I've never played a Gears game, but she looks more like the damsel that creates distress to me, haha.
What? No.
Metroid
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Supe Metroid
Another good point. Shanoa isn't sexualized at all. She's definitely stylish and beautiful, but that's just expected in videogames. To the best of my knowledge, there's no such thing as an ugly protagonist.
In case people have never seen Alien during the last portion of the movie Ripley takes off her clothes to go down in her underwear to prepare for space sleep. Just because she happens to take off her clothes, which both men and women do, that's somehow fanservice? .
Another good point. Shanoa isn't sexualized at all. She's definitely stylish and beautiful, but that's just expected in videogames. To the best of my knowledge, there's no such thing as an ugly protagonist.
The nurse from Skullgirls is kind of annoying, too. It's a cartoony game with an all-female cast. Some of those females are derranged, some are sexy. Does she not want any sexualization of women in games at all? That is not a world I want to live in. Give me games filled with sexy men and women all day long. Give me this:
Sexualizing everyone isn't the solution, though I figure you are joking.
If anything, she'll take issue with her portrayal in the first two games. I thought the women were handled fairly well in Gears of War 3.
No, this isn't sexist at all. It's not sexist to look at an attractive person and be so enthralled by his or her looks that you aren't paying attention to what is being said. It wasn't sexist when I stared off in space at my attractive teachers in high school, and it wasn't sexist when my female classmates did it to professors in college. This is simply not what sexism is.
None of this is a problem for me, so I don't need a solution. If people want to make Dead or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball games, I don't care. If people want to make games filled with fully clothed women detectives searching for clues to solve a murder mystery, I don't care. The closest thing to a problem for me is the need some people have to "shame" the aesthetic choices others make in their character designs. I don't have a problem with games that have all sexy people in them, and I don't have a problem with games that have no sexy characters in them.
I think the people who say this aren't using it as a defense against the claims, but more of an attack upon the person. I take it more as a "Why do you only talk about women, why aren't you complaining about ripped men in games?", and not a "We have ripped men, so toothpicks with boobs are okay."
It's called objectification, and women are guilty of it too.
Congratulations.
I don't have a problem with objectifying people. Most of the people I know are just means to an end. Things that serve a role so that I can achieve a goal. Most people who have a job work the same way, even if they don't like to think of it that way. Take a basic example of a store employee who helps you out when you ask. Rarely does such a person really give a damn about helping you. Rather, the person is using you as a tool to obtain praise and advancement in the work place (or avoid harassment). If he had to push the right button on a computer to do it, it would be all the same. Sexual objectification is just another type - I don't see any reason to single it out as being particularly horrendous.
It might be what you are thinking about, but it is certainly not what you posted about:
My sister loves GoW, along Heavy Rain is the only things I've ever seen her play. Maybe the lead characters did physically appeal to her, not that im gonna ask.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/
I'm not well versed in feminist literature, so I can't really take it any farther than that.
That's all well and good, but I'm not sure why you quoted it to me, since it coincides with my general definition of objectification, and I agree with Nussbaum that it's not necessarily bad.
I was just providing a source explaining why it is seen as a bad thing. *shrug*
But your source doesn't explain why it's a bad thing. It just provides definitions and a history of how objectification is thought of, along with Nussbaum (who is a very bright woman) saying that it's not necessarily a bad thing. My wife has an anthropology degree, and I've been through a lot of readings as well as a few courses on feminism. I'm also surrounded by feminist theorists. I'm not ignorant, I just don't agree.
Gender and race discussion are terrible everywhere unless you're agreeing with someone, if you follow me. ;-)
It's not all bad, Steve Youngblood made some very good posts in the rape culture thread.
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_/¯ Seriously, your example of Ripley undressing is not the same thing. Also mentioning shirtless men was just silly. Men are not usually shirtless in video games for the titillation of women.People are more than just mere objects. We are very sophisticated biological machines. You know more than I do, so I can't really go toe-to-toe with you.
An honest one. Don't pretend for a minute that when you go into a job interview, it's not about convincing the person on the other end to hire you so that you can make financial ends meet. You're not thinking of them as a person, you think of them as a thing to be figured out so that you can say the right thing and get the job. You want to push the right buttons and get the gold.
What's the name of this person that hurt you so bad you're dead inside?
Those are not mutually exclusive. If you are going to be working directly under that person, I would think it best to think of them as more than just something that dispenses cash. You are oversimplifying things.
Ïf im nice to my mom starting from October i might get a more expensive christmas gift. Brilliant!
That's not saying much.
They shouldn't be, since they're in tandem with one another. There's a double negative in the first sentence that might be misleading you.
I'm not dead inside. I'm married and love my wife deeply. My parents, gracious people they are, are traveling 6 hours to come to my graduation ceremony this weekend. I have emotionally deep relationships with a few people outside of my family, but they are rare by choice. I cried two days ago. I laughed heartily today. Stop thinking you know anything about me because you read a few forum posts I made and want to fit me into something you saw in a movie.
Whatever floats your boat.
