Shit, you could argue MCU was jumping the gun in this regard with IM2, the movie was way too far up its own avenger-spreckled-ass to be much more than okayish. IM 1 and 3had none of that and were much better for it. Too bad WB did not see the lessons learned from that.I will fight you
All other Phase 1 movies managed to relegate universe-building to easter eggs, Coulson cameoes and postcredits scenes.
Well when you say "all other phase 1 movies," you're only talking about two movies, unless you're counting Incredible Hulk. Cap did a good job with it, true, but Thor had a totally gratuitous Hawkeye intro where he doesn't even really interact with Thor or have a role in the story.
I appreciated the effort here
Although Marvel did go on to do the whole Thor-takes-a-bath-in-vision-pool thing in AoU, so even they hadn't completely learned.
You guys remember this? Kill the Snyderverse, do a Fourth TDK film while figuring things out for a future DCEU?
"My understanding is that this is the last one. I think it's appropriate, I think it's going out at the right time," he said. "But...if Chris came to me with a script and said, 'You know what? There is another story' then I would love the challenge of making a fourth one work."
http://www.mtv.com/news/2600453/christian-bale-batman-4/
The fire rises.
Didn't Nolan suggest Snyder to head the DCEU?Alright WB back the brinks trucks upto the Nolan estate and beg for his services
DO IT NOW FOOLS
Didn't Nolan suggest Snyder to head the DCEU?
Didn't Nolan suggest Snyder to head the DCEU?
Just read the first page and the source seemed questionable. 17 pages later tho, I'm guess it's legit?
Also who could he play in the mcu?
Do the right thing and hire Jon Hamm as his replacement
On the real, between TDKR's massive drop in quality from the first two AND suggesting Snyder to spearhead a Superman reboot, Nolan is a pretty mixed bag
He'll direct the Daredevil movie based on the Netflix show.
Just replace him with Negan from Walking Dead. Dude's got a great look for Batman.
You people already begging for Nolan to come back? Pfft, he don't care.
I think we would take Richard Donner at this point.
Pitof is available.
WHen should the first JL trailer/teaser hit?
Walk away with your head high and go win another Oscar making a film you love.
Fuck no. Must Be joking
Zack Snyder better make the Snyderest (coolest) Justice League film imaginable if he's to counter the deflating hype over the universe, and with this news, provided it transpires, will definitely crush WW and JL's hype even more. I want him to be our lord and savior, with people looking up to him and saying 'SAVE US!' and with him looking down and whispering 'eat my dick!'. I want JL to be 80+ % on RT and make a billion. I WANT IT!
I'm watching today's Collider Movie News video on YouTube and so far he hasn't even brought it up... I don't think he's going to. What a twat.Well, any hope Campea had of this ever going away just fucking died:
Vulture's thinkpiece/thumbsucker on how Affleck taking a hike would be good for WB because it forces their hand into blowing up and starting fresh.
(bonus points to Betty for the opening graf containing a link to Sad Affleck.)
Not only built off the back of Campea's reluctant scoop, but specifically citing him by name. So this is now a story, which means at some point someone's going to push WB or Affleck's PR to deny this officially. Of course, even denying will give the story a little extra shine, which is just more bad vibes around an already damaged universe.
Same here man!I love the Dark Knight Rises and would be happy with a 4th Batman movie of that quality.
I'm watching today's Collider Movie News video on YouTube and so far he hasn't even brought it up... I don't think he's going to. What a twat.
That's what happened with the Flash directors and the 1st Wonder Woman director, so anything can happen here.I could definitely see him leaving due to creative differences.
Origin movies first, Justice League second.
It's all about making a continuity for the larger audience and making us like the characters behind the heroes. When I watched Superman Returns I didn't care AT ALL about this guy claiming to be Superman. Who is this? He came out of nowhere. I don't care about him. Ben Affleck's Batman came out of nowhere. I never saw him before, I don't know him, his motivations, what happened to him in this universe. I just don't care hence why I don't care about the movie either.No.
You don't have to do it that way.
Origin movies are largely boring
Origin stories are largely boring.
Everyone in the world knows what the fuck a superhero is. You don't need to explain the concept to us for 80 minutes first. Much less build a whole movie around the superhero NOT being a superhero only to tell us he'll finally be the superhero we wanna watch in the second movie.
Just start at the second movie.
This shit isn't hard. Nobody's going to get lost if there's a Superman movie where Superman is just Superman at the beginning. Nobody's going to be hopelessly confused by a Batman movie where Batman's just Batman.
Yikes, even if it's true I'm sure WB was hoping to gag it before Justice League (or even Wonder Woman for that matter) comes out. The news will have a serious box office impact on those films. That being said, if the rumour really is spreading like wildfire, they sure weren't very careful keeping it hidden.Well, any hope Campea had of this ever going away just fucking died:
Vulture's thinkpiece/thumbsucker on how Affleck taking a hike would be good for WB because it forces their hand into blowing up and starting fresh.
(bonus points to Betty for the opening graf containing a link to Sad Affleck.)
Not only built off the back of Campea's reluctant scoop, but specifically citing him by name. So this is now a story, which means at some point someone's going to push WB or Affleck's PR to deny this officially. Of course, even denying will give the story a little extra shine, which is just more bad vibes around an already damaged universe.
No.
You don't have to do it that way.
Origin movies are largely boring
Origin stories are largely boring.
Everyone in the world knows what the fuck a superhero is. You don't need to explain the concept to us for 80 minutes first. Much less build a whole movie around the superhero NOT being a superhero only to tell us he'll finally be the superhero we wanna watch in the second movie.
Just start at the second movie.
This shit isn't hard. Nobody's going to get lost if there's a Superman movie where Superman is just Superman at the beginning. Nobody's going to be hopelessly confused by a Batman movie where Batman's just Batman.
Making Origins movies are a must for making us relate to the characters.
Yeah I'm gunna say if you feel like you need an origin story for the purpose of relating to the audience, you're doing something wrong. Not to say you can't make an origin story that's relatable and/or effective, but it's not necessary.Bullshit.
You can relate to characters just fine without watching 80 minutes of them struggling to figure out how to incorporate their powers into their life.
Most people fall in love with these superheroes without knowing shit about their origins.
People talk about these characters like it's hard to like them without the proper knowledge going into it. Most of us managed it just fine at age 4 without a handy guide stepping us through the rote checklist on the way to superhero status.
If the writers and directors can't get you to like Superman within five minutes of Superman being onscreen, that's their bad. Doesn't matter where in his life the story is happening.