Right ..
The same site was right about DriveClub before anybody else. Can you provide atleast something similar? No, which is why you are taking the ban bet ..
We have yet to see anything credible from this guy.
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TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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The same site was right about DriveClub before anybody else. Can you provide atleast something similar? No, which is why you are taking the ban bet ..
Felix Lighter
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I don't see why. The majority of games are multiplatform. Why would you rejoice over the crippling of the majority of games just because it makes first-party games look better?
both will reduce in die size at the same rate. The one has its major cost factor as the apu. the 4 has its major cost factor as the gddr5 .
Sony has the problem of having gone with brand new density's for the ram. They aren't being made in the same quanities as other gddr5. Then comes the issue that as it ramps more and more graphics cards will use it too.
THe xbox one is using ram built for a declining pc market which means they get to buy up the over stock.
Just look at how small the chips in the xbox 360 and the ps3 have become.
Zombie James
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If these rumours are true.
it wasnt supposed to be like that though. ps3 came a year later and was supposed to be much more powerful and make 360 the xbox 1.5.
so we just have to wait and see
Ugh... no?
Trivial amounts. Not like you're describing. Back in the day Intel would bin Extreme Editions all the way down to Pentium and then Celeron. You could get an extreme edition CPU that was sold as a celeron and run it at twice the clock frequency. Same chip. 3.4 versus 3.5...doesn't matter. Marketing.
My original response to you was that this doesn't happen anymore with Intel because they have no competition. If they had competition they would sell CPUs at stock frequencies at 4.5 GHz and ones that fail that would be sold at 4.2 GHz, etc.
Beerman462
Member
If the assets are there, then there is no excuse to not provide a superior version on superior hardware. It's easier to down grade to inferior hardware as long as development is equal.
BruiserBear
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Why bother? People didn't stop buying the 360 when they were failing left and right.
Neither has Sony
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Having read through this thread, both.
E3 has always been the earliest prices have been revealed. I still think they will wait until July/August to give a price. Trying to see who blinks first
Zok310
Banned
Another batch of inferiority rumors that will most likely turn out to be true, just like the inferior spec rumors that turned out to be true.
Damn, MS took the worst of what happned to Sony with the PS3 and decided they could do a worse job than Sony did and do it better. The only thing missing now is "$599".
This box gets worse by the day.
SMH.
Damn, MS took the worst of what happned to Sony with the PS3 and decided they could do a worse job than Sony did and do it better. The only thing missing now is "$599".
This box gets worse by the day.
SMH.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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All I know is that when it comes to hardware development, not everyone will know everything. Not everyone will know what's been fixed and what's not. Regardless, I believe thuway, Matt and Proelite are credible, as much I've read their posts.
E3 is going to be wonderful!
E3 is going to be wonderful!
I'm sure MS would love another billion dollar hit on warranties/repairs.
vpance
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They wont do that to themselves. They still need to sell the games to the masses. Hamstringing their games to 800 gflops on all platforms wont look so great in comparison to this gen.
EVERYTHING
Across the board reduction by 25%.
IHaveCandy
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I think if MS doesn't have playable Xbox One units at E3, then we have a reason to worry. If they are using PCs this late, then they might be downclocking and don't want E3 demos to be hit by it.
If there's a production chip problem, that's going to affect input cost. Microsoft is calculating what price they can set (i.e. contracting different manufacturers) and see who can earn the best production yield.
Things are much different this time though. The PS3 had a overly complex architecture especially compared to the 360. So while the PS3 is more powerful the ease of development gave the edge to the 360. The PS4 is said to be easier to develop for then the Xbone and more powerful to boot. But anything can happen.
Its not like building a game to take advantage of the PS4 would make it unplayable on the Xbox One.
It just occurred to me that this is actually possible. They will probably have playable games but they will run running off dev kits or something equivalent.
Well, I mean, no point in being sceptical if you are indeed super confident in your source.
Should add "3x the performance of Wii U" to the title. This works both ways.
In all seriousness: There's surely an advantage to Microsoft's strategy with this hardware - they know what they're doing, they don't just screw things up. It's got to be cheaper, otherwise how are they including a Kinect in every box for (likely) the same price as the PS4?
The new Kinect contains it's own custom processor - unlike the original (was removed in the months leading up to launch and proccessing of Kinect 1.0 was moved to the 360 console itself)...this processor is pretty important apparently.
it might also lead to exclusive third parties. IF their vision can't be met with lower specs.
Militant17
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is that water boiling?Well this should solve the problem
Someone should change that to xbox one is the next water heater.
Seriously though If this turns out to be true ill be waiting a while until I purchase one. 4 RRoD's in the first 18 months with the 360 already has me sceptical of anything MS puts out.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Yeah, by now Microsoft's biggest concern should be avoiding another red ring of death.
CassidyIzABeast
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I hope you're right but after all this bad news I'm just expecting the worst.
Angelus Errare
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I bet a steam game ($15 and under) to one person that the Xbox One's clock rates match the leaked documentation, no downclocks.
ProfessorMoran
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Multiplatform games won't be crippled, either the baseline will just be lower if the xbone ends up getting downgraded or you will see more things getting cut in multiplatform games on the xbone, your great looking games will still look great on the PS4 (although first-party games will likely have a bigger performance advantage), shitty-looking crap will still happen regardless of where the baseline is.
Beerman462
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Zune, Surface, Windows Vista/8
I'm not really sure what your point is you seem to agree but disagree. Haha we're getting off topic though so it's whatever really. My point was just addressing those that found the situation hard to believe.
Okay I just caught your second part. Sure. I didn't realize that was what you were getting at.
Radical_Ed
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I've always wanted an Original Xbox. You know, a system that has 100% of multiplatforms better and some games that uses its enormous potential. With an architecture as standard as the one of the PS4 shouldn't be a problem. I'm more concerned about the heat a 2TF system can produce.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Me? Me. Buy me a PSN card.
They used Mac Pros at E3 2005. I realize the RROD happened though...so maybe it was a bad sign. I don't think Sony had real PS3s at E3 2006...and the PS3 turned out okay.
Exactly 1.20TF right?
SenjutsuSage
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Oh, I am, which is why I went so far as to throw myself to the wolves. I'm a good sport about these things. If what I was told is inaccurate, I'll accept the consequences. Simple as that.
I'm not skeptical about whether or not that site is right or not. I feel pretty strongly that they are wrong. I'm skeptical about some random site just, out of nowhere, conveniently reporting this right around the same time that it's being mentioned in a GAF thread. I mean, that doesn't make anybody else suspicious as to whether that site really heard something, or whether they're just parroting what they saw on GAF, as other sites have been known to do sometimes inaccurately?
100m copies of an os in 6 months is bad ? I'm sure Apple would love to sell that amount of macs in 6 months.
Anyway you act like sony hasn't had its fair share of mishaps which is basicly the majority of their products in the last decade.
Yeah, I'm a big Nintendo fan too. Not sure how that's good news for Xbox One though.
The drama ....
GribbleGrunger
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