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Trouble Witches NEO! (Cute 'em Up? | SNKP | XBLA | 800 MSP | This Winter)
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12 hours since the game was released for Download, and it's still unbuyable.
My goodness, 2002 UM came out on a friday and had purchase errors. Samsho2 was reported to have a lower price until hours before it released. And now this. What kinda communication does MS JP have with SNKP?!?
Such a sad thing to occur on a day with 2 other very fun games released at the same time. It'd stand to reason it'd make the company lose some potential sales when there's no other competition that same week, but on a rare 3 game Wed, were ALL three are actuall good, action-filled games? Oy.
My goodness, 2002 UM came out on a friday and had purchase errors. Samsho2 was reported to have a lower price until hours before it released. And now this. What kinda communication does MS JP have with SNKP?!?
Such a sad thing to occur on a day with 2 other very fun games released at the same time. It'd stand to reason it'd make the company lose some potential sales when there's no other competition that same week, but on a rare 3 game Wed, were ALL three are actuall good, action-filled games? Oy.
i got points, but i got no game!
the graphics are great. the einglish voices are... odd. its funny andd cute. controls well.
i had some problems seeing some of the bullets, but i might have been sitting way to close to a large tv.
game seems like fun though. pretty sure im going to buy it when its available.
the graphics are great. the einglish voices are... odd. its funny andd cute. controls well.
i had some problems seeing some of the bullets, but i might have been sitting way to close to a large tv.
game seems like fun though. pretty sure im going to buy it when its available.
iconoclast
Member
Kandrick said:
Yep, just bought it. Victoly!
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Just bought it as well.
I dunno what my schedule is like but if anyone wants to give coop a shot you can shoot me over at GT: PepsimanVsJoe
I like the game, it's fun. Scoring system and all that is kind of whatever at this point as I'm just flying around, absorbing everything, and trying to score some points. I'm sure I'll go through multiple times to check out all the modes, difficulties, and stories for every character. First character I chose teased a nude-scene in the ending...I'm just going to pretend everyone is over 18.
The voice-acting is amazing, this is totally Castle of Shikigami 2 level.
I dunno what my schedule is like but if anyone wants to give coop a shot you can shoot me over at GT: PepsimanVsJoe
I like the game, it's fun. Scoring system and all that is kind of whatever at this point as I'm just flying around, absorbing everything, and trying to score some points. I'm sure I'll go through multiple times to check out all the modes, difficulties, and stories for every character. First character I chose teased a nude-scene in the ending...I'm just going to pretend everyone is over 18.
The voice-acting is amazing, this is totally Castle of Shikigami 2 level.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Kandrick said:
At last! Expecting Virtua Tennis 4 to arrive later today so gonna get some time in with Trouble Witches before that.
Loving this game! Not much else to say after only one session, but I got a Touhou-reference achievement already so that's awesome.
I was about to rage at two things, but they resolved themselves quickly. The default button mapping is a bit stupid for high-level play (you can't keep dropping the shooting button to activate the magic circle like ALL THE TIME), but you can re-map. Also, that fish boss is a motherfucker...but you can almost take him out completely with a single "F.Bomb" magic card, even on hard. Phew! That guy had me worried there.
I was about to rage at two things, but they resolved themselves quickly. The default button mapping is a bit stupid for high-level play (you can't keep dropping the shooting button to activate the magic circle like ALL THE TIME), but you can re-map. Also, that fish boss is a motherfucker...but you can almost take him out completely with a single "F.Bomb" magic card, even on hard. Phew! That guy had me worried there.
Yes! I unlocked a girl called Conan and she shouted "LET US SING HYMNS TOGETHER!" at me when I did, and it was awesome.PepsimanVsJoe said:
Well, finally able to buy the full game, I can note a few random things I really appreciate!
One, You get the full remixed game (new character art, title selection and title screens, and all), as well as the "Original", which seems to be the arcade version, with very different dressing, and runs at a lower resolution, and in 4:3, with an option for different wallpapers. I really wish EVERY HD collection did this. It's almost like getting 2 games in one, or almost 3, since you have Old Arcade, New Arcade, and Story mode, which really changes the pacing and feel of things, with all the additional character convos and artwork.
I haven't tried the boss rush, but I enjoy the 3 min challenge mode. It's nice to have something that's pick-up-and-play in a game like this. Sometimes it's nice to have some shooting action, without having to commit to 6 stages of advancement.
The game also runs great, too, (though I experiences some small jitters in score attack after getting 5000 metals, and earning the HUGE coins) and I have to say I rather like the stage design. They have fun little details (The flying whales in the snow zone are O.O), and work well enough for what they are. The music is rather hummable at times, as well. Kinda reminds me of old Taito arcade games in some places, mixed with a bit of Disgaea-like "naughtiness".
5 initial arcade characters, 2 hidden characters for clearing the game (thanks fun unlocks, I miss them in the modern gaming landscape, haha), and 1 new character exclusive to consoles. Feels more like a retail release than an XBLA game. And a DLC character coming May 11th.., will be interesting to see how much they charge for it.
Oh, and I played 2 player Offline Co-Op. It was pretty fun trying to coordinate magic barrier use with 2 people. And made it easier to see some of the differences in abilities between the girls + familiars.
Oh, and lastly, great how like... everything in the game has leaderboards. Per difficulty, per character, per original or arranged... only thing it doesn't seem to have is so-op leaderboards, which is a bit annoying, but a commom faux pas for modern games...
One, You get the full remixed game (new character art, title selection and title screens, and all), as well as the "Original", which seems to be the arcade version, with very different dressing, and runs at a lower resolution, and in 4:3, with an option for different wallpapers. I really wish EVERY HD collection did this. It's almost like getting 2 games in one, or almost 3, since you have Old Arcade, New Arcade, and Story mode, which really changes the pacing and feel of things, with all the additional character convos and artwork.
I haven't tried the boss rush, but I enjoy the 3 min challenge mode. It's nice to have something that's pick-up-and-play in a game like this. Sometimes it's nice to have some shooting action, without having to commit to 6 stages of advancement.
The game also runs great, too, (though I experiences some small jitters in score attack after getting 5000 metals, and earning the HUGE coins) and I have to say I rather like the stage design. They have fun little details (The flying whales in the snow zone are O.O), and work well enough for what they are. The music is rather hummable at times, as well. Kinda reminds me of old Taito arcade games in some places, mixed with a bit of Disgaea-like "naughtiness".
5 initial arcade characters, 2 hidden characters for clearing the game (thanks fun unlocks, I miss them in the modern gaming landscape, haha), and 1 new character exclusive to consoles. Feels more like a retail release than an XBLA game. And a DLC character coming May 11th.., will be interesting to see how much they charge for it.
Oh, and I played 2 player Offline Co-Op. It was pretty fun trying to coordinate magic barrier use with 2 people. And made it easier to see some of the differences in abilities between the girls + familiars.
Oh, and lastly, great how like... everything in the game has leaderboards. Per difficulty, per character, per original or arranged... only thing it doesn't seem to have is so-op leaderboards, which is a bit annoying, but a commom faux pas for modern games...
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Wow, this is fantastic! Arcade mode on normal difficulty is rock hard, but it's nice to have some easier options in Story Mode, which is also enjoyable. So many options! I would definitely have been happy had I bought this as a full price retail release. 800 MS Points is a steal!
Dark Octave
Banned
I'm enjoyig the demo quite a bit. Had an urge to keep going back to it after I tried the other two games that also came out yesterday. Definitley buying today. $10 is a steal. I can realistically see it going for $40 or more, retail.
Would it sell or not, I don't know, but I feel that it's worth at least that much.
Would it sell or not, I don't know, but I feel that it's worth at least that much.
From The Dust
Banned
Lesiroth said:
you never heard of "cute 'em ups"? I'm not surprised as it's a very niche genre
this game is moe to the max though
cj_iwakura
Member
Why does PSN get the crappy shmups? 
To Far Away Times
Member
This is a kick ass game, everyone should play it.
Fortinbras
Member
How do I unlock the Mindblowing Mode? I've seen the option for the online mode but not for Single Play or Story Mode like the achievement suggests.
To Far Away Times
Member
This game is fairly easy through 3 stages , then the stage 4 takes most of my lives and the boss finishes the job. >_>
At first it can be a bit wtf, but if the survival-platforming core clicks for you, it's great fun (especially Score Attack).Nekobo said:
Trouble Witches looks gorgeous and I really like to play it, but imo the bullet hell here is not even remotely as neat as it is in Deathsmiles... I dunno, here and there seems to me a bit random and not perfectly synced with the shooting & barrier mechanics, to the point that sometimes I find myself clueless and with no way out of enemy fire.
englishbob
Neo Member
The bastard child of DeathSmiles, Powerstone and Fogotten Worlds.
Quite possibly the hardest "easy" mode ever?
Quite possibly the hardest "easy" mode ever?
To Far Away Times
Member
Trouble Witches is fun in its own right, even if Deathsmiles is a bit better.Galdelico said:
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
englishbob said:
I'd say so. Really ramps up in difficulty towards the end and forces you to become familiar and very good with the card and bullet shield mechanics.
Story mode is where I'm spending most of my time. Relaxing difficulty and some nice, fully voiced stories. Has taken me around 45 minutes to finish each of the two I've attempted so far, so expecting to be kept busy with the game for quite some time!
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Nekobo said:
The demo for Nin2 Jump kinda sucked... I wanted to believe it'd be decent because it's a Cave game, but I dunno... the platforming felt so unsatisfying and the pacing was a bit too slow.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Excellent fun, though I'm reminded again how my ability to play shmups nosedives when using a controller. For some reason I'm finding it harder than Deathsmiles, which I did actually manage to 1cc. Probably need to spend more time with it.
Fortinbras
Member
Got my first 1cc in a shmup yesterday. I think it's a lot easier than Deathsmiles.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
Wow, this is a lot of fun.
I'd like to pick it up down the road. Definitely check it out if you haven't already.
I'd like to pick it up down the road. Definitely check it out if you haven't already.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
bon said:
May be the anime character designs. I know a lot of shmup fans in general won't touch anything anime related (see: Deathsmiles etc). Which is fair enough, as long as people not buying this aren't the same people bitching about Cave releases being region locked and how they want to support shmups.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Hmm... I'll probably pick this up after I beat DeathSmiles and Bullet Soul.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
jooey said:
One of the wider conundrums of fandom.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Is there a summary of the differences between the characters anywhere? I just tried using Lyla for the first time but her MP decreases hopelessly quickly.
No, not at all, it's actually very productive. There's an ongoing problem with shmups being too cross-pollinated with hentai and other "seedier" aspects of japanese geek culture. Too many shmups try to sell based on the fact that they have kids in bikinis in them, not that they're good, and the very worst part is that it's working! Shmups with half-naked kids in them do seem to sell better, which is why, I assume, Cave felt forced to join the party.jooey said:
That's why DeathSmiles gets an extra heaping of hate, it was Cave's first real, 100% "moe" game. In other words, they sold out with it, according to some. (And that was after Dai-ou-jou already pushed it with putting "dolls" in our Dodonpachi.) I'm not of this opinion myself and I love Trouble Witches, but shmup fans not wanting the devs to marry their favorite genre to perverted hentai is not counter-productive if you ask me. Just give us back our spaceships and alien armadas, and skip the little kids in bikinis.
Yeah, but the bars there don't really make a lot of sense.Jucksalbe said:
I'd say that right now, the "best character" is decided by the leaderboard. People are really loving that Valorie and I can see why - her very concentrated shots put you in perfect control of when to take enemies out for max score.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Yeah but Mushi Futari is one of the best shooters of all time.
To Far Away Times
Member
Yay, just 1CC'd the game on heart pounding difficulty!! Fucking hard game oh my god. So satisfying to finally kill that last boss after all my failed attempts.
(I know there are harder shmups, but this is about as challenging a game that I can complete.)
FYI I found out one of the achievements involves bugging (clicking on) the shop girl enough that she kicks you out of the shop 13 times LOL
I have only played through once with Sakurako, some of the dialogue is super cheesy and the voice actor for Sakurako is clearly non-fluent English speaker so give them a break for trying hard to speak in English I did have fun, it's not really hard in Story Mode...there are only 2 people on my leaderboards even though I have a bunch of shmup fans on my friends list...like someone said, shmup fans being so picky about games is probably the #1 problem with that genre right now.
I have only played through once with Sakurako, some of the dialogue is super cheesy and the voice actor for Sakurako is clearly non-fluent English speaker so give them a break for trying hard to speak in English
I did have fun, it's not really hard in Story Mode...there are only 2 people on my leaderboards even though I have a bunch of shmup fans on my friends list...like someone said, shmup fans being so picky about games is probably the #1 problem with that genre right now.