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True Blood - Season 2 (starts June 14th)

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Yes it gets alot better but you didn't like one thing in the pilot? But yeah it gets alot better.

Anyway, I'm still waiting on the new episode so I'm kind of avoiding this topic. HURRY UP! I want to see
 
MMaRsu said:
Yes it gets alot better but you didn't like one thing in the pilot? But yeah it gets alot better.

Anyway, I'm still waiting on the new episode so I'm kind of avoiding this topic. HURRY UP! I want to see
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It just wasn't very interesting.

I was a huge fan of Six Feet Under but I didn't like the performances or the cast in this, with the exception of Sookie.
 
The way Daphne explained it, Maryanne has to put effort into taking control of people. If she didn't know that Andy was there, she probably can't control his mind.

-COOLIO- said:
we get this strangely out of place country folk music for the credits. this show is crazy
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I liked that song, anyone knows what it's called? Also, how did Godric get out?

Edit: Also, in this episode we learned that Hoyt is a 28 year-old virgin who's dating a 17 year-old. That's like five gaf threads rolled into one.
 
permutated said:
I watched the pilot to this but wasn't intrigued, does it get alot better?
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Hugely.






kame-sennin said:
I liked that song, anyone knows what it's called? Also, how did Godric get out?
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I don't know the name of it, but holy crap it's got some mean bass. Actually, that's one of the things I've noticed about this show. The audio production seems to be well above any TV show in recent memory.


As for Godric, I'm going to guess Eric let him out. Eric seemingly doesn't give much of a shit about Sookie (at least in his current state) ... Godric however seems to be intrigued given what Sookie was yelling earlier.



I'm hoping they give some sort of explanation how the fuck Godric could have been taken captive.
 
permutated said:
It just wasn't very interesting.

I was a huge fan of Six Feet Under but I didn't like the performances or the cast in this, with the exception of Sookie.
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Well I liked the.. story angle, you know where they could go from there. And in my opinion it only got better. I was pretty LTTP on this show as well but I'm really glad I gave this a chance.

But you know, it might not be for you. I'd say give it one or two more episodes, if you're not really interested in it then, then you'll know :).
 
MMaRsu said:
Well I liked the.. story angle, you know where they could go from there. And in my opinion it only got better. I was pretty LTTP on this show as well but I'm really glad I gave this a chance.

But you know, it might not be for you. I'd say give it one or two more episodes, if you're not really interested in it then, then you'll know :).
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Cool, thanks :)
 
The pilot to Six Feet Under is pretty off putting too. Hell, pretty much all of Season 4 is (or maybe it's three, I can't remember anymore) off putting. At this point in their runs I had far more episodes I had problems with in 6FU then I do of True Blood.
 
OmniGamer said:
I'm curious how Bill escaped his Maker in the first place...last we saw of them together, she took him to his home to see his family and made him realize he could never see them again.
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aku:jiki said:
Escaped? I don't see any other vampires living as slaves under their makers in the show... Jessica's just a trainee right now.
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OmniGamer said:
To me, from what we saw of their origin, I don't think Bill was or is too fond of her given the way she turned him and took away everything from his life as he knew it. She seemed pretty preditory and possessive of him and not the type to willingly just let him go about his business. Whether he "escaped" or not, i'm still curious how they parted ways and under what circumstances.
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Tonight's episode pretty much explained what I wanted to know regarding Bill and Lorena's eventual split from each other and confirmed my assessment of their relationship.

Anywho, damn I love this show, everything is really coming to a head now. Seeing Godric show up at the end of the episode makes waiting for next week suck even more than usual. Maryann has gone from annoyingly mysterious to downright formidable and scary. Wonder who or what she can be afraid of or otherwise vulnerable to. I'm guessing
werewolves or some other "supernaturals" we haven't heard about yet

Ouch@Andy's Arm

Nice to see some of Lafayette's patented "pizazz" return to form ;-)
 
kame-sennin said:
The way Daphne explained it, Maryanne has to put effort into taking control of people. If she didn't know that Andy was there, she probably can't control his mind.



I liked that song, anyone knows what it's called? Also, how did Godric get out?

Edit: Also, in this episode we learned that Hoyt is a 28 year-old virgin who's dating a 17 year-old. That's like five gaf threads rolled into one.
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virgin? he said her first time, not his.
 
-COOLIO- said:
really?

well hoyt is just old school like that.
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Yeah, he said something like, "Well, I've never done it. With a woman, that is." and Jessica said, "Well, what have you done it with then?" and he said, "Just myself." :lol
 
That fight scene with Jason and the old dude was awful. And really, Daphne deserved to die. Not for trying to kill Sam, but for yet another swim where it looked like she'd get naked, only to leave her bra on. DIE IN A FIRE

I like the Andy as a troll or ogre angle. I'm sure someone will post a book spoiler or something and ruin it.
 
squicken said:
I like the Andy as a troll or ogre angle. I'm sure someone will post a book spoiler or something and ruin it.
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But aren't Andy and Terry brothers? That would make Terry whatever Andy is and Terry was just as screwed up at the orgy as everyone else.
 
squicken said:
That fight scene with Jason and the old dude was awful. And really, Daphne deserved to die. Not for trying to kill Sam, but for yet another swim where it looked like she'd get naked, only to leave her bra on. DIE IN A FIRE

I like the Andy as a troll or ogre angle. I'm sure someone will post a book spoiler or something and ruin it.
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what would being a troll/ogre entail? super strength?
 
Something I have to mention here. The flashback scenarios in this show is really very well done. The look and cinematography feels ALOT different than the actual show. Can anyone confirm if they are using the red lens camera for this given effect? It is truly unique.

Also the jessica story arc is pretty good. I like the subtlety and innocense in it.
 
teiresias said:
But aren't Andy and Terry brothers? That would make Terry whatever Andy is and Terry was just as screwed up at the orgy as everyone else.
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Cousins I think but that doesnt really change your point.
 
Revelations said:
Something I have to mention here. The flashback scenarios in this show is really very well done. The look and cinematography feels ALOT different than the actual show. Can anyone confirm if they are using the red lens camera for this given effect? It is truly unique.

Also the jessica story arc is pretty good. I like the subtlety and innocense in it.
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I have no idea what type of camera it is, but it does appear to have some sort of sepia tone thing going on.

Could be a lens, could be toning, could be messing with the color timing, could be digital filter?
 
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No dude. This seems much deeper than that. I mean seriously look how he is obsessed. Even Bill mentioned how overly infatuated Eric is.
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Yes dude. Bill's full of shit; you can't take his view as it is atypical. He loathes Lorena for what he became, so the reaction makes sense ... but his flashback today shows the truth. He spent decades going along with her will, in an sick attempt to appease her, hoping he could love her. That turned to hate, both for her and for himself since he couldn't handle killing 'innocents'.


The dynamic is heavily borrowed from Anne Rice's writings. Lestat and Louis where pretty gay for each other (especially Lestat for Louis). However, Louis couldn't handle killing innocents, and eventually broke out of the maker/make-ee dynamic.

Sound familiar?



giga said:
Oh man, Jason better not be dead.
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They purposely messed with the audio and blurred the gun a bit. From what I could see though, the gun looked pretty squarish. I'm guessing it's a taser.
 
Cornballer said:
This season is great - so painful to wait every week for the new episode after marathoning S1.
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Yeah same here.

Next episode seems like a season finale but we've still got a few more left after that. It's funny how when everyone involved in Jessicas life is in deep shit she's been busy trying to fuck.
 
Man, this episode was fucking nuts. And the preview they showed during Hung, was even crazier. I haven't read any spoilers or anything, but the shit is about to hit the fan.

Edit: As far as Jessica goes, I think he's going to lose control without Bill around. It just seems like it's being setup for her to go berserk. There's no telling what making love will do to her since it's her first time and she's still so young as a vampire.
 
Onix said:
Yes dude. Bill's full of shit; you can't take his view as it is atypical. He loathes Lorena for what he became, so the reaction makes sense ... but his flashback today shows the truth. He spent decades going along with her will, in an sick attempt to appease her, hoping he could love her. That turned to hate, both for her and for himself since he couldn't handle killing 'innocents'.


The dynamic is heavily borrowed from Anne Rice's writings. Lestat and Louis where pretty gay for each other (especially Lestat for Louis). However, Louis couldn't handle killing innocents, and eventually broke out of the maker/make-ee dynamic.

Sound familiar?





They purposely messed with the audio and blurred the gun a bit. From what I could see though, the gun looked pretty squarish. I'm guessing it's a taser.
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Spoiler about Jason (but it was on the preview so it's not that big of a spoiler):
It was one of those paint guns. In the preview after the show they show Sarah accusing Jason of purposefully coming to break up her marriage with Steve
 
Onix said:
Yes dude. Bill's full of shit; you can't take his view as it is atypical. He loathes Lorena for what he became, so the reaction makes sense ... but his flashback today shows the truth. He spent decades going along with her will, in an sick attempt to appease her, hoping he could love her. That turned to hate, both for her and for himself since he couldn't handle killing 'innocents'.


The dynamic is heavily borrowed from Anne Rice's writings. Lestat and Louis where pretty gay for each other (especially Lestat for Louis). However, Louis couldn't handle killing innocents, and eventually broke out of the maker/make-ee dynamic.

Sound familiar?
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I'm sorry I just cant see it in this show. I cant see that kind of strong maker to makee bond between other vampires. Just look at Jessica and Bill. There is no legiance there. No love. It is not something that is automatically shared between a vampire and his lessers in this take. There is something much more and deeper to that Godric and Eric thing that you can tell they will reveal or hope to reveal soon.
 
quinntendopower said:
jessica! D. Woll is going to end up being FAMOUS with those looks.

where are my fucking screencaps of her? WHERE?!
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:lol Every scene in this episode made her look positively adorable. When she has her hair down like that its the most beautiful thing. I think it might be because she looks like a got damn porcelain doll.
 
This episode was fucking awesome, not a dull moment. Hard to believe that this season is just past the halfway point, it feels like a finale to me.
 
Revelations said:
I'm sorry I just cant see it in this show. I cant see that strong maker to makee bond between other vampires. Just look at Jessica and Bill. There is no legiance there. No love. It is not something that is automatically shared between a vampire and his lessers in this take. There is something much more and deeper to that Godric and Eric thing that you can tell they will reveal or hope to reveal soon.
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Whether she wants to or not, Jessica is obedient, at least when pushed. Regardless, you're citing Bill again ... nothing about him is normal. His and Jessica's obviously is not the normal dynamic. He didn't want to make her, hell he was forced to ... and she didn't want to be turned (at least not at the time). I think obviously the situation creates the bond.

Again, think back to Lestat and Louis. "I'm going to give you the choice that I never had". While we don't know the background of where Godric came from, the scene in the Eric flashback played out almost exactly like Interview, at least thematically.


I'm not saying the level of their bond is entirely the norm, but it also doesn't seem particularly outlandish for the modern interpretation of Vampire, especially given the circumstances. Eric didn't want to die, and Godric was his savior ... Godric had been watching him for days, and wanted him as his companion. It's hard to ignore the parallels.
 
Revelations said:
I'm sorry I just cant see it in this show. I cant see that kind of strong maker to makee bond between other vampires. Just look at Jessica and Bill. There is no legiance there. No love. It is not something that is automatically shared between a vampire and his lessers in this take. There is something much more and deeper to that Godric and Eric thing that you can tell they will reveal or hope to reveal soon.
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This has already been covered, but I'd like to remind you of Pam's devotion to Eric. Even though she comes off as a bit more stoic, she's clearly obedient and deeply loyal to him and tells Bill as much during Jessica's burial. Bill is just... a weird case, it seems.


Book spoiler/musings:

I'm not sure I like how they handled Lorena's return, if only because of what it means for Eric's future in the show. He and Lafayatte are my two favorite characters, and it's kind of disappointing to see that Eric, who was always cunning but never underhanded, has been set up as something of a backstabber and maybe even an antagonist for Bill, as opposed to Bill having willingly dumped Sookie for Lorena (not to mention being sent by the Queen to seduce Sookie to begin with).

So I'm guessing Eric won't eventually become Sookie's main (if shaky) vampire interest in the series, and she won't come to utterly hate Bill? Shame. At least we've gotten Lafayatte and Jessica out of the alterations.
 
Good episode. I have to say I am quite disappointed in Hugo. Sookie has a thing for a discovering the bad guy a little too late. It was nice to see Barry again and I really liked the flashbacks. The Jessica parts were also very nice. Godric making an appearance right in the end was the cherry on top. He is just beautiful. It's no wonder Eric is obsessed with him.
 
_Isaac said:
Good episode. I have to say I am quite disappointed in Hugo. Sookie has a thing for a discovering the bad guy a little too late.
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Yeah, but it makes sense. She normally tries to tune people out if she doesn't think they're a threat.
 
Oh, and Sookie's blunt "Hugo, shut the fuck up" line was probably my favorite this episode, putting aside Lafayatte's usual awesomeness and return to pizazz.

(It's also amazing how Jessica manages to become more gorgeous in every scene she's in. Go go Hoyt! :D )
 
Another great episode. Jason's smile the morning after with Sarah was fucking gold. Jessica was just so hot this episode. Glad Daphne bought it and I hope Eric goes fucking medieval on all those religious nutbars.
 
polyh3dron said:
I can see Jessica turning Hoyt into a vamp.
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I can see Hoyt dieing by either jessicas hand or someone elses. I dont see that carrying on into the next season. The cast is still too top heavy and they need to trim the fat before next season introduces new cast members for the next story arc.
 
Revelations said:
I can see Hoyt dieing by either jessicas hand or someone elses. I dont see that carrying on into the next season. The cast is still too top heavy and they need to trim the fat before next season introduces new cast members for the next story arc.
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no way, if i had to guess, i'd say the hoyt-jessica relationship is very popular.
 
Revelations said:
I'm sorry I just cant see it in this show. I cant see that kind of strong maker to makee bond between other vampires. Just look at Jessica and Bill. There is no legiance there. No love. It is not something that is automatically shared between a vampire and his lessers in this take. There is something much more and deeper to that Godric and Eric thing that you can tell they will reveal or hope to reveal soon.
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But Bill's relationship with Jessica is very far from typical. Most makers would feel affection toward their new vampire who they presumably turned by choice. Bill resents Jessica because she was his punishment forced on him and he openly treats her as such the majority of the time. So there is no emotional bond there, but even so when the incident happened at her family's house she still had to obey him. There is still a bond, even though they don't really care for each other very much. So if you assume that most relationships between maker/makee also have an emotional element, it's got to be strong.

But yeah, Eric and Godric so obviously got it on and maybe Eric even thinks he was in love with him. His bond with Godric definitely seems to be more emotional than his bond with Pam, for example, though she is still very obedient and he clearly depends on her.

Minor book spoiler about maker/makee dynamics for Eric and Bill:
It's interesting the way Ball's going with things because in the books Eric openly says that Bill is weird for how strong the emotional bond was between he and his maker and that while all vampires are obedient to the one who sired them and that all vampires care for their makers that Lorena and Bill's behavior was so obsessive at one time that it was kind of like a vampire version of incest. Kind of seems like Ball's pushing that behavior over onto Eric and Godric so that Bill can stay more of a pure good guy.
 
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