that captured the thematics of Batman perfectly!
That aint ma turtlez man,
dey ma turtlez!
Still better than the 80s turtles.
baddvision
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like the art style, hope to see some gameplay soon
My preference is the cute faced turtles. Like these:
But I'm not that into TMNT so it's probably not in line with what real fans want.
I feel these are the turtles most of know
Speak for yourself. I think it's dope as hell.
HP_Wuvcraft
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That aint ma turtlez man,
dey ma turtlez!
I never noticed Raph's dudebro sunglasses before.
Nope, it's the 2012 incarnation now.
MisterHero
Super Member
Truly, the next mutation of TMNT movies.That aint ma turtlez man,
dey ma turtlez!
Arguable, but that's besides the point. If the "25 or so" people who read and appreciated comics didn't matter at all, there wouldn't have been anything for the likes of Tim Burton and Sam Hamm to get the ball rolling with.
Yep. The closest TMNT has gotten to that in a cartoon was 2K3's first five seasons. But again, that was somewhat reviled, for previously stated reasons.
You realize the original comics were a big deal that sold out really fast and had high resale values, right? It's the original comics that started the craze; the cartoon just kicked it up a notch.
I was big on the cartoon back in the day but I was also in 7th grade when it was on; even then I preferred the original comics I got to read as graphic novel reprints.
I haven't kept up with the later series but the original Eastman/Laird stuff is just so much better than the cartoon or the live action movies... If you've never read the climactic Shredder returns to NY during the Xmas season story, you are missing out, it's amazing.
Gipsy Danger
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So happy it's the IDW designs. Smh at people who want the atrocious 80s cartoon turtles.
Host Samurai
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Was hoping for an 80's TMNT for a great throwback with aesthetics and voice overs, but can't complain since it's based off IDW because it seems awesome. It has most of the 80's characters and doesn't have that Utrom Shredder. IDW really has it all. Hun, Testu, Krang, Beebp, Rocksteady and most of the 80's crew.
Speaking of Batman,
I just want my TMNT developed by Rocksteady Studios!!!
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