PanSexual_Peacock
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I mean, I wasn't really defending BvS. Just thought you made a mistake. Your point still stands.
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Today in DCEU: Affleck reportedly wants out as Batman
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I mean, I wasn't really defending BvS. Just thought you made a mistake. Your point still stands.
Discotheque
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if Matt Reeves signs on for Batman why would he even want to leave. dude is gonna salvage a DCEU project into being one of the better blockbusters out there if WB lets him do his thing.
Imperfected
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That's a pretty big "if". They don't seem like the "hands-off" type.
I need the "Do it for her" picture but instead of Maggie it's pictures of people named Martha.
The Strokes
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=deadpool2016.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2015.htm
nope.
though I get why BvS didn't make a billion. it's mean spirited and self-serious and not for the family crowd, I appreciated what they were doing but could tell right away as I was watching that this was gonna tank with family audiences. and not due to quality (or lack of many would say).
this is gonna sound fucked buI'd rather let a kid watch deadpool (gotta censor the dirty sex jokes tho lol) than BvS. and one is rated Pg-13.
but then i loved robocop when i grew up so i'm also a hypocrite
The Dark Knight made a billion dollars, no 3D required and it's exactly how you describe BvS.
Also sorry, I mean Deadpool outgrossed BvS in the US.
Edit: for the record in case I'm coming as a complete douche DC hater (which I'm not), I think Deadpool sucks too.
Discotheque
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with DCEU, sure. outside of that though the studio has been pretty damn fantastic. but that's besides the point since we're talking about DCEU. with those movies who knows. i'm just hoping they back off the dude though. Dawn of the Apes was great. War of the Apes may end up being the best big summer movie too.
would be so stupid of them to get in his way.
no need to explain yourself brah. also I get what you mean with TDK comparison but even that had underlying hope to it. BvS was basically "All your heroes are shit: the movie"
plus TDK was just....god damn. the hype was real. for superhero movies there hasn't been a remotely comparable theater experience since for me. a long drawn out Zack Snyder movie shouldn't be expected to get that kind of repeat audience. even with superman in it too.
This is probably exactly what the guys on reddits DCEU sub are saying. Those guys will rationalise anything.
Razgriz-Specter
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I agree.
Joker was dark and especially Two-Face but the movie still felt good most of the time.
Bad stuff was happening but it moved on quickly other than Rachel's death lingering.
Even Rises which is shit on by the Internet was one of the best movie experiences ever,
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=deadpool2016.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2015.htm
nope.
though I get why BvS didn't make a billion. it's mean spirited and self-serious and not for the family crowd, I appreciated what they were doing but could tell right away as I was watching that this was gonna tank with family audiences. and not due to quality (or lack of many would say).
this is gonna sound fucked buI'd rather let a kid watch deadpool (gotta censor the dirty sex jokes tho lol) than BvS. and one is rated Pg-13.
but then i loved robocop when i grew up so i'm also a hypocrite
It's also a great way to teach kids about pegging.
DecoReturns
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The TDK also had a ton of Oscar hype if I remember. Some were saying Best Picture potential and Oscar for Heath.
Your right. The hype was unreal for that movie. People couldn't stop talking about it.
Tell me, do you bleed money?
But yeah this will be like the death knell for the DCEU if it comes to pass, at least for me. Batfleck is the only thing holding my interest at this point.
In all honesty, The Dark Knight Rises also grossed over a billion, which is arguably the lesser film. The difference is, The Dark Knight was helped by being directed by Christopher Nolan, the man who brought you Batman Begins. The Dark Knight Rises rode that "conclusion to the trilogy" and directed by Christopher Nolan.
Batman v Superman does not have that.
The Strokes
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Guys come on, I get that TDK was hype, but this movie had BOTH Batman and Superman.
Does that mean something nowadays?
This was the dream, the movie to end all superhero movies. This sould've competed with Avatar and Titanic in terms of gross.
Does that mean something nowadays?
This was the dream, the movie to end all superhero movies. This sould've competed with Avatar and Titanic in terms of gross.Razgriz-Specter
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Not when it was a Superman a majority of people felt meh about at first and less so afterwards.
Guys come on, I get that TDK was hype, but this movie had BOTH Batman and Superman.
Does that mean something nowadays?
I think the inclusion of Batman and Superman was the reason this movie made as much as it did. Had it been about two unknown, newly invented superheroes, it would've bombed hard.
echoshifting
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Guys come on, I get that TDK was hype, but this movie had BOTH Batman and Superman.
Does that mean something nowadays?
The problem is Zack Snyder had already delivered a Superman that had alienated (sorry) a lot of fans
The opposite was true for Nolan/TDK
Edit: In fact if it had just been a Batman movie I bet it would have been more successful critically and financially
WhateverItTakes
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Lol, of WB had one job here it was keep Ben sweet, he was the only legitimate diamond in the whole project.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Guys come on, I get that TDK was hype, but this movie had BOTH Batman and Superman.
Does that mean something nowadays?
That was never going to happen. Batman and especially Superman are perceived very differently overseas than they are in America. Look at the worldwide grosses of the Superman films. BvS could and should have made a billion for sure but it was never going to come close to Avatar, Titanic and even Avengers.
autumnleaf
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Just start again and do it properly.
When your second appearance of Superman is doing the Death of Superman and your first appearance of Batman is already after Joker has killed Robin something is messed up. It's skipping so many amazing stories you could tell just to do the dark and gritty and depressing stuff before anyone is even invested in the universe.
When your second appearance of Superman is doing the Death of Superman and your first appearance of Batman is already after Joker has killed Robin something is messed up. It's skipping so many amazing stories you could tell just to do the dark and gritty and depressing stuff before anyone is even invested in the universe.
True Savior
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DCEU getting right on track. WB can change whatever the hell they want but that will never make Affleck a good actor. Getting rid of him is a logical restart.
Discotheque
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they should give Jon Hamm HGH and throw him in if somehow Ben leaves. there were times when Affleck's Wayne reminded me a bit of don draper anyways. might as well go to the OG himself.
Revolutionary
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I mean, on the one hand I have been wanting this to happen the moment he was announced as the next Batman, but on the other, he's pretty much the only remotely decent thing going on in the DCEU so.. I don't know. Sucks for DC and WB, I guess.
PhantomX1313
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Lol this probably the worst way to throw bait article where author himself tell beforehand not to trust him.
Yep. I can't help but feel that Zack Snyder fooled WB into green-lighting into a movie the comics he loves as a kid rather than you know a proper setup movie for the DCEU. And he actually crammed them into just one movie, for crying out loud!
Kickstarting your cinematic universe on the back of end-of-line stories like Death of Superman and TDKR is just NOT going to work because those stories require character familiarity to be effective. You'll miss tons of potential cool stories to explore like how did Batfleck get so cranky or how much did Clark's secret identity affect his work and relationship to Lois.
BvS is such a wasted opportunity
Razgriz-Specter
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Pretty much.
MOS was meh,
half of BvS is absolute garbage.
Suicide Squad course-corrected from BvS into a disaster itself.
Hot Coldman
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replace him with Shane McMahon
Will Smith is fine, and Micheal Shannon is maybe the best actor working today, but was severely underused.
Doctor Ironic
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"Men are still good.
We fight. We kill. We betray one another.
But we can rebuild. We can do better. We will. We have to."
Understandable. The films are poor thus far, the critical response horrid and he'd clearly rather be receiving rave reviews and critical respect.
Given he's just ahead a directorial misfire he would be best served away from anything likely to be regarded as poor and delivering a return to form. Clearly current indications show that's not best served being in another critically panned DC comic book film.
Given he's just ahead a directorial misfire he would be best served away from anything likely to be regarded as poor and delivering a return to form. Clearly current indications show that's not best served being in another critically panned DC comic book film.
Breakfast at Noon
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Sounds like someone just watched the final cut of Justice League.
He should play Alfred. Especially after the how the Lego Batman movie referenced that era.
I actually don't think shannon was underused.
PhantomZone
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I want this to happen, I NEED this to happen. Couldn't stand Affleck in the role.
Srey Plaughtered
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Shame if true. Batfleck is the only good part of DCEU.
Sad Affleck
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God damn it no, Affleck was awesome as Batman! Time for an avatar change.
I've not seen it but I don't think Batman should be holding a big gun in key artwork.
SaniOYOYOY
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will have higher rating on rt compared to all DCEU movies lol...(does RT rate documentaries?)
anyone from deadpool so he goes full meta together with Ryan.
I can see the resemblance...
Joke post, right? Batman is a ninja. Batfleck is a thug. Just look at this picture:
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It's fucking awful. Strap a gas mask to his face and let's all stop pretending.
MarkMclovin
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Thanks Snyder.
You fucked it.
You fucked it.
Already Torn
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I like how even that scene is at night
Joke post, right? Batman is a ninja. Batfleck is a thug. Just look at this picture:
I mean, I don't entirely disagree with the physique aspect but the first time you see Batfleck in BvS he's hanging on the ceiling in the dark and then doing ninja wall-running shit to avoid getting shotgunned to death by that jittery cop. (also yeah the guy you quoted was joke posting).
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